As a registered Republican I am disgusted by some of my brethren here.

[Truthmatters]

Deregulation happened under Clinton. Bush only increased financial regulation with SOX. Plus, he wanted to reign in Fannie and Freddie, but Dems would not let him.

Plus, Eisenhower loved to overthrow nascent democracies and establish puppet regimes, all in the name of big oil. Remember Operation Ajax? Your Republican hero was a slave to big oil.

Clinton signed the Gramm-Bliley Leach Act and the Commodities and Futures Modernization Act...both of whom were written by REPUBLICAN PHIL GRAMM. In those two pieces of legislation, conceived and rammed though congress by Republicans, that the seeds of the 2007 meltdown were born.
What's Phil Gramm doing now? He's a lobbyist for Swiss Banks...trying to keep secret bank accounts from being found by the US taxman. That's what heroes do...hide their income in socialist countries banks so they don't have to pay taxes on it. What's Clinton doing? Charity.

It is intellectually dishonest of you to suggest that deregulation is on the LIBERAL AGENDA and that repubs had NOTHING to do with it.

I will grant that Bush actually did do some spending on regulations, but not in the financial sector.

To his credit, Bush accurately foresaw the danger posed by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and began calling as early as 2002 for greater regulation of the mortgage giants. But experts say the administration could have done even more to curb excesses in the housing market, and much more to police Wall Street, which transmitted those problems around the world.

In retrospect, "it would have helped for the Bush administration to empower the folks at Treasury and the Federal Reserve and the comptroller of the currency and the FDIC to look at these issues more closely," said Vince Reinhardt, a former Federal Reserve economist now at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative-leaning research organization here. Reinhardt said it would also have helped "for Congress to have held hearings."

Instead, voices inside the administration who favored tougher policing of Wall Street found themselves with few supporters. William Donaldson, a former Wall Street executive with respected Republican credentials who became chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission under Bush, quit in 2005 after facing resistance from the White House and Republican members of the panel, who criticized his support for stiffer regulations on mutual funds and hedge funds.

Today, even those sympathetic to Bush say he cannot disentangle himself from a home-lending industry run amok or a banking industry that mortgaged its future on toxic loans.

"The crisis definitely happened on their watch," said Kenneth Rogoff, a professor of economics at Harvard University who advises the Republican presidential candidate John McCain. "This is eight years into the Bush administration. There was a lot of time to deal with it."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/business/worldbusiness/20iht-prexy.4.16321064.html?pagewanted=all

And the congressional inquiry into the meldown concluded that Fannie and Freddie contributed to it, but did not CAUSE the meltdown.

No one with any economic standing says otherwise.


As for Eisenhower....he called out the military industrial complex. What Republican has done that lately? You think that influence just went away?
Eisenhower understood guns over butter.
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.”


You sir, are an idiot who edits history to suit your current talking points.
Go fuck yourself.

The Bush administration aslo held back the protections written into the Law Clinton signed.


look at my signature

 

[Truthmatters]

Press Release: SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers; 2007-190; Sept. 19, 2007



SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers
Eight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be Implemented
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2007-190
Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.

 

[Truthmatters]

8 fucking years without the protections written into the GLBact

 

[Truthmatters]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc]Mitch McConnell: Top Priority, Make Obama a One Term President - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Liability]

Mitch McConnell: Top Priority, Make Obama a One Term President - YouTube

That sounds like a wonderful priority, especially now.

 

[Liability]

Hey, Tor: I have offered you a very specific PLATFORM to clear up the whole question of your authenticity or lack thereof.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5073884-post1.html

 

[saveliberty]

Tor is already feeling like our door mat Liability.

 

[Vidi]

Look at you.
Whining constantly about Obama.

He farts and you clowns whine about it. You call him names and call names to people who defend him. You don't debate the substance of what Obama or they say, you merely insult them without answering their complaints or concerns.
Is that what Americans want? Obnoxious jerks who blame everyone else for everything but they themselves are not responsible for their actions? No...they don't want WHINERS...they want WINNERS.

I ask myself this question often.
What have we done for the American people lately and why should they vote for us ?

