Any Document Signed by Biden with Autopen is Terminated –

[Meathead]

Your fantasies are only valid until the end of your nose.

If only you had video of Biden admitting to your accusations, like we have of Trump.

If only.

 

[Foxfyre]

Trump has used auto pen. Where is the documentation of that?

Has he? Where is your documentation that he has?

Has Donald Trump ever officially used an autopen while...

Executive summary Available reporting shows repeated allegations and counterclaims about Donald Trump’s use of an autopen but no definitive, independentl...

factually.co

 

[CrazyTrader55]

The EO's done by autopen are going to be terminated and there's nothing the left can do about it. Hopefully a full investigation ensues, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[meaner gene]

The EO's done by autopen are going to be terminated and there's nothing the left can do about it. Hopefully a full investigation ensues, but I'm not holding my breath.

Let me buy you a clue. Any presidential Executive Order, can be countermanded by a proceeding Executive Order.

executive orders can be "thrown out" through several means:

By a new president

A sitting president can revoke, amend, or replace any executive order, including those from their predecessors, through a new executive order.

This is a common occurrence during presidential transitions, often referred to as the "pendulum effect," where incoming presidents reverse the policies of the previous administration.

 

[Delldude]

Let me buy you a clue. Any presidential Executive Order, can be countermanded by a proceeding Executive Order.

executive orders can be "thrown out" through several means:

By a new president

A sitting president can revoke, amend, or replace any executive order, including those from their predecessors, through a new executive order.

This is a common occurrence during presidential transitions, often referred to as the "pendulum effect," where incoming presidents reverse the policies of the previous administration.

Sounds wonderful but I'm pretty sure this is heading to SCOTUS.

 

[meaner gene]

Sounds wonderful but I'm pretty sure this is heading to SCOTUS.

I don't think the courts (any courts) would touch the issue of executive order signed by autopen.

Since the current president can affirm or rescind any previous executive order. Why would the courts weigh in on something that has a simple political solution.

 

[Delldude]

I don't think the courts (any courts) would touch the issue of executive order signed by autopen.

Since the current president can affirm or rescind any previous executive order. Why would the courts weigh in on something that has a simple political solution.

It's stepping on pardoning power.

 

[meaner gene]

It's stepping on pardoning power.

The pardon power is something the courts would have real trouble with. Since a presidential pardon doesn't even require the president sign it.
Pardons can be issued in any form, by anyone acting on instