As the collapse continues....

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you happen to be one of the “few good citizens who get picked up by mistake” you might think differently

And it’s amazing how much trust you people have in the government to get it right

That’s “new”

Meh.

 

[YoursTruly]

If you happen to be one of the “few good citizens who get picked up by mistake” you might think differently

And it’s amazing how much trust you people have in the government to get it right

That’s “new”

No, I wouldn't. Because I fully understand that the government is ran by people & bureaucracy. And that mistakes are made. And being a legal, American born citizen, with no criminal record, I wouldn't get all dramatic about it and start screaming "I KNOW MY RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHTS."
I'd stay calm and give them all the information they needed to clear me, so I could be on my way and off their list.
Being a disrespectful asshole to them would only delay my release.

 

[Mac1958]

Mac1958 , if the protestors all just went about their days and nights, not protesting. And simply left the LEO, ICE and the NG do their jobs, (collecting illegals and criminals), who would be affected?

Illegals, criminals and a few legal good citizens that get picked up by mistake. (but are released shortly afterwards once they're found to be decent citizens in good standing with the law)

These protestors are acting on a conspiracy. That the government is trying to take away decent folks rights. They ain't protesting because the government is actually doing it.

If and when the government oversteps it's bounds, then the masses will come out and protest. But until then, these conspiracy protestors just look like idiots. And are giving Trump and his administration more fodder to keep it up.
And so more and more of these conspiracy protestors are going to break the law and end up in jail.

If a person breaks the law, tough shit, they have to pay whatever the appropriate price is. Or, at least that's the way it's supposed to go. But protesting itself is not illegal. So those people have a right to protest, and the law has every right to arrest those who then break a law, if they do. Me, I've never been into that, but I sure as hell believe in freedom of expression for both ends. So I support it.

But as the partial list in the OP points out, this is just one area in which this administration has gone too far. I've had the very same argument with the Left here, where they'd point out that one instance of weaponized Political Correctness was no big deal, and ignored the other zillion and the bigger context.

This administration now has a well-earned image. Across the board. Globally. Obviously a lot of Americans want a heavy handed, authortarian, punitive government. There are plenty of us across the political spectrum who see far too much history to support that.

 

[leftwinger]

If a person breaks the law, tough shit, they have to pay whatever the appropriate price is. Or, at least that's the way it's supposed to go. But protesting itself is not illegal. So those people have a right to protest, and the law has every right to arrest those who then break a law, if they do. Me, I've never been into that, but I sure as hell believe in freedom of expression for both ends. So I support it.

But as the partial list in the OP points out, this is just one area in which this administration has gone too far. I've had the very same argument with the Left here, where they'd point out that one instance of weaponized Political Correctness was no big deal, and ignored the other zillion and the bigger context.

This administration now has a well-earned image. Across the board. Globally. Obviously a lot of Americans want a heavy handed, authortarian, punitive government. There are plenty of us across the political spectrum who see far too much history to support that.

Shocker. Mac&Chees says it's OK to stop traffic. Tear up billion dollar paintings, set fires, break windows. Looting, flashmobs, naked on streets, chained glued to structures etc. Cost taxpayer money to clean it up.

Pound it Cheese.

 

[Independent thinker]

One person, empowered by his enablers and sycophants, has managed to (a) throw the world economy into chaos with his bizarre, wildly erratic tariff gambit, (b) throw global geopolitics into a tailspin with his soft-handed approach to an aggressive Russian tyrant and pugilistic behaviors towards America's former friends, and (c) put America itself on the edge of social collapse by openly taking sides in its most sensitive sociological/cultural moment in decades, and (d) inspire one of the great religions of the world to sell its soul to a person who is essentially the opposite of the deity it claims to follow.

One person has created a chaos most of us have never seen, because he has been allowed to.

That's because this has never been about that one person. This is about a country that is so sick and manipulable that it has allowed its priorities to become entirely perverted. Bad enough that this would happen to ANY country. But the most important, dynamic country in the world? It's still a little difficult to digest.

As this collapse continues, does anyone have any guesses as to what this country looks like in 20 years?

Chaos Theory Meets Trump: Why America’s Institutions and Psyche Are Under Siege

The US economy is growing. Did you forget already? America first. The tariffs are due to unfair trade practices of other countries and they are the ones who are hurting for that, not the US. That could have all been avoided if they had been playing fair in the first place.

 

[Mac1958]

Shocker. Mac&Chees says it's OK to stop traffic. Tear up billion dollar paintings, set fires, break windows. Looting, flashmobs, naked on streets, chained glued to structures etc. Cost taxpayer money to clean it up.

Another example of why I no longer engage with the cult. This is the OPPOSITE of what HE QUOTED me saying. I'm for freedom of expression, from BOTH ends, not lawbreaking.

Alternate realities. Bizarre.

These people are just too goddamn dense.

 

[leftwinger]

Another example of why I no longer engage with the cult. This is the OPPOSITE of what HE QUOTED me saying. I'm for freedom of expression, from BOTH ends, not lawbreaking.

