As the collapse continues....

One person, empowered by his enablers and sycophants, has managed to (a) throw the world economy into chaos with his bizarre, wildly erratic tariff gambit, (b) throw global geopolitics into a tailspin with his soft-handed approach to an aggressive Russian tyrant and pugilistic behaviors towards America's former friends, and (c) put America itself on the edge of social collapse by openly taking sides in its most sensitive sociological/cultural moment in decades, and (d) inspire one of the great religions of the world to sell its soul to a person who is essentially the opposite of the deity it claims to follow.

One person has created a chaos most of us have never seen, because he has been allowed to.

That's because this has never been about that one person. This is about a country that is so sick and manipulable that it has allowed its priorities to become entirely perverted. Bad enough that this would happen to ANY country. But the most important, dynamic country in the world? It's still a little difficult to digest.

As this collapse continues, does anyone have any guesses as to what this country looks like in 20 years?

Chaos Theory Meets Trump: Why America’s Institutions and Psyche Are Under Siege
Just curious, why is this the "most sensitive sociological/cultural moment in decades?"
 
One person, empowered by his enablers and sycophants, has managed to (a) throw the world economy into chaos with his bizarre, wildly erratic tariff gambit, (b) throw global geopolitics into a tailspin with his soft-handed approach to an aggressive Russian tyrant and pugilistic behaviors towards America's former friends, and (c) put America itself on the edge of social collapse by openly taking sides in its most sensitive sociological/cultural moment in decades, and (d) inspire one of the great religions of the world to sell its soul to a person who is essentially the opposite of the deity it claims to follow.

One person has created a chaos most of us have never seen, because he has been allowed to.

That's because this has never been about that one person. This is about a country that is so sick and manipulable that it has allowed its priorities to become entirely perverted. Bad enough that this would happen to ANY country. But the most important, dynamic country in the world? It's still a little difficult to digest.

As this collapse continues, does anyone have any guesses as to what this country looks like in 20 years?

Chaos Theory Meets Trump: Why America’s Institutions and Psyche Are Under Siege
Uhm … bullshit.
 
Real historians wait until the history happens before writing about it.

? It did happen. These are perceptions as of the date of the survey.

Historian's rankings do change over time as longer term events shake out...but not from worst to best.
 
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Was it? Don't you think people will go back to coming here illegally if the next prez puts an end to trump's illegal treatment of immigrants?
Have you stopped beating your dog yet?
 
Was it? Don't you think people will go back to coming here illegally if the next prez puts an end to trump's illegal treatment of immigrants?
The next POTUS will be MAGA, for 2 terms. Then the next POTUS will be MAGA for 2 terms. Then the next POTUS will be MAGA for 2 terms. Then the next POTUS will be MAGA for 2 terms. Tell your beloved ILLEGAL immigrants that ILLEGAL immigration is finished. They can either apply legally, or go to Canada. And with the way Canada is going, they might be better off where they are.
 
Tariffs are bringing in 1 trillion a month enough to eliminate the deficit in 2 years.

You sound senile when your repeat counterfactual nonsense like this after I've already corrected you on it.


When you claim 1 trillion dollars a month you show that you have ZERO familiarity of the Federal budget and economy at large.

1 trillion a month is ~600% our deficit and is about 40% of America's total GDP.

1 trillion dollars is total estimated Trump tariff volume OVER 10 YEARS , which is about 5% of total deficit.
 
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You sound senile when your repeat counterfactual nonsense like this after I've already corrected you on it.


When you claim 1 trillion dollars a month you show that you have ZERO familiarity of the Federal budget and economy at large.

1 trillion a month is ~600% our deficit and is about 40% of America's total GDP.

1 trillion dollars is total estimated Trump tariff volume OVER 10 YEARS.
What do you suppose the odds are that 50% of them know who pays the tariffs?
 
What do you suppose the odds are that 50% of them know who pays the tariffs?

Knowing insinuates a level of conscious consideration of Trump's tariffs that most rightwingers are avoiding for emotional reasons.

It seems like they just threw their collective hands up on this and just settled for in-Trump-we-trust.
 
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Knowing insinuates a level of conscious consideration of Trump's tariffs that most rightwingers are avoiding for emotional reasons.

It seems like they just threw their collective hands up on this and just settled for in-Trump-we-trust.
Yeah. I saw Trump posted a couple of days ago that China and other countries were paying them.

He's still saying it.

I don't know if he's ignorant or lying. In his case, of course, it could be both.
 
Yeah. I saw Trump posted a couple of days ago that China and other countries were paying them.

He's still saying it.

I don't know if he's ignorant or lying. In his case, of course, it could be both.

Come on now, he is not THAT stupid.

He is just a degenerate liar who says whatever he thinks he has to say to make the sale.
 
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While the butterfly effect may apply, things economic don't turn on a dime Mac

One can use any metric....... $$ of eggs, gas, etc ....only to realize said butterfly was a caterpillar for quite some time before getting it's wings......~S~
They didn't "turn on a dime", the real effects are just now starting to be felt months after the start of the insanity.
 
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Let's hope he is not part of Transtifa and hasn't already compiled a long list of churches and elementary schools to gun down. TDS has entered a new phase of mental derangement. And there are millions, like Mac1958, that have TDS really bad. We should keep Mac1958 busy on this forum to save the children of his area.
YOu guys need to put that "transtifa" boogieman back under your bed where it belongs.
 
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