Trump's tariffs leading to welfare farming

[Unkotare]

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Although from my research it's not particularly good for humans to consume. In fact soybean products in general are considered to be rather unhealthy for consumption.
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The area of the world with the greatest population is where the most soybean products are consumed every day.

 

[justoffal]

The area of the world with the greatest population is where the most soybean products are consumed every day.

India, China....

 

[Zincwarrior]

Other markets will emerge....
Other uses will be found for the products.....
The trade off is a significant reduction in the national debt which will benefit everyone including those mentioned farmers.

Progress always comes with sacrifice.

So literal welfare.

 

[Winston]

China needs America more than we need them

This is war

And the innocent always suffer

But farmers always suffer

When the weather is good the field price of their crop goes down due to over supply

When the weather is bad the price goes up but they have little or no crop to sell

Trump wants America to make things in America

Libs simply cannot understand why trade with china is bad

If Trump wants to bring manufacturing back he sure as hell is doing a piss poor job of it.

All Employees, Manufacturing

Graph and download economic data for All Employees, Manufacturing (MANEMP) from Jan 1939 to Jan 2026 about headline figure, establishment survey, manufacturing, employment, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

 

[sartre play]

Look, I have already explained to you. Those tariffs placed on American goods are RETALIATORY tariffs. I mean I understand, English is not your first language but you really should invest in a dictionary, or at least Google words you don't understand.

Until Trump came along, China did not have a tariff on American soybeans. But in his first administration he started a trade war with China and HE ******* LOST. Biden failed to negotiate the removal of those tariffs. Soybean farmers have now suffered through seven years of tariffs in China on their imports. They have lost billions of dollars in sales.


Seven years of tariffs on Chinese imports have led to retaliation and diminished U.S. exports to China that are conservatively worth $160 billion and as much as $201 billion, based on my analysis of U.S. Census Bureau data.

U.S. Exports to China Lost To 7-Year Trump-Biden Tariffs: $160 Billion

U.S. exports to China would likely have been $160 billion to $201 billion greater without the seven-year Trump-Biden trade war.

www.forbes.com

And no, Chinese citizens are not paying those tariffs. China is just not buying American soybeans. They get them from Brazil now. American farmers have probably lost the Chinese soybean market forever. And let me teach you a little something. I doubt you would know a soybean field if you drove by it. My family raised soybeans, hundreds of acres. It was a five crop in two years rotation. Spring corn, fall soybeans, winter wheat, spring soybeans, fall corn. And there is a reason for that. Soybeans actually put nitrogen back into the soil. It is a vital component to soil management.

You Trumpsters are so simple minded, and absolutely clueless. When Trump places a tariff on a country's imports sometimes, many times, they retaliate. Again, please look up the definition of that word. It appears you don't understand it. And no one in the Trump administration thought this shit through. When retaliatory tariffs are placed on American products it makes products from other countries more competitive. Like Brazil's soybeans. But hell, take something simple, like Kentucky bourbon, do you have any idea of how many distillers are declaring bankruptcy because they have lost their export market? Do you know how much Kentucky bourbon is sold in Toronto now? ******* ZERO. They refuse to buy.

Not an area where most of us have any expertise. Am enjoying the exchange of information.
Only have one real unrelated? problem, WHY are we throwing hate on our closest neighbors? Why hate Canada or Mexico?

 

[sartre play]

Do you really think the USA has not practised welfare farming for decades at the least?

Go look up old history, When the big money guys changed the planting of farmers,
by not allowing them to use their own seeds.

 

[Dekster]

Price supports have been welfare for farmers for much longer than I have been alive.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Other markets will emerge....
Other uses will be found for the products.....
The trade off is a significant reduction in the national debt which will benefit everyone including those mentioned farmers.

Progress always comes with sacrifice.

Tariffs are having no impact on the debt.

The deficit is projected to be $2 Trillion this year, an increase over last year.

WW

 

[Mac-7]

If Trump wants to bring manufacturing back he sure as hell is doing a piss poor job of it.

All Employees, Manufacturing

Graph and download economic data for All Employees, Manufacturing (MANEMP) from Jan 1939 to Jan 2026 about headline figure, establishment survey, manufacturing, employment, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

Its not an easy thing to do

But well worth the effort

 

[justoffal]

Its not an easy thing to do

But well worth the effort

It is a very big loss to lose local ownership of a durable goods manufacturing business.
As a kid growing up in an industrial town it never took more that a few hours to get hired.

 

[justoffal]

Tariffs are having no impact on the debt.

The deficit is projected to be $2 Trillion this year, an increase over last year.

WW

It is a multi cause effect.....Taríffs are a beginning.
It sure as hell wasn't working the other way.

So yes they have a deleterious effect also in some ways.....like fitting an obese person through a narrow doorway....it works better after he loses weight. Some philosophize...since he doesn't fit he might as well keep getting bigger.

