Contumacious
Radical Freedom
Now Vote for a Party who caters to those individuals, who will not make you feel guilty for ganging up on the Taxpayers, Vote for those who support the welfare/warfare Party.
The Demopublicans
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Are You an Enemy of Liberty?
- Thread starter Publius1787
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Now Vote for a Party who caters to those individuals, who will not make you feel guilty for ganging up on the Taxpayers, Vote for those who support the welfare/warfare Party.
The Demopublicans
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Are you an enemy of reason?
Do you feel that repeating catch phrase ideology endlessly will convince anyone of anything?
We'll take that as a yes.
That the OP is an enemy of reason, or that the OP feels his catch_phrase_ideology makes a difference to someone?
occupied
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The true test of one's appreciation of liberty is not the zeal with which they would protect the freedoms they appreciate for themselves but the diligence with which they would protect the rights of others, even those they might not agree with or even hate. We like to make a big deal about those rights outlined in the bill of rights but the appreciation of freedom should go further then that. There are a host of social freedoms that moralistic RW christian conservatives would just as soon destroy and a bunch of working class economic freedoms that big business republicans do not give a fuck about at all and are openly hostile to. When I hear these people preaching liberty I wonder what the hell they are talking about. Half of them want to make everything fun or sexually "immoral" illegal, the other half seem to think poverty stricken people are undeserving of the rights they would explode over losing and almost none of them are respectful of privacy or the freedom to not be unduly hassled by the cops. This is not to say that democrats are a whole lot better in practice but the activity of protecting these intangible rights of economic and social freedom has almost entirely fallen to them and all too often they compromise with conservative assholes to achieve Fascism lite, whoop-tee-doo.
I prefer lazy moochers or just plain PARASITES.Fucking nutters will learn someday.......that accusing your fellow hardworking Americans of being lazy takers.......does not lead to political power.
I get your drift. I don't use that term anymore.
I refer to the parasites nowadays as work ethic challenged.
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Contumacious
Radical Freedom
The true test of one's appreciation of liberty is not the zeal with which they would protect the freedoms they appreciate for themselves but the diligence with which they would protect the rights of others, even those they might not agree with or even hate. We like to make a big deal about those rights outlined in the bill of rights but the appreciation of freedom should go further then that. There are a host of social freedoms that moralistic RW christian conservatives would just as soon destroy and a bunch of working class economic freedoms that big business republicans do not give a fuck about at all and are openly hostile to. When I hear these people preaching liberty I wonder what the hell they are talking about. Half of them want to make everything fun or sexually "immoral" illegal, the other half seem to think poverty stricken people are undeserving of the rights they would explode over losing and almost none of them are respectful of privacy or the freedom to not be unduly hassled by the cops. This is not to say that democrats are a whole lot better in practice but the activity of protecting these intangible rights of economic and social freedom has almost entirely fallen to them and all too often they compromise with conservative assholes to achieve Fascism lite, whoop-tee-doo.
I don't think the op is a repugnant.
Libertarians support the RIGHT of the taxpayers to keep THEIR hard earned money and to give it away VOLUNTARILY.
We also support any activity in which ADULTS partake VOLUNTARILY.
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How about we just say that they're afraid of Liberty...and the responsibility that comes with it...but then they have spines of linguine and have to have government run their lives for them at the expense of others. I call them pussies.
Life, Liberty, Pursuit of happiness (property)...the stuff of life.The true test of one's appreciation of liberty is not the zeal with which they would protect the freedoms they appreciate for themselves but the diligence with which they would protect the rights of others, even those they might not agree with or even hate. We like to make a big deal about those rights outlined in the bill of rights but the appreciation of freedom should go further then that. There are a host of social freedoms that moralistic RW christian conservatives would just as soon destroy and a bunch of working class economic freedoms that big business republicans do not give a fuck about at all and are openly hostile to. When I hear these people preaching liberty I wonder what the hell they are talking about. Half of them want to make everything fun or sexually "immoral" illegal, the other half seem to think poverty stricken people are undeserving of the rights they would explode over losing and almost none of them are respectful of privacy or the freedom to not be unduly hassled by the cops. This is not to say that democrats are a whole lot better in practice but the activity of protecting these intangible rights of economic and social freedom has almost entirely fallen to them and all too often they compromise with conservative assholes to achieve Fascism lite, whoop-tee-doo.
