Are trump's policies threatening the loss of a large constituency?

[kyzr]

$1 trillion a year

AI is wrong. Total 2024 Federal revenue is $4.9T per the CBO. $350b is 7% of $4,900b.

 

[berg80]

And they all did much better with the subsidy than they ever would have done on the retail market.
I noticed you continue to neglect to include that point. Agricultural retail sales are subject to heavy international competition.... Subsidies on the other hand are not.

Many of those first time arounders have already retooled and and repurposed their lands to support profitable crops needed in another places.

AI Overview

While federal subsidies have provided substantial financial assistance to farmers, they have not fully compensated for the deep and lasting damage caused by lost market access. Payments helped many farmers stay afloat during recent crises, but they could not replace the sustained demand and competitive prices of established export markets, particularly during the U.S.-China trade war and the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

[berg80]

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American consumers account for much of that money. It's like an extra sales tax.

 

[kyzr]

American consumers account for much of that money. It's like an extra sales tax.

That is what you say without proof. Actually importers pay tariffs.
If they pass the cost to consumers they will lose sales and market share.

 

[berg80]

The humble soybean is the latest flashpoint in the Trump administration’s campaign to reshape global trade. Used in everything from animal feed to fuel, soybeans regularly rank among the most valuable U.S. agricultural exports, towering over higher-profile crops like corn and cotton.

More than $30 billion worth of American soybean products were exported in fiscal year 2024, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. For American soybean farmers, their top overseas market has long been China, which bought around a third of the export crop — approximately $12 billion worth of American soybean products — in the last calendar year, USDA data shows.

But not anymore.

As President Donald Trump’s trade war leaves U.S.-China relations somewhere between frosty and openly hostile, America’s soybean farmers appear to be an early casualty.

Trump's trade agenda has a new flashpoint: The humble soybean

China has turned to soybeans from Argentine farmers even as the Trump administration telegraphs help for Argentina's economy. U.S. farmers have been left in the lurch.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[berg80]

That is what you say without proof. Actually importers pay tariffs.
If they pass the cost to consumers they will lose sales and market share.

And if they don't pass the cost on to consumers they'll go broke.

https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/short-run-effects-2025-tariffs-so-far

 

[Hafar1014]

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AI is wrong. Total 2024 Federal revenue is $4.9T per the CBO. $350b is 7% of $4,900b.

1 trillion which is enough to pay off the annual deficit of 1.6 trillion

 

[justoffal]

1 trillion a year

Yep that's the most recent number ...
Still not enough to please the negative nabobs.
Ah well....

 

[j-mac]

Are trump's policies threatening the loss of a large constituency?​

No, because you dumbasses can’t stop stepping on your dicks.

 

[justoffal]

Thune needs to change the senate rule to allow simple majorities to pass appropriations bills.

Tariffs gain $400b a year, that is financial genius. If the farmers need $10b to make them whole, no problem.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-explores-bailout-of-at-least-10-billion-for-u-s-farmers-258d2975

Trump Explores Bailout of at Least $10 Billion for U.S. Farmers​

Agree with this

 

[berg80]

Are trump's policies threatening the loss of a large constituency?​

No, because you dumbasses can’t stop stepping on your dicks.

Gratuitous insults aren't going to assuage the anger farmers have towards trump who, once again, is permanently hurting their businesses in favor of imposing tariffs largely paid for by American consumers.

 

[j-mac]

Gratuitous insults aren't going to assuage the anger farmers have at trump who, once again, is permanently hurting their businesses in favor of imposing tariffs largely paid for by American consumers.

Popular vote + Electoral College + ALL Swing States…Let that sink in dullard.

 

[justoffal]

AI Overview

Reports and industry analysis from 2025 indicate that many U.S. soybean farmers have permanently lost a significant portion of their market share in China due to tariffs imposed during the Trump administration's trade disputes. While China remains an important customer, the market share lost has largely shifted to South American competitors and may never be fully recovered.

It's called competition.....

South American farmers are well organized and dedicated to their trade.

Is there some reason they don't deserve to make a living?

 

[justoffal]

Gratuitous insults aren't going to assuage the anger farmers have at trump who, once again, is permanently hurting their businesses in favor of imposing tariffs largely paid for by American consumers.

Yeah....the half dozen or so paid complainers aren't going to swing anything.

 

[Hafar1014]

Gratuitous insults aren't going to assuage the anger farmers have at trump who, once again, is permanently hurting their businesses in favor of imposing tariffs largely paid for by American consumers.

Everything is better under Trump and the nation is aware of that

 

[justoffal]

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AI is wrong. Total 2024 Federal revenue is $4.9T per the CBO. $350b is 7% of $4,900b.

Don't forget ....AI is only as good as the people who input it's data sources. It too can be jaded.

 

[justoffal]

Everything is better under Trump and the nation is aware of that

Ohhhhhhhh! Now you've gone and done it!!
You hurt his widdo feewins.

 

[Thinker101]

Are trump's policies threatening the loss of a large constituency?​

Absolutely, Democrats are losing constituency in droves.

 

[berg80]

Popular vote + Electoral College + ALL Swing States…Let that sink in dullard.

No one denies Dotard's ability to dupe people in to voting against their self interests. Or to dupe people in to voting for a convicted criminal and moral degenerate. However, many voters who were convinced he would end inflation and stop the war in Ukraine have figured out they were conned. Which is why his approval rating is in the area of -15.

 

[berg80]

Are trump's policies threatening the loss of a large constituency?​

Absolutely, Democrats are losing constituency in droves.

You're saying Dotard's tariff policies which are hurting farmers are causing voters to turn away from Dem's?