Appeal to the President.

[NYcarbineer]

Obama has never "come clean" on anything. He has never released records of his birth. He has never released his transcripts from college and law school. He has never adequately explained his relationship to his chicago cronies. His modus vivendi has been to stonewall and attack. I suspect even where there was nothing there he will still do that.
He will not come clean on this issue but will put up the drawbridge and attack this as a) a non-issue, b) a figment of right wing nutjob imagininations, c) the acts of anti americans against their CinC in wartime, etc etc.

Well, I guess my first post in this thread was on the right track wasn't it...

 

[The Rabbi]

Why I am still waiting for the right to present their "proof"?

As they said before the blue dress came out.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I know that Obama has people monitoring the net so hopefully they will come across this and urge action by the parties involved. I don't think they read posts in the flame zone so don't stick this there.

Mr. President. For the sake of your Presidency, your country and the American people...please clear the air on the Sestak job offer. I understand you have an army of lawyers going over every single word over and over, spinning excuses and counter-arguments to challenges that are sure to come but right now we need to silence the extremist rhetoric that's being propagated over the airwaves. Talk of bribes, impeachment and corruption are NOT conducive to having the support of the American people for your Presidency or your political party. I urge you to clear the air on this whole matter and let the chips fall where they may.

Personally I don't support many of your programs but I know you will act with integrity and honor. I'll be the first to support you if you tell the damn truth!!!!
In your heart you know what you did. Now man up!!!!!

So if the president simply denies any wrongdoing, you will accept that? Based on your knowledge that he has integrity and honor?

btw, when you say you'll support him if he tells the truth...

...how, exactly do you know what the truth is?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why I am still waiting for the right to present their "proof"?

As they said before the blue dress came out.

Your assumption of guilty until proven innocent is un-American.

 

[hjmick]

Wow, this thread was Godwin-ed in only twelve posts. By no means a record, but impressive nonetheless...

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I know that Obama has people monitoring the net so hopefully they will come across this and urge action by the parties involved. I don't think they read posts in the flame zone so don't stick this there.

Mr. President. For the sake of your Presidency, your country and the American people...please clear the air on the Sestak job offer. I understand you have an army of lawyers going over every single word over and over, spinning excuses and counter-arguments to challenges that are sure to come but right now we need to silence the extremist rhetoric that's being propagated over the airwaves. Talk of bribes, impeachment and corruption are NOT conducive to having the support of the American people for your Presidency or your political party. I urge you to clear the air on this whole matter and let the chips fall where they may.

Personally I don't support many of your programs but I know you will act with integrity and honor. I'll be the first to support you if you tell the damn truth!!!!
In your heart you know what you did. Now man up!!!!!

So if the president simply denies any wrongdoing, you will accept that? Based on your knowledge that he has integrity and honor?

btw, when you say you'll support him if he tells the truth...

...how, exactly do you know what the truth is?

If what he says is acceptable legal proof and counters Sestak's allegation that he was offered a job in lieu of dropping out of the Senate race against Specter YES!!!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

I know that Obama has people monitoring the net so hopefully they will come across this and urge action by the parties involved. I don't think they read posts in the flame zone so don't stick this there.

Mr. President. For the sake of your Presidency, your country and the American people...please clear the air on the Sestak job offer. I understand you have an army of lawyers going over every single word over and over, spinning excuses and counter-arguments to challenges that are sure to come but right now we need to silence the extremist rhetoric that's being propagated over the airwaves. Talk of bribes, impeachment and corruption are NOT conducive to having the support of the American people for your Presidency or your political party. I urge you to clear the air on this whole matter and let the chips fall where they may.

Personally I don't support many of your programs but I know you will act with integrity and honor. I'll be the first to support you if you tell the damn truth!!!!
In your heart you know what you did. Now man up!!!!!

So if the president simply denies any wrongdoing, you will accept that? Based on your knowledge that he has integrity and honor?

btw, when you say you'll support him if he tells the truth...

...how, exactly do you know what the truth is?

If what he says is acceptable legal proof and counters Sestak's allegation that he was offered a job in lieu of dropping out of the Senate race against Specter YES!!!!

Proving a negative is not the burden of proof for the administration. How would you prove quid pro quo didn't happen? Specifically? Other than people simply denying it.

Sestak is well qualified for the job he claims he was offered, btw. The burden of proof is on him, and based on his relentless refusal to offer specifics, there isn't much if any proof to go on.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

So if the president simply denies any wrongdoing, you will accept that? Based on your knowledge that he has integrity and honor?

btw, when you say you'll support him if he tells the truth...

...how, exactly do you know what the truth is?

If what he says is acceptable legal proof and counters Sestak's allegation that he was offered a job in lieu of dropping out of the Senate race against Specter YES!!!!

Proving a negative is not the burden of proof for the administration. How would you prove quid pro quo didn't happen? Specifically? Other than people simply denying it.

Sestak is well qualified for the job he claims he was offered, btw. The burden of proof is on him, and based on his relentless refusal to offer specifics, there isn't much if any proof to go on.

Please post a link to Sestak saying the job he was offered and who offered it. That is the $64,000 question. When those people are deposed or have to testify before a Congressional panel and a decision is rendered on the legality of the whole thing I will support the decision whether it exonerates everyone or causes Obama's impeachment.

 

[jillian]

Look. Every sound bite right now include words like "bribe" "impeachment" and a host of others....I may not be an Obamabot like VaWanker and not support a euro-socialist democracy but I do support the rule of law and I wil be the first to defend Obama if it turns out nothing happened....but the seditionist, alarmist talk over the airwaves, although protected by the 1st Amendment, is really getting out of hand and will not stop until the air is cleared...it's unfortunate but some are being easily swayed by this stuff...and public sentiment will not be with Obama the longer he lets this simmer.

i understand what you're saying. and i think at some point soon there will be a response, particularly because people like ed rendell are asking that it be cleared up so nothing else distracts from the senate race.

but the seditionist losers will never be quiet. they haven't been quiet since november 2008. at some point, you have to not give a rat's patoot what the loons say and tell them to kiss your butt...

and you can tell them what i tell my son when he gets out of hand... and what i've told him since he was little....

i don't negotiate with terrorists.

that's a joke, btw

 

[boedicca]

but the seditionist losers will never be quiet.

I call Shenanigans.

Since when did critique of an Administration's secrecy become Sedition?

I have noticed that the Left is spreading the Sedition Meme lately. It's an intellectually bankrupt maneuver.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why I am still waiting for the right to present their "proof"?

As they said before the blue dress came out.

Your assumption of guilty until proven innocent is un-American.

Innocent until proven guilty is a standard of criminal court. We aren't talking about a criminal case here, although that might come down the line. We are talking about "high crimes and misdemeanors."

 

[VaYank5150]

As they said before the blue dress came out.

Your assumption of guilty until proven innocent is un-American.

Innocent until proven guilty is a standard of criminal court. We aren't talking about a criminal case here, although that might come down the line. We are talking about "high crimes and misdemeanors."

We AREN'T? Weren't you onoe of the parrots that was telling me a law was broken a little further up in this thread?

 

[jillian]

but the seditionist losers will never be quiet.

I call Shenanigans.

Since when did critique of an Administration's secrecy become Sedition?

I have noticed that the Left is spreading the Sedition Meme lately. It's an intellectually bankrupt maneuver.

call anything you want. patek used the phrase and he was correct.

take it up with him.

or do you want to tell patek he's a 'leftist'? I look forward to seeing how far that gets you.

maybe if you nutbars would stop talking about shedding the blood of tyrants, you'd hear less talk about sedition?

ya think??

 

[The Rabbi]

Your assumption of guilty until proven innocent is un-American.

Innocent until proven guilty is a standard of criminal court. We aren't talking about a criminal case here, although that might come down the line. We are talking about "high crimes and misdemeanors."

We AREN'T? Weren't you onoe of the parrots that was telling me a law was broken a little further up in this thread?

No, you're reading skills continue on a steady plane. As I mentioned, down the road there might be a criminal case to be made. But for now it is the court of public opinion. And no rules there.

 

[California Girl]

I can't wait to see these fuckin' clowns under oath about this at some point.

like bush/cheney after 9/11 or after they outed a CIA agent, you tard?