I don't think the op is a repugnant.
Libertarians support the RIGHT of the taxpayers to keep THEIR hard earned money and to give it away VOLUNTARILY.
We also support any activity in which ADULTS partake VOLUNTARILY.
.
occupied
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The true test of one's appreciation of liberty is not the zeal with which they would protect the freedoms they appreciate for themselves but the diligence with which they would protect the rights of others, even those they might not agree with or even hate. We like to make a big deal about those rights outlined in the bill of rights but the appreciation of freedom should go further then that. There are a host of social freedoms that moralistic RW christian conservatives would just as soon destroy and a bunch of working class economic freedoms that big business republicans do not give a fuck about at all and are openly hostile to. When I hear these people preaching liberty I wonder what the hell they are talking about. Half of them want to make everything fun or sexually "immoral" illegal, the other half seem to think poverty stricken people are undeserving of the rights they would explode over losing and almost none of them are respectful of privacy or the freedom to not be unduly hassled by the cops. This is not to say that democrats are a whole lot better in practice but the activity of protecting these intangible rights of economic and social freedom has almost entirely fallen to them and all too often they compromise with conservative assholes to achieve Fascism lite, whoop-tee-doo.
I don't think the op is a repugnant.
Libertarians support the RIGHT of the taxpayers to keep THEIR hard earned money and to give it away VOLUNTARILY.
We also support any activity in which ADULTS partake VOLUNTARILY.
.
Sorry you guys fail the freedom test big time when it is big business vs. the little guy. You may not feel it is proper to protect our citizens from undue economic exploitation and abandonment but for everyday purposes it is one of the most important factors in anyone's feeling of being free.
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1799...
You should cumquat. YOU'D have more liberty than you do now.
Learn it, KNOW it, LIVE it.
Contumacious
Radical Freedom
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1799...
HUH?
You wouldn't have survived in 1799.
Had you demanded that taxpayers be compelled to feed and insure back then they would have shot you right between your beady eyes.
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The2ndAmendment
Gold Member
2A,
You still working for that caterer?
Yes, and a second job now, thanks to obamacare.
Or be challenged to a duel when it was legal...So tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1799...
HUH?
You wouldn't have survived in 1799.
Had you demanded that taxpayers be compelled to feed and insure back then they would have shot you right between your beady eyes.
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Some people have NO HONOR.
Contumacious
Radical Freedom
The true test of one's appreciation of liberty is not the zeal with which they would protect the freedoms they appreciate for themselves but the diligence with which they would protect the rights of others, even those they might not agree with or even hate. We like to make a big deal about those rights outlined in the bill of rights but the appreciation of freedom should go further then that. There are a host of social freedoms that moralistic RW christian conservatives would just as soon destroy and a bunch of working class economic freedoms that big business republicans do not give a fuck about at all and are openly hostile to. When I hear these people preaching liberty I wonder what the hell they are talking about. Half of them want to make everything fun or sexually "immoral" illegal, the other half seem to think poverty stricken people are undeserving of the rights they would explode over losing and almost none of them are respectful of privacy or the freedom to not be unduly hassled by the cops. This is not to say that democrats are a whole lot better in practice but the activity of protecting these intangible rights of economic and social freedom has almost entirely fallen to them and all too often they compromise with conservative assholes to achieve Fascism lite, whoop-tee-doo.
I don't think the op is a repugnant.
Libertarians support the RIGHT of the taxpayers to keep THEIR hard earned money and to give it away VOLUNTARILY.
We also support any activity in which ADULTS partake VOLUNTARILY.
