Are all of Biden’s pardons that were autopenned signed INVALID?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What are the crimes against the United States, skipper, that are being pardoned?

Federal crimes. Murder is not a federal crime in almost every case.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

When you're not defining the crimes and simply cover all behavior by an individual for a defined length of time, you're granting immunity.

And I don't care what you call it.

Well, you should because that is what the law calls it. Thank you for your concern but relax.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

See i think that goes against the spirit of the cotus. You shouldn't be able to blanket pardon someone for unknown crimes. What if that person had committed some serious crimes during that time.

Still, that's the one time I can think of where this was used. Certainly not "all the time"

They can be prosecuted by the state. A federal pardon does not absolve state crimes. Hunter can still go to jail for state tax evasion for example.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Bidens are open ended. He is pardoning someone who hasn't even been charged yet

No. You are incorrect. His pardons were for crimes against the United States during a specific period of time. No one had to be charged to be pardoned.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Pardons are for criminals
What crimes did jan 6 committee commit.
What offences did fauci schiff, cheney and hunter commit?
Your putting the cart before the horse.
Can't have a pardon without the crime.

Wrong. Your assumption is just plain wrong.

 

[konradv]

That is EXACTLY what Stalin said after the defeat of Hitler, proclaiming he was still alive, even as he had his body and knew it.

You people really have to try a new narrative, lol. This one is to now to easy to deflect with what everything everyone said on the internet-)

COMRADE konrad insists---------->Hitler is alive, lol. Nope, but we can see by your actions and words---------->a close facsimile to Stalin is!

You’re insane! Oh right, I forgot, MAGA.

 

[BluesLegend]

That's a precise way to describe it. This crap HAS to go to SCOTUS.

Granting immunity is the purview of the Judicial branch not the executive branch.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No. You can't pardon somebody if they haven't committed a crime. If there is no crime then there is no need for a pardon.

Nope. Wrong assumption.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Constitution doesn’t place any limits they would stop him from doing so.

The president decides when a pardon is needed. In this case, Biden knew it was needed to prevent Trump’s DoJ from engaging in partisan persecution of their perceived enemies.

so biden absolved them of any crimes they may have, and probably did commit, and you think this is what the power of the pardon was intended for?

It's not. The J6 committe had not been alleged to have committed a offense against the united states, they are alleged to have committed a crime against trump.

The presidential pardon power doesn't apply to any and all crimes, only to federal crimes against the united states. What J6 is alleged to have done wouldn't be a federal crime.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

He shall have the power to grant pardons for offenses against the united states. If there is no offense....there is no pardon..

Wrong. Your reasoning is in error. Otherwise, Nixon's pardon by Jerry Ford would not have been valid as he was never charged with a crime.

 

[ThisIsMe]

They can be prosecuted by the state. A federal pardon does not absolve state crimes. Hunter can still go to jail for state tax evasion for example.

What if it was a serious crime against the US. That's what I'm getting at

 

[Marener]

so biden absolved them of any crimes they may have, and probably did commit, and you think this is what the power of the pardon was intended for?

It's not. The J6 committe had not been alleged to have committed a offense against the united states, they are alleged to have committed a crime against trump.

The presidential pardon power doesn't apply to any and all crimes, only to federal crimes against the united states. What J6 is alleged to have done wouldn't be a federal crime.

If it isn’t a federal crime, it’s not pardoned. What alleged crime isn’t a federal crime?

 

[ThisIsMe]

No. You are incorrect. His pardons were for crimes against the United States during a specific period of time. No one had to be charged to be pardoned.

What crimes against the federal government did the J6 committee commit?

 

[Blisterfinger]

Where does the constitution say he needs to sign them?

How do we know he even signed it? Are you saying he doesn't have to? Why are you always wrong, your credibility really sucks.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

so biden absolved them of any crimes they may have, and probably did commit, and you think this is what the power of the pardon was intended for?

It's not. The J6 committe had not been alleged to have committed a offense against the united states, they are alleged to have committed a crime against trump.

The presidential pardon power doesn't apply to any and all crimes, only to federal crimes against the united states. What J6 is alleged to have done wouldn't be a federal crime.

Well, it would not be a state crime, so what is it?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What crimes against the federal government did the J6 committee commit?

I don't know, and neither do you, but in any case, they are pardoned for a specific period of time listed in their pardon.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why is signing it so important? The constitution doesn’t say anything about that.

You need to understand the definition and meaning of the word "forgery".

 

[Marener]

How do we know he even signed it? Are you saying he doesn't have to? Why are you always wrong, your credibility really sucks.

Where does the constitution say he has to sign it?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Wrong. Your reasoning is in error. Otherwise, Nixon's pardon by Jerry Ford would not have been valid as he was never charged with a crime.

But with nixon there was a crime. No conviction , but there was a crime

 

[imawhosure]

You’re insane! Oh right, I forgot, MAGA.

That is your response? Not------>why did Stalin say that, or I am not Stalin like, or did he really have Hitlers body?

See, you people aren't inquisitive at all, you have your DNC marching orders, and damn the torpedo's, full speed ahead, lol.

I just want to see how many of you people are still here if/when, Trump dries up your funding, hehehehehe. I have a feeling, that if he dries it up, the USMB community is going to be shocked on who/and how many, disappear-)