 

[Stryder50]

Hey, dumbshit, they are called "retaliatory tariffs".

Increases due to new USA tariffs might be called that,
BUT tariffs that were in place prior would have been punative.

 

[marvin martian]

The chickens are coming home to roost across the heartland of America. As harvest season approaches, our farmers, many of them Trump voters, are looking at a nonexistent market for their crops, especially corn and soybeans as a result of Trump's self imposed trade war.
There is moneÿ built into the budget bill to provide assistance (welfare) to farmers to compensate for the lost revenue from the crops they can't sell so that may save some from bankruptcy. Still, here we go with another case of Trump's rhetoric about "making America Great Again" not matching the reality of the results of his incompetent policies.

Tariffs are hurting farmers​

Brown said one issue that rounds out all the problems farmers are facing: tariffs.

“I think the tariffs are the ice cream on the cake of a perfect storm,” said Brown. “When you try and sell a product, okay, U.S. soybeans leaving New Orleans without the tariff to China are cheaper than Brazilian soybeans, at the current market. But when you put the tariff on top of them, Brazilian beans are cheaper.”

What can be done to help farmers?

“In the short term, they have no choice but to mail us a check,” said Brown. “I don’t know a farmer that likes the check program. Nobody wants to take the taxpayer dollars, but nobody wants to go broke, nobody wants to lose everything. Long term, we have to have options, markets, and places to sell our product.”

‘I have never been as worried as I am now’: Arkansas farmers gather to share concerns

Hundreds of farmers gathered in Brookland to speak with representatives of Arkansas leaders to share with them their urgent plight: the difficulties they face in farming today.

www.kait8.com

U.S. producers of corn and soybeans have sent dire warnings as prices for their crops have crashed in recent years while President Donald Trump’s trade war whipsaws farmers.

On Thursday, the National Corn Growers Association raised alarms about “the economic crisis hitting rural America, as commodity prices drop at a time when input costs remain at near-record highs.”

Corn prices have plunged more than 50% from their 2022 peak, while production costs are down just 3% in that span, translating to a loss of 85 cents per bushel, the NCGA said, adding that the outlook for next year is worse with even lower prices and higher costs.

The NCGA called on Congress and the Trump administration to boost demand, including via higher blends of ethanol and increased foreign market access.

A week before that, the American Soybean Association sent a letter to Trump, warning that “U.S. soybean farmers are standing at a trade and financial precipice.”

Rural America is suffering an economic crisis as crop prices plunge — 'U.S. soybean farmers cannot survive a prolonged trade dispute' | Fortune

"Prices continue to drop and at the same time our farmers are paying significantly more for inputs and equipment."

fortune.com

^^^Look at the lefties sucking Big Ag dick, just like they suck Big Pharma dick.

The left will do anything to keep their slaves.

 

[MagicMike]

^^^Look at the lefties sucking Big Ag dick, just like they suck Big Pharma dick.

The left will do anything to keep their slaves.

So is your position on this "**** American farmers---let them eat cake?"

 

[justoffal]

So is your position on this "**** American farmers---let them eat cake?"

The farmers will make more money this way....
They always do.

They can re-tool.... Or wait for the product to find a new market.

The Feds have their back one way or another.

 

[MagicMike]

Progress always comes with sacrifice.

That sounds like a WONDERFUL campaign slogan for Republican congressional candidates next year!
Yeah, go with that.

 

[justoffal]

That sounds like a WONDERFUL campaign slogan for Republican congressional candidates next year!
Yeah, go with that.

It's a terrible campaign slogan for anyone.
The American voter is the least politically educated voter on the planet. They vote their wallets almost 100% of the time. They will do so again if Trump doesn't figure out high grocery prices.

 

[justoffal]

So literal welfare.

More or less

 

[Clipper]

Hey stupid, the only complaint in your link about tariffs is the ones farmers pay other countries.

Trump doesn't set the tariff rate in other countries, moron.


THREAD FAIL!

China is no longer buying soybeans from U.S. farmers, CLOWN. Got it?

Now, the same poor bastards who supported that idiot MAGA leader have to kiss his ass for a handout to save their sorry asses after he fucked them, just like he did during his first term. I mean how stoooopid could anyone be, voting for the same asshole who screwed them over before?

Welfare farmer moms & dads begging for a handout.

 

[Clipper]

If Trump wants to bring manufacturing back he sure as hell is doing a piss poor job of it.

All Employees, Manufacturing

Graph and download economic data for All Employees, Manufacturing (MANEMP) from Jan 1939 to Jan 2026 about headline figure, establishment survey, manufacturing, employment, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

Trump is screwing farmers so that they have to go him, hat in hand begging for a handout. And they will & when they do you can bet your last dollar that he'll demand something in return, even though he's the one who screwed them in the first place. Then he'll brag every time he runs his yap how he saved U.S. farms.

The guy is a sociopath.