Are you ashamed of your heritage?

[rightwinger]

You should know he merely makes up shit. Somehow he thinks it must protect Lincoln’s legacy, like a good sixth grader would.

Lincoln sought war which is why he tried to deceive SC, in the hope they’d fire on the fort. Somehow this action justifies an invasion of the entire south, but only in the minds of demented statist fools.

I am providing facts

You provide lost cause revisionist history

 

[Quantrill]

Read your own post 408
Then admit you are wrong

I did read it. I made no such claim. You accused me of saying 'Lincoln did nothing to stop the war and preserve the Union'. Post #(414)

As I said, I made no such claim. We were talking about Fort Sumter.

Again, prove Lincoln was trying to negotiate peace at Fort Sumter.

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

As I said, I made no such claim. We were talking about Fort Sumter.

Again, prove Lincoln was trying to negotiate peace at Fort Sumter.

Quantrill

Read post 408

YOU made the claim and now say I am changing the subject

 

[Quantrill]

Read post 408

YOU made the claim and now say I am changing the subject

No, you accused me of saying 'Lincoln did nothing to stop the war and preserve the Union'. Post #(414)

In post #(408), I said, 'prove Lincoln was trying to arrange peace and save the Union'. Which was a response to your Sumter remark and the South forced Lincoln's hand. post #(407)

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[rightwinger]

Lol. Again with the sixth grade government school propaganda.

STOP LYING LIKE DON!

I learned about the Civil War in fourth grade not the sixth
But what was true 60 years ago is true today

The war was caused by slavery
Lincoln wax our greatest President
The attack on Ft Sumter provoked the war

What has changed in 60 years is that the internet has allowed the distribution of Lost Cause revisionist history that is parroted by morons like yourself

 

[rightwinger]

If the Civil War had not happened the US would never have become the super power it became. You would have had an industrialized north and the South would have remained agrarian and been the equivalent of Brazil. Who knows what would have happened during WWI. We could have had the North supporting England and the South supporting the Kaiser, and who knows where that would have led.

The one fact remains is that after the civil war this country was never the same. Lincoln nailed it his Gettysburg Address that the nation had a new rebirth in freedom.

This is Lincoln's America and even with all its faults and problems, we are the better for it.

Before the Civil War we were a bunch of states that were united

After the war, we became THE UNITED STATES

 

[Quantrill]

Before the Civil War we were a bunch of states that were united

After the war, we became THE UNITED STATES

United by the bayonet.

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[Quantrill]

Before the War we were united by the Constitution. That was destroyed and changed.

After the War we are united by the bayonet.

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[Unkotare]

United by the bayonet.

Quantrill

You asked for it.

 

[gipper]

I learned about the Civil War in fourth grade not the sixth
But what was true 60 years ago is true today

The war was caused by slavery
Lincoln wax our greatest President
The attack on Ft Sumter provoked the war

What has changed in 60 years is that the internet has allowed the distribution of Lost Cause revisionist history that is parroted by morons like yourself

You’ve learned the government narrative in government school decades ago and failed to learned anything new since.

Stop lying!

 

[gipper]

I agree. Once Lincoln was the official President and not just President elect, he started preparing to force the Sumter issue.

And, in reality, Anderson and the North started the first act of war when he moved his troops from Moultrie to Sumter while the negotiations were still going on.

Quantrill

Lincoln provoked a military response so that he could justify war. It’s an old tactic used repeatedly by the ruling class and it works every time on the easily manipulated.

 

[rightwinger]

You’ve learned the government narrative in government school decades ago and failed to learned anything new since.

Stop lying!

That narrative is still true
The war was over slavery
LIncoln saved the union

 

[rightwinger]

Lincoln provoked a military response so that he could justify war. It’s an old tactic used repeatedly by the ruling class and it works every time on the easily manipulated.

LIncoln sought to preserve the union when elected

The south rejected his offers and started the war
Resulted in their butt kicking

 

[gipper]

That narrative is still true
The war was over slavery
LIncoln saved the union

Kill them to keep them. Nice motto for a nation founded on individual liberty.

Can’t fix stupid.

 

[rightwinger]

Kill them to keep them. Nice motto for a nation founded on individual liberty.

Can’t fix stupid.

South should have accepted Lincoln’s offer to keep slavery if they stayed in the union

Instead, they attacked Ft Sumter

Poke a bear with a stick, don’t complain when you get mauled

 

[Quantrill]

You asked for it.

No. Lincoln and the North brought it. Gee, one liners are so easy.

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[Quantrill]

Lincoln provoked a military response so that he could justify war. It’s an old tactic used repeatedly by the ruling class and it works every time on the easily manipulated.

Exactly right. The North wanted to posture themselves as the 'good guys'. Mom, apple pie, bullshit.

Indeed it does. Give the people what they want to believe. And they have been teaching it ever since the Northern victory.

And everyone keeps believing that smoke they are blowin up their ass.

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

Exactly right. The North wanted to posture themselves as the 'good guys'. Mom, apple pie, bullshit.

Indeed it does. Give the people what they want to believe. And they have been teaching it ever since the Northern victory.

And everyone keeps believing that smoke they are blowin up their ass.

Quantrill

The Confederacy was an Evil Empire that deserved what they got

 

[Quantrill]

That narrative is still true
The war was over slavery
LIncoln saved the union

No, Lincoln destroyed the Union. As was said, the Union was based upon the Constitution. The North destroyed that and changed the Constitution. Now the Union is based upon the bayonet.

Lincoln saved nothing. Lincoln destroyed the Union.

The father of our country used to be George Washington. Now, due to the Northern victory, it is Abraham Lincoln.

Lincoln saved nothing.

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[Quantrill]

The Confederacy was an Evil Empire that deserved what they got

Who says? You?

Quantrill