.
Sorry you guys fail the freedom test big time when it is big business vs. the little guy. You may not feel it is proper to protect our citizens from undue economic exploitation and abandonment but for everyday purposes it is one of the most important factors in anyone's feeling of being free.
The only businesses that exploit are those which have been granted COERCIVE MONOPOLY STATUS by the bureaucrats.
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LoneLaugher
Diamond Member
2A,
You still working for that caterer?
Yes, and a second job now, thanks to obamacare.
Is that right? Obamacare forced you to get a second job?
occupied
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and with that remark you show your disregard for the working poor, how do you feel about collective bargaining? Bet you do not even see that as a right.I don't think the op is a repugnant.
Libertarians support the RIGHT of the taxpayers to keep THEIR hard earned money and to give it away VOLUNTARILY.
We also support any activity in which ADULTS partake VOLUNTARILY.
.
Sorry you guys fail the freedom test big time when it is big business vs. the little guy. You may not feel it is proper to protect our citizens from undue economic exploitation and abandonment but for everyday purposes it is one of the most important factors in anyone's feeling of being free.
The only businesses that exploit are those which have been granted COERCIVE MONOPOLY STATUS by the bureaucrats.
.
Those who seek to deny voting rights to persons receiving public assistance are enemies of liberty.Are You an Enemy of Liberty?
Those who seek to violate same-sex couples 14th Amendment equal protection rights by denying them access to marriage law are enemies of liberty.
Those who seek to outlaw private citizens calling for a boycott are enemies of liberty.
Those who seek to subject women who have had an abortion to forced sterilization are enemies of liberty.
Those who seek to violate the 4th Amendment privacy rights of women by banning abortion are enemies of liberty.
Those who seek to criminalize homosexuality are enemies of liberty.
Those who seek to deny American citizens instate college tuition solely because their parents are undocumented immigrants are enemies of liberty.
Those who seek to deny transgender persons their First and 5th Amendment rights to freely express themselves as individuals are enemies of liberty.
Those who seek to place undue burdens to the right to vote absent evidence in support of those burdens are enemies of liberty.
Those who seek to deny immigrants their 14th Amendment right to due process are enemies of liberty.
Those who seek to violate the 4th Amendment rights of persons applying for public assistance by requiring drugs tests as a condition of eligibility are enemies of liberty.
These are the actual enemies of liberty.
Does your ideology require laws to aid certain classes of people over others?
Like Carried Interest, the special tax available only to upper class citizens.
Like the luxury boat tax credit.
Like the vacation home tax credit.
Does your ideology believe that humans are inherently weak?
Like the way Rick Santorum wants to ban porn, especially gay porn which he believes turns people toward homosexuality.
Like the way conservative Christians push for prayer back in schools, asking an invisible man in the sky to help the helpless children.
Like posting the 10 Commandments outside a courthouse because we're too stupid to remember killing bad.
Does your ideology incentivize idleness through permanent welfare?
Like the decades of tax credits and other tax strategies that help GE never owe any federal income tax.
Like the farm Subsidies that go mostly to big corporate farms and not hard-working little farmers.
Like water subsidies that go to big agribusiness.
Like decades of subsidies to timber companies.
Like all the big profitable industries that receive property tax reductions, infrastructure assistance, research grants and tax credits.
Does your ideology place more emphasis on victimization than hard work, talent, and intellect?
Like the war on "Christians" or war on Christmas.
Like the "lame stream" biased media that was "in the bag" for Obama.
Like the Factcheckers that only get it right when they check Obama.
Like the privileged white kids suing Universities because they couldn't get in over minorities who achieved comparable scores without the benefit of tutors and SAT classes while working p/t to supplement the income earned by their single parent family that doesn't vacation in Vale or Disney World. Those Universities shouldn't be FREE to choose a freshman class based on anything by SAT scores and GPA. If you come of like an entitled brat in the interview or your essay shows you to be lacking in character, then that shouldn't matter.