We deregulated the financial system into a casino then made everyone pay to bail it out.
Did we ever ADMIT we did it? No. Do YOU trust people who make mistakes but don't admit to them?
We cut taxes on the rich, while cutting social services on people who need it the most....children and the elderly.
We REFUSE to look at the NUMBERS on socialized medicine. Half the cost....better care. The rest of the world isn't rushing to embrace our system...why ? If our system was inherently better, we'd have more countries following our lead...but that's not the case is it?

It's time to look at socialized medicine if it works...I've visited the Europe and they are VERY proud of their medical system. I actually heard one elderly lady in London describe the US health care system as "barbaric" having broken her ankle on vacation while here and saying she wouldn't trade systems for all the tea in India.

Time to END the favors to big oil, the NRA and Grover Nordquist. Either we adapt to the changing economic times that the vast majority of Americans are experiencing or we go extinct. Blaming Obama might get you in the door...it worked for him using Bush....but then you have to DO SOMETHING once you're there. What have we accomplished since the teapartiers took over? NOTHING!

We either kick out the big influence peddlers in our party out or we're doomed to look more and more like bought and paid for ladies of the evening.

I want Dwight Eisenhower dammit. A republican who understood the value of social and infrastructure spending. Who knew the value of military RESTRAINT. Who knew what it was like to be an ordinary joe, struggling to get by and not the crop of nanby-panby mancaped millionaire puffballs we've got in congress and running for office now.


In short....even though I just got here, my fellow conservatives have it mostly wrong and are kinda being dicks. No one likes dicks.

Once you have some knowledge of the board history, have read the countless threads will this opinion have any merit.

So far you come across as a whiny butt hurt leftie

Wow point proven by post #4. Actually amazed it took that long

 

[saveliberty]

Well, at least we have a pair of socks now.

 

[WillowTree]

Well, at least we have a pair of socks now.

 

[Liability]

Tor is already feeling like our door mat Liability.

Doormats at least have some utility!

 

[saveliberty]

Tor is already feeling like our door mat Liability.

Doormats at least have some utility!

Nice golf spikes. Wipe carefully.

 

[Ropey]

I'm a fraud republican for not falling in line with you obtuse shitheads here?

Fuck you.
Unlike you, I obviously give a shit about my COUNTRY more than my PARTY.

If the republican party can't handle criticism, what the hell good is it?
If we aren't willing to examine and re-examine our deepest held beliefs, what good are they?
If we're not willing to change and adapt, what will happen when the winds of change blow?

I'm sick of voting for republican promises of prosperity only to see my job shipped overseas.
I'm sick of being told government doesn't work when government won WW2, built the interstates and landed a man on the moon. What has this nation accomplished in the last 30 years since we abandoned government setting big goals ? Internet porn.

Men on the moon vs. Internet porn.

I've lived in both worlds and I know what world I would choose to live in.

Please continue...

 

[Dot Com]

Its refreshing to have a rational/moderate Repub on the board Sadly, he'll prolly be bum- rushed off the board by the resident eXtreme Righties just like Snowe (R) was from the senate

 

[Liability]

Its refreshing to have a rational/moderate Repub on the board Sadly, he'll prolly be bum- rushed off the board by the resident eXtreme Righties just like Snowe (R) was from the senate

Pfft.

He is as Republican as was FakeyJakey.

 

[Dot Com]

Give the new guy some breathing room

 

[Liability]

Give the new guy some breathing room

No. When he starts off with a lie, he doesn't deserve slack.

Let him man up and admit that he was just fucking around. There's always room for another lib talking point artist.

But we have more than enough poseurs of the quality of Fakey.

 

[Ropey]

Give the new guy some breathing room

He's got men on the moon and Internet porn covered already. More room...

Why not? Lemme see if I can find a rope.

 

[occupied]

Give the new guy some breathing room

That would be the nice thing to do, unfortunately these people don't do nice. Also, assuming he is sincere, the new guy kind of screwed up throwing down the gauntlet right off the bat.

 

[Oddball]

Well, at least we have a pair of socks now.

I don't care who you are...That's fuckin' funnah, right there.