Are You REAL ID Ready?

[sparky]

Illusion of freedom

~S~

 

[dblack]

Where are they in the Constitution?

Heh... You're reading the Construction like liberal. Take a look at the ninth amendment. Read an explanation of what it means.

Airlines are private companies. They can (and do) ban whomever they want.

Right, and they can invite whomever they like to fly with them. Unless there's a warrant for their arrest, government should have no say in the matter.

 

[buttercup]

Enter federal buildings?!?

Yes. That's what she said. In the video below start watching from :11 in.




And here's what is says on their website:

Passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act enacted the 9/11 Commission's recommendation that the Federal Government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses.” The Act established minimum security standards for state-issued driver's licenses and identification cards and prohibits certain federal agencies from accepting for official purposes licenses and identification cards from states that do not meet these standards. These purposes are:

Accessing certain federal facilities
Boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft
Entering nuclear power plants​

 

[buttercup]

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/stay-informed.764366/post-23461628

Internal Passports Come to USSA - #NewWorldNextWeek
5 years ago

You Are Being Programmed to Accept the Global ID Control Grid | The Corbett Report

corbettreport.com

THANK YOU! I always love Corbett's work, so I'll definitely watch that later.

Sadly, the people who need to watch videos like that almost certain won't.

This comes to mind....

 

[buttercup]

I would have been with you, say, 10 years ago. Not today. Too much has changed. We are overrun with illegals, many dangerous, and we have no more mental institutions for people who are sick and dangerous. So, we need something like this now, practically.

Do I trust the govt? No. But do I trust society? Also, no.

And that was by design. For the very purpose of getting you to the point where you are now, saying what you're saying now...and willingly complying with something that you ordinarily would not have.

Do you see how that works? It's called Problem - Reaction - Solution.

As I talked about in post #61.

And as Mister Beale explained in post #183...in a much more eloquent way.

Here's another example below. As she said at the top of the tweet.... they keep using that strategy because it clearly works! People don't realize that their consent has been manipulated.

 

[buttercup]

Au Contraire, my agreement with real ID did not come unthoughtfully. I listed my reasons above.

It appears that you completely misunderstood Mister Beale's reply to you in post #183.

Hopefully my previous reply or the one I linked to in my previous reply will help.

But something tells me you won't believe what we're trying to get through to you. Same with foxfyre, and a few others here.

 

[playtime]

yes. i have been for a couple years.

 

[80zephyr]

By allowing people to be tracked, then the government will know how you vote, your religion, your associations, and anything else they might want to use to decide to harm you or not.
Remember the "Krystal Nacht" in 1938 Germany?
Privacy is essential to any republic.

If you don't think you can be tracked with your SS card...wow.

 

[buttercup]

. . . and the reasons you listed? Were created by the government.

duh.

Maybe a meme will make it easier for folks to get.....

 

[buttercup]

Well you should be really specific about what "rights" I'm giving up. The right to fly? I don't have one. The right to drive a vehicle? Don't have that either. Those aren't "rights"

The right to interstate travel (freedom of movement), and privacy, for starters.

 

[TimFitz]

I know. I posted a video saying that this legislation started with the Patriot Act.

The difference is, now they're saying that by May 7 it's required to fly or enter Federal buildings.

It already is required to get into a lot of federal facilities.

 

[SweetSue92]

It appears that you completely misunderstood Mister Beale's reply to you in post #183.

Hopefully my previous reply or the one I linked to in my previous reply will help.

But something tells me you won't believe what we're trying to get through to you. Same with foxfyre, and a few others here.

In post #183 we get generalizations.

WHAT RIGHTS--exactly!--are being infringed by Real ID? Refer to the Bill of Rights.

 

[SweetSue92]

The right to interstate travel (freedom of movement), and privacy, for starters.

Is the govt impeding anyone's true RIGHT to "interstate travel"? Or just the right to fly there? Are these real ID required for, say, car or train travel?

 

[SweetSue92]

Maybe a meme will make it easier for folks to get.....

View attachment 1100049

Okay so, you are in favor of no identification whatsoever for anyone in the US to vote?

 

[dblack]

Okay so, you are in favor of no identification whatsoever for anyone in the US to vote?

Yep... Peel it back, and it's all about the stolen erections

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yep... Peel it back, and it's all about the stolen erections

Okay, I have to know.

Was this on purpose or a typo?

WW

 

[buttercup]

Is the govt impeding anyone's true RIGHT to "interstate travel"? Or just the right to fly there? Are these real ID required for, say, car or train travel?

You sound exactly like the gun grabbers who defend incremental infringements on the 2A, by saying things like "you can still have a gun, but you just have to ____" (put in the blank whatever new legislation that make it increasingly difficult.)

What if someone needs to get to the other side of the country quickly, and they can't drive or take a train? And what if that person doesn't want to comply with a national ID that stores our personal data in a federal mega-database run by a thoroughly corrupt government? (If anyone doesn't realize by now that that's the case, for many years, then this conversation is probably pointless.)

So yes, their right to travel freely within the US IS being impeded.

Again, just like with the 2A comparison, you're not seeing that continual infringements is how we end up like that frog in boiling water. These things are done slowly and incrementally. And if people complacently go along with it every single time, with that attitude of "I don't mind a few inconveniences, if it means we'll "get an honest vote" (what a joke that is)....then you're part of the problem. In the same way that the Dems who willingly hand over 2A rights are part of the problem. In BOTH instances, you only gain the illusion of security, as dblack put it earlier. Not true security. And what do you actually get out of the deal? More loss of freedom and privacy. And you get exactly what they manipulated you to consent to....a national ID to keep track of US citizens....that is a precursor to worse things to come, because it won't stop there.

 

[MisterBeale]

Refer to the Bill of Rights.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[buttercup]

Hey MisterBeale ....get this. I wanted to verify the tweet below, and what I got was that James Sensenbrenner - while not the sole author of the Patriot Act, was a primary sponsor and key driver behind it in the House, and he authored and introduced the REAL ID Act himself.

So basically we have the same guy to thank for both the Patriot Act and the REAL ID Act.

 

[MisterBeale]

Okay so, you are in favor of no identification whatsoever for anyone in the US to vote?

There is a vast difference between state IDs, and a national identification and data collection system.