Like Sarah Palin who quit her job because of the mean partisans who wouldn't leave her alone. The Governor job was hard, but so is going on TV from a studio in your house.
Like Chick-fil-a or Hobby Lobby who were victimized by those expressing themselves via a boycott.
Like Duck Dynasty Dude who was victimized by the magazine who printed what he said and the people who read what he said and reacted. All his scary talent and abilities are in danger of being taken away from us.
Does your ideology believe in top-down guesswork via central committees over bottom-up empiricism and common sense?
Like The American Family Association. NRA. Cato. Heritage. Or any powerful lobby group that dictates policy in exchange for campaign support.
Like a National Political Party with purity tests.
Like any big Christian mega-Church or Religious body who prays to an Invisible Man in the sky to fix things and discourages individual freethinking and soul-searching over social issues.
Does your ideology believe that only a strong state can create prosperity and human happiness?
Like the Keynesian overfunding of the military-industrial complex to keep us "safe and strong".
Like the Texas high school history textbooks that only tell happy stories of Native Americans and Slaves, and the positive achievements of U.S.A.
Does your ideology believe that historical wrongs should be corrected?
Generally speaking, yes.
If a town in the South has a history of lynching and voter suppression, we might want to correct them and keep an eye on them.
At least acknowledged and atoned for.
If we do not admit our wrongs, we are destined to repeat them.
Does your ideology believe the state does a better job of raising children than parents?
Like the American Family Association, prayer in schools, laws banning gay adoption, and forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term because the state knows what's best for the unborn zygote or fetus.
Like editing a public school history book to promote the idea that the founders were devout Christians.
Like banning the teaching of Evolution or demanding the Creationism be taught as science.
Does your ideology believe that wealth inequality must be solved by plundering from the rich to give to the poor?
No plundering needed. Just pay your fair share.
Does your ideology believe utopian equality can be reached through tinkering with the law as if improving a food recipe?
When a law becomes outdated or irrelevant, I like the freedom to get rid of it.
When a law has too many loopholes that allow people to escape justice or end run around the intent of the law, then I like the freedom to fix (or tinker).
Does your ideology believe that feelings are more important than truth?
Like the way anti-abortionists use frothy emotional appeals filled with images of dead children and Holocausts, when the fact is that Roe v. Wade is settled law.
Like the way the homophobes cry and snivel about the "traditional marriage" while ignoring the fact that a "wife" in the bible refers to an underage girl sold by her father for cows and some land.
Like the way the same homophobes use the emotional word "abomination" while ignoring that in the context of Leviticus, it only means unclean and also referred to shellfish and mixed threads. Not so horrible after all.
Like the impotent rage and sometimes bigotry (emotion) the Tea Partiers directed at the duly elected President (truth) who's NOT a Marxist and was born in this country.
Does your ideology believe that combining different peoples in a defined space will create peace and love?
Depends on how your decorate the space? Sound proof the walls and add lots of sexy pillows, big couches, and a giant jacuzzi .
Peace and Love!!
Does your ideology want to rid society of offensive speech?
Like As-salam alaykum? Or Hola. ¿Tienes un trabajo para mí?
Does your ideology believe the free market should not be free?
Like giving subsidies to energy companies, coal companies, oil companies. Bailing out banks that took too many risks.
Does your ideology believe its okay for the government to perform an action that citizens are forbidden from doing?
Like declaring war based on misinformation.
Like making investments based on inside proprietary information -- (psst, the STOCK Act was quietly act repealed 2013.)
Does your ideology encourage or enable the most lazy part of you?
Like the tax breaks for capital gains and investment income.
Like lowering the death tax and creating trust laws that allow do-nothing children of wealthy people to never work.
Does your ideology require the censorship of other ideologies for it to prosper?
Like banning Sharia Law.
Like labeling those against a war in Iraq after 9/11 as anti-American.
Like burning the Quran.
Like those Texas high School History books .
