Are all of Biden’s pardons that were autopenned signed INVALID?

[Marener]

But see, I think the cotus actually defines it for us. It says pardoned for "offenses committed against the United States"...that pretty much implies that someone jas committed an offense and the way they determine the offense was committed is by trial and conviction.

Until you are convicted, you have not been adjudicated to have committed and offense, only alleged that you did.

I think the text actually spells it out

If they wanted someone to have been convicted, they would have said convictions. Not offenses.

The pardon power grants the president the authority to determine what offenses have been pardoned.

 

[Marener]

So you are admitting that they did, in fact, commit chargeable offenses. Thanks for that hypocrite.

Nope. Innocent people receive pardons. A pardon is not an admission of guilt.

What is required, by the constitution, from the POTUS to enact a law? That's right. A SIGNATURE. That seems to be the requirement for law. Stands to reason it would carry to any LAWFUL ORDER that the POTUS would put in place. When you twist yourself out of that pretzel, it may become clear.

Any lawful order? Like an order to declassify information!

 

[Marener]

Pardons are for criminals
What crimes did jan 6 committee commit.
What offences did fauci schiff, cheney and hunter commit?
Your putting the cart before the horse.
Can't have a pardon without the crime.

Can a president pardon an innocent person?

 

[Nostra]

Whatever the president says they’re pardoned for.

What offenses against the United States did Biden list in his pardons?

 

[Nostra]

Can a president pardon an innocent person?

No.

 

[Marener]

His statement seems to indicate that biden didn't know about it...at least at the time.

Certainly it needs to be looked into.

So Trump has officially declared that to be true.

Good to know that presidents can now revoke the actions of other presidents by making such a declaration.

 

[ThisIsMe]

If they wanted someone to have been convicted, they would have said convictions. Not offenses.

The pardon power grants the president the authority to determine what offenses have been pardoned.

OK, so we can agree, at least, that one must have at least committed an offense, correct?

In the cotus, it says offenses "committed" meaning, things that HAD been done.

In bidens pardon of the J6 committee, there hasn't been any offenses that have been "committed" that we know of, right?

 

[Nostra]

You asked what offenses they committed. It’s a phony question because I never said they committed any offenses.

If you want to ask what he pardoned them for, the answer was given to other people. The answer is any and all offenses.

Now that I answered your question, tell me if the president has to sign official documents to declassify information.

What are the “any and all offenses” against the United States?

 

[konradv]

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/chrome-capture-2025-3-17.jpeg?quality=75&strip=all

How hilarious would this be?

Trump says Biden’s autopen pardons are ‘void, vacant and of no further force or effect,’ vows probe of Jan. 6 House select committee

President Trump claims pardons made by Biden in the last minutes of his presidency have been “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT” since the former commander-in-chief used “Autopen.”…

nypost.com

If none of the pardons of valid, some of these bad actors are in deep doody.

Adam Schiff? Hunter? Fauci?

Suggesting anything was done behind Biden’s back is ridiculous. Joe should do a “Do you miss me yet?“ event!

 

[imawhosure]

Who could you find that has a case against anyone that was pardoned?

Anyone they damaged. OJ won his trial, but lost all of his assets to the Goldman family in a civil action.

And so.............if you think Hunter couldn't have his financial clock cleaned.........seeing how much the WHOLE JURY POOL LOVES HIM FOR HIS ACTIONS during the Biden Administration.........then you really are out of touch, hehehehehehe!

But, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know if it is doable, and I freely admit it. Unlike (cough-cough) others on here who project to make a debate point, I will not until a lawyer tells me that yes, it can be done!

Oh, and just so everyone knows, if lawyers say that it can happen, I will be writing all of Hunters baby mammas, his art purchasers, President Trump, and anybody who got hosed by Bidens brother in his hospital scam.

 

[Modern Messiah]

Can a president pardon an innocent person?

No. You can't pardon somebody if they haven't committed a crime. If there is no crime then there is no need for a pardon.

 

[Marener]

No.

So Michael Flynn was guilty?

 

[konradv]

Anyone they damaged. OJ won his trial, but lost all of his assets to the Goldman family in a civil action.

And so.............if you think Hunter couldn't have his financial clock cleaned.........seeing how much the WHOLE JURY POOL LOVES HIM FOR HIS ACTIONS during the Biden Administration.........then you really are out of touch, hehehehehehe!

But, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know if it is doable, and I freely admit it. Unlike (cough-cough) others on here who project to make a debate point, I will not until a lawyer tells me that yes, it can be done!

Oh, and just so everyone knows, if lawyers say that it can happen, I will be writing all of Hunters baby mammas, his art purchasers, President Trump, and anybody who got hosed by Bidens brother in his hospital scam.

Hunter would countersue for harassment and win.

 

[Marener]

No. You can't pardon somebody if they haven't committed a crime. If there is no crime then there is no need for a pardon.

Are innocent people ever prosecuted or convicted?

 

[Marener]

What are the “any and all offenses” against the United States?

I don’t know. It doesn’t matter. Any offense you can identify, it’s pardoned.

 

[imawhosure]

Hunter would countersue for harassment and win.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that was a wasted post on your part-)

 

[konradv]

No. You can't pardon somebody if they haven't committed a crime. If there is no crime then there is no need for a pardon…

…unless the incoming president is a fascist, then it’s mandatory.

 

[Marener]

OK, so we can agree, at least, that one must have at least committed an offense, correct?

In thread cotus, it says offenses "committed" meaning, things that HAD been done.

In bidens pardon of the J6 committee, there hasn't been any offenses that have been "committed" that we know of, right?

“That we know of”. The constitution doesn’t say that we have to know of the offense.

 

[Nostra]

I don’t know. It doesn’t matter.

Sure it does. Offenses against the United States is a requirement for a pardon, according to the Constitution.

 

[j-mac]

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/chrome-capture-2025-3-17.jpeg?quality=75&strip=all

How hilarious would this be?

Trump says Biden’s autopen pardons are ‘void, vacant and of no further force or effect,’ vows probe of Jan. 6 House select committee

President Trump claims pardons made by Biden in the last minutes of his presidency have been “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT” since the former commander-in-chief used “Autopen.”…

nypost.com

If none of the pardons of valid, some of these bad actors are in deep doody.

Adam Schiff? Hunter? Fauci?

Ooops!