Sorry, mo chara, the 'Mom, he did it too' defense should not be acceptable - to ANY OF US - left or right. It's a pathetic attempt to justify bad behavior.

 

[tommywho70x]

I know that Obama has people monitoring the net so hopefully they will come across this and urge action by the parties involved. I don't think they read posts in the flame zone so don't stick this there.

Mr. President. For the sake of your Presidency, your country and the American people...please clear the air on the Sestak job offer. I understand you have an army of lawyers going over every single word over and over, spinning excuses and counter-arguments to challenges that are sure to come but right now we need to silence the extremist rhetoric that's being propagated over the airwaves. Talk of bribes, impeachment and corruption are NOT conducive to having the support of the American people for your Presidency or your political party. I urge you to clear the air on this whole matter and let the chips fall where they may.

Personally I don't support many of your programs but I know you will act with integrity and honor. I'll be the first to support you if you tell the damn truth!!!!

In your heart you know what you did. Now man up!!!!!

Obama will act with integrity and honor? The guy is a Chicago thug. He doesn't even know what those words mean.

whoa, just like calling him black when he is a mulatto, you insult the integrity and honor of chicago thugs when you call him that.

he was born on a plane somewhere over the pacific and settled in chicago after graduating school to exploit the crack, fudgepacking and party hack opportunities there.

 

[Terral]

Hi Patek:

... Mr. President. For the sake of your Presidency, your country and the American people...please ...

You have GOT to be kidding me! Obama is Illegal Alien Foreign National #1, according to his wife:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDHDfPNBME]Obama's Home Country Is "Kenya"[/ame]

Perhaps some of you can bring yourself to call this guy "Mr. President," but I am NOT counted among you. This Kenyan Foreign National makes me sick to my stomach ... and he only lies when his mouth is moving ...

GL,

Terral

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Well...he had the opportunity to respond when asked by Fox's Major Garrett. He chose to say he will respond when he get's around to it...

When you have to "craft a response" over the course of a few days AFTER you have already investigated yourself and FOUND NOTHING WRONG?????!!!!!

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE!!!!!!!!!!???????

 

[MIPS]

I can't wait to see these fuckin' clowns under oath about this at some point.

You bring the popcorn, I'll bring the beer 'cause I can't wait to see this federal gub'ment spectacle of worms dancing around the truth in front of a national audience either....... should make the mob hearings of the 1960's pale by comparison.

Dear Mr. Emanuel just remember ...

"I decline to answer that question because I honestly believe my answer would tend to incriminate Me and My Boss"

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Look. Every sound bite right now include words like "bribe" "impeachment" and a host of others....I may not be an Obamabot like VaWanker and not support a euro-socialist democracy but I do support the rule of law and I wil be the first to defend Obama if it turns out nothing happened....but the seditionist, alarmist talk over the airwaves, although protected by the 1st Amendment, is really getting out of hand and will not stop until the air is cleared...it's unfortunate but some are being easily swayed by this stuff...and public sentiment will not be with Obama the longer he lets this simmer.

i understand what you're saying. and i think at some point soon there will be a response, particularly because people like ed rendell are asking that it be cleared up so nothing else distracts from the senate race.

but the seditionist losers will never be quiet. they haven't been quiet since november 2008. at some point, you have to not give a rat's patoot what the loons say and tell them to kiss your butt...

and you can tell them what i tell my son when he gets out of hand... and what i've told him since he was little....

i don't negotiate with terrorists.

that's a joke, btw

Ya calling the opposition terrorists shows just how far up Obama's ass you are. And you and I both know it was no joke. You had ZERO problem with the seditious bullshit when it was Bush that was being attacked, in fact you have repeated some of it yourself, claiming he lied about Iraq, with out a shred of evidence. Even 3 Congressional Committees one run by Democrats have determined he did no such thing. You have claimed he stole at least one election, again without a shred of evidence.

None of that seems to have bothered you in the least, yet now you have a problem with people pointing out ACTUAL verifiable ILLEGAL activity possibly done BY the President and claim it is all lies.

PUT the KOOLAID DOWN.