Alternate realities. Bizarre.

These people are just too goddamn dense.

Protesting. Got it. Glug Glug. Lol!

You're OK with naked dining in the Castro. You'll follow them using their chair after you dumb OX.

Naked parades past cholren in attendance. Trannies reading stories spread out on a stool in front of 2nd graders.

Hey, it's a right sayeth Stain, CHEESE.

 

[leftwinger]

Lace up your leather chaps old chap. I am certain you can get to a big No-Kings rally up in SLC eh?

 

[Mashmont]

One person, empowered by his enablers and sycophants, has managed to (a) throw the world economy into chaos with his bizarre, wildly erratic tariff gambit, (b) throw global geopolitics into a tailspin with his soft-handed approach to an aggressive Russian tyrant and pugilistic behaviors towards America's former friends, and (c) put America itself on the edge of social collapse by openly taking sides in its most sensitive sociological/cultural moment in decades, and (d) inspire one of the great religions of the world to sell its soul to a person who is essentially the opposite of the deity it claims to follow.

One person has created a chaos most of us have never seen, because he has been allowed to.

That's because this has never been about that one person. This is about a country that is so sick and manipulable that it has allowed its priorities to become entirely perverted. Bad enough that this would happen to ANY country. But the most important, dynamic country in the world? It's still a little difficult to digest.

As this collapse continues, does anyone have any guesses as to what this country looks like in 20 years?

Chaos Theory Meets Trump: Why America’s Institutions and Psyche Are Under Siege

Mac will be apologizing for this thread shortly.

The 2025 Trump record:
1) Record stock market
2) Secure borders
3) Reduced crime
4) Got rid of DEI
5) Cutting the deficit
6) Evening up trade
7) Ramping up the US investment
8) Low gasoline prices
9) Tax cuts for the vast majority of Americans.
10) Reduced waste and fraud in Medicare
11) Reduced the size of government.
12) Peace in the Middle East

 

[Mashmont]

Mac will be apologizing for this thread shortly.

The 2025 Trump record:
1) Record stock market
2) Secure borders
3) Reduced crime
4) Got rid of DEI
5) Cutting the deficit
6) Evening up trade
7) Ramping up the US investment
8) Low gasoline prices
9) Tax cuts for the vast majority of Americans.
10) Reduced waste and fraud in Medicare
11) Reduced the size of government.
12) Peace in the Middle East

I guess you can laugh at these achievements if you like. Doesn't make you appear smart.

 

[leftwinger]

Mac will be apologizing for this thread shortly.

The 2025 Trump record:
1) Record stock market
2) Secure borders
3) Reduced crime
4) Got rid of DEI
5) Cutting the deficit
6) Evening up trade
7) Ramping up the US investment
8) Low gasoline prices
9) Tax cuts for the vast majority of Americans.
10) Reduced waste and fraud in Medicare
11) Reduced the size of government.
12) Peace in the Middle East

Mac&Cheese thinks it's funny? Huh? I do take issue with #8. No change in my area. But 30 miles away it is cheaper? Not driving az much so no worries. I'll take it.

 

[dudmuck]

The only thing in real chaos are the protestors (paid). Look at them, in their furry outfits, their blow up dolls and their megaphones.

 

[Nostra]

Mac1958 where is this COLLAPSE?

 

[Delldude]

Missed the point Muck.

Ain't too many professionally printed signs anymore due to Trump killing all the NGO'S funded through the Dems money laundry at USAID.

 

[dudmuck]

Missed the point Muck.

Ain't too many professionally printed signs anymore due to Trump killing all the NGO'S funded through the Dems money laundry at USAID.

ah, so the protestors arent paid because they were before paid via USAID.

 

[Delldude]

ah, so the protestors arent paid because they were before paid via USAID.

I didn't say that did I?

 

[dudmuck]

I didn't say that did I?

its sortof inferred when you talk of money laundering thru USAID in the context of paid protestors.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

A campaign rally and a 'grass roots protest' are not the same thing. At one, you would EXPECT pre-printed campaign signs, at the other... you wouldn't.

 

[Delldude]

its sortof inferred when you talk of money laundering thru USAID in the context of paid protestors.

Never mentioned paid protestors. Your meme reminded me of what I haven't seen at several gatherings of LW wackos......and that's a lack of professionally printed signs.

That's one thing that was always consistent with LW wackos protesting, printed signs.

That tells me they don't have the cash to cover that.

There's still NGO'S out there....the money's probably flowing in from Act Blue or other 'privately financed entities'.......just not tax payer funded anymore.

Trump shut down USAID......there were all kinds of cash monies flowing out to entities who were big dem donors who also received monies yearly from appropriations. Enough to donate back to the DNC one way or another.

Suddenly dems aren't raising cash like they were before USAID shut down.

Times are tough.

 

[Mac1958]

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He's building his own deep state. Only THIS is a REAL one.

Every accusation is an admission.