Does your ideology believe past human traditions, rituals, and heuristics have no place in modern society?
Like Usury as a serious crime.
Like having to talk during a filibuster.
Like people accepting the outcome of an election.
Like having to turn over your firearm to the sheriff when coming into town to do business.
Then you have serious issues with all parties.
Because Dem, Pub, Libertarian, or Tea Party -- they all see their ideology as just.
And your post expresses an ideology and creative vision as well, one you would want to impose on a people who have already agreed to live by certain rules and reasonable limits on some freedoms -- it is YOU who are encroaching on our Liberty to choose our way of life for better or worse.
Like Carried Interest, the special tax available only to upper class citizens.
Like the luxury boat tax credit.
Like the vacation home tax credit.
Does your ideology believe that humans are inherently weak?
Like the way Rick Santorum wants to ban porn, especially gay porn which he believes turns people toward homosexuality.
Like the way conservative Christians push for prayer back in schools, asking an invisible man in the sky to help the helpless children.
Like posting the 10 Commandments outside a courthouse because we're too stupid to remember killing bad.
Does your ideology incentivize idleness through permanent welfare?
Like the decades of tax credits and other tax strategies that help GE never owe any federal income tax.
Like the farm Subsidies that go mostly to big corporate farms and not hard-working little farmers.
Like water subsidies that go to big agribusiness.
Like decades of subsidies to timber companies.
Like all the big profitable industries that receive property tax reductions, infrastructure assistance, research grants and tax credits.
Does your ideology place more emphasis on victimization than hard work, talent, and intellect?
Like the war on "Christians" or war on Christmas.
Like the "lame stream" biased media that was "in the bag" for Obama.
Like the Factcheckers that only get it right when they check Obama.
Like the privileged white kids suing Universities because they couldn't get in over minorities who achieved comparable scores without the benefit of tutors and SAT classes while working p/t to supplement the income earned by their single parent family that doesn't vacation in Vale or Disney World. Those Universities shouldn't be FREE to choose a freshman class based on anything by SAT scores and GPA. If you come of like an entitled brat in the interview or your essay shows you to be lacking in character, then that shouldn't matter.
Like Sarah Palin who quit her job because of the mean partisans who wouldn't leave her alone. The Governor job was hard, but so is going on TV from a studio in your house.
Like Chick-fil-a or Hobby Lobby who were victimized by those expressing themselves via a boycott.
Like Duck Dynasty Dude who was victimized by the magazine who printed what he said and the people who read what he said and reacted. All his scary talent and abilities are in danger of being taken away from us.
Does your ideology believe in top-down guesswork via central committees over bottom-up empiricism and common sense?
Like The American Family Association. NRA. Cato. Heritage. Or any powerful lobby group that dictates policy in exchange for campaign support.
Like a National Political Party with purity tests.
Like any big Christian mega-Church or Religious body who prays to an Invisible Man in the sky to fix things and discourages individual freethinking and soul-searching over social issues.
Does your ideology believe that only a strong state can create prosperity and human happiness?
Like the Keynesian overfunding of the military-industrial complex to keep us "safe and strong".
Like the Texas high school history textbooks that only tell happy stories of Native Americans and Slaves, and the positive achievements of U.S.A.
Does your ideology believe that historical wrongs should be corrected?
Generally speaking, yes.
If a town in the South has a history of lynching and voter suppression, we might want to correct them and keep an eye on them.
At least acknowledged and atoned for.
If we do not admit our wrongs, we are destined to repeat them.
Does your ideology believe the state does a better job of raising children than parents?
Like the American Family Association, prayer in schools, laws banning gay adoption, and forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term because the state knows what's best for the unborn zygote or fetus.
Like editing a public school history book to promote the idea that the founders were devout Christians.
Like banning the teaching of Evolution or demanding the Creationism be taught as science.
Does your ideology believe that wealth inequality must be solved by plundering from the rich to give to the poor?
No plundering needed. Just pay your fair share.
