Ashlii Babbitt Thread

[bripat9643]

Actually you fuckers make that claim every time a cop shoots an unarmed person

Who is "you guys?" I certainly don't.

 

[Rigby5]

Actually you fuckers make that claim every time a cop shoots an unarmed person

No, I want police disarmed except for a few special teams.
Police have no more authority to shoot than anyone does, and never can have any more authority.

 

[Faun]

So, they could have just randomly shot any of the "mob" and it would have been fine?

No. No one else breached their barricade. Had she obey police orders to get back, like all the others there, she wouldn't have been shot.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

No. No one else breached their barricade. Had she obey police orders to get back, like all the others there, she wouldn't have been shot.

They question is not what caused her to be shot. The question is whether it was justified.

 

[Faun]

What about her climbing through the window was a direct threat to the officer or anyone around him?

It was breaching their barricade.

 

[Rigby5]

Bullshit. YOU fuckers claim it was MURDER anytime a cop shoots an "unarmed" person who fights with police.

And it is.
Police do NOT have authority to shoot someone simply for resisting, trying to flee, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

It was breaching their barricade.

Breaching a barricade that the cops in front had already decided was no longer needed and to be abandoned, is not at all a deadly threat.
Breaching a barricade would only be a deadly threat if there was something deadly she could have reached on the other side of the barricade, which there wasn't.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

And it is.
Police do NOT have authority to shoot someone simply for resisting, trying to flee, etc.

I agree. Trying to grab their weapon does give them authority, just like it would for you and I.

I agree that police and civilians have the same rights, duties, and authority on use of deadly force.

 

[Rigby5]

Supposedly. Witnesses dispute that.

But even so...that would be no different than Ashes Targetpractice advancing through that blown out window in that barricade.

Somehow the Magarats don't see that

What deadly threat did Ashlii pose by entering the window?

 

[Faun]

There is no way an unarmed woman was "threatening" the safety of anyone.
The fact she was unarmed is not totally enough if she could have done something like unlock a door or something, once inside, so that a mob could enter.
But there was nothing at all like that at risk.
She was totally alone, and no one else could have followed since only a small person could even fit through the window.
So it was totally and completely illegal to shoot her.
If you can legally shoot her, then you can legally shoot and kill every single armed cop in the world.

Not true. The threat was the violent mob. They had to be kept out of the House chamber until all members of Congress & staff could be safely evacuated. That violent mob was trying to break in. Ashes Targetpractice happened to be the first to get through, so she was shot. That kept the rest of that violent mob at bay.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

She was totally alone, and no one else could have followed since only a small person could even fit through the window

She was not alone Strike One

There was a mob of attackers behind her who would have followed her through Strike Two

The officer did not have time to get the chest measurements of the rest of the attackers she was leading STRIKE THREE you are out.

So the Officer shot the dumb Q-Anon bitch to save lives that he was authorized to use deadly force to protect from idiots who would vote for Trump.

 

[Rigby5]

She was breaching a barricade he was defending.

Fuck off Russian troll

And since when is deadly force justified for defending a barricade?

If police can deny permits for demonstration, erect barricades whenever a demonstration starts anyway, then you are saying police can prevent any demonstration and kill all opposition, like they would do in a total dictatorship.
That is illegal and insane.

 

[Lesh]

They question is not what caused her to be shot. The question is whether it was justified.

Her actions caused her to get shot and it was completely justified

And has been ruled so.

 

[Faun]

That wasn't the question, nimrod. You claimed they have the authority to shoot someone simply for failing to comply.

LOL

Fucking moron, that is the answer to your question.

If someone fails to comply to a lawful police order but they're not threatening anyone's safety, them the police cannot legally shoot them; however, if someone fails to comply to a lawful police order but they are threatening someone's safety, them the police can legally shoot them. That was the case with Benedict Babbitt.

 

[Faun]

Wrong.
The cop was behind another barricade off the main corridor, he had never been attacked by anyone, and Ashlii was moving directly through the window, which is totally perpendicular to where Michael Byrd was barricaded in a side conference room.
Byrd shot Ashlii from the side, not head on.

Retard, I wasn't talking about Byrd or Ashes. Can you at least fake understanding what other people are talking about?

 

[Lastamender]

Her actions caused her to get shot and it was completely justified

And has been ruled so.

You are saying the murder was covered up to your satisfaction. Did you know the guy was never interviewed by authorities? He refused to talk to them. How can you say it was ruled that way without the killers input?

 

[Faun]

They question is not what caused her to be shot. The question is whether it was justified.

It was.

 

[bripat9643]

Not true. The threat was the violent mob. They had to be kept out of the House chamber until all members of Congress & staff could be safely evacuated. That violent mob was trying to break in. Ashes Targetpractice happened to be the first to get through, so she was shot. That kept the rest of that violent mob at bay.

The police do not get to shoot person A because that will prevent person B from harming someone.

You have a servile understanding of the law.

 

[Lastamender]

Retard, I wasn't talking about Byrd or Ashes. Can you at least fake understanding what other people are talking about?

Your hate for this country grows everyday.

 

[Faun]

And it is.
Police do NOT have authority to shoot someone simply for resisting, trying to flee, etc.

If they are committing a felony and threatening public safety, they absolutely do. As always, you have no idea what you're talking about.