Does your ideology believe utopian equality can be reached through tinkering with the law as if improving a food recipe?
When a law becomes outdated or irrelevant, I like the freedom to get rid of it.
When a law has too many loopholes that allow people to escape justice or end run around the intent of the law, then I like the freedom to fix (or tinker).
Does your ideology believe that feelings are more important than truth?
Like the way anti-abortionists use frothy emotional appeals filled with images of dead children and Holocausts, when the fact is that Roe v. Wade is settled law.
Like the way the homophobes cry and snivel about the "traditional marriage" while ignoring the fact that a "wife" in the bible refers to an underage girl sold by her father for cows and some land.
Like the way the same homophobes use the emotional word "abomination" while ignoring that in the context of Leviticus, it only means unclean and also referred to shellfish and mixed threads. Not so horrible after all.
Like the impotent rage and sometimes bigotry (emotion) the Tea Partiers directed at the duly elected President (truth) who's NOT a Marxist and was born in this country.
Does your ideology believe that combining different peoples in a defined space will create peace and love?
Depends on how your decorate the space? Sound proof the walls and add lots of sexy pillows, big couches, and a giant jacuzzi .
Peace and Love!!
Does your ideology want to rid society of offensive speech?
Like As-salam alaykum? Or Hola. ¿Tienes un trabajo para mí?
Does your ideology believe the free market should not be free?
Like giving subsidies to energy companies, coal companies, oil companies. Bailing out banks that took too many risks.
Does your ideology believe its okay for the government to perform an action that citizens are forbidden from doing?
Like declaring war based on misinformation.
Like making investments based on inside proprietary information -- (psst, the STOCK Act was quietly act repealed 2013.)
Does your ideology encourage or enable the most lazy part of you?
Like the tax breaks for capital gains and investment income.
Like lowering the death tax and creating trust laws that allow do-nothing children of wealthy people to never work.
Does your ideology require the censorship of other ideologies for it to prosper?
Like banning Sharia Law.
Like labeling those against a war in Iraq after 9/11 as anti-American.
Like burning the Quran.
Like those Texas high School History books .
Does your ideology believe past human traditions, rituals, and heuristics have no place in modern society?
Like Usury as a serious crime.
Like having to talk during a filibuster.
Like people accepting the outcome of an election.
Like having to turn over your firearm to the sheriff when coming into town to do business.
If you answered yes to any of the above, you have chosen an ideology that obstructs another mans property, pursuit of happiness, and ability to engage in commerce, all so that you may usher in your creative vision of what human society should be. Whether you see your ideology as just or not, there will be a fight when it encroaches on my liberty.
Then you have serious issues with all parties.
Because Dem, Pub, Libertarian, or Tea Party -- they all see their ideology as just.
And your post expresses an ideology and creative vision as well, one you would want to impose on a people who have already agreed to live by certain rules and reasonable limits on some freedoms -- it is YOU who are encroaching on our Liberty to choose our way of life for better or worse.
Contumacious
Radical Freedom
and with that remark you show your disregard for the working poor, how do you feel about collective bargaining? Bet you do not even see that as a right.Sorry you guys fail the freedom test big time when it is big business vs. the little guy. You may not feel it is proper to protect our citizens from undue economic exploitation and abandonment but for everyday purposes it is one of the most important factors in anyone's feeling of being free.
The only businesses that exploit are those which have been granted COERCIVE MONOPOLY STATUS by the bureaucrats.
.
Americans have a right to freely associate.
You have a right to join a union.
And the employer has a right to hire NON-union.
.
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'Right to work' States are where to be. UNIONS can go to HELL.and with that remark you show your disregard for the working poor, how do you feel about collective bargaining? Bet you do not even see that as a right.The only businesses that exploit are those which have been granted COERCIVE MONOPOLY STATUS by the bureaucrats.
.
Americans have a right to freely associate.
You have a right to join a union.
And the employer has a right to hire NON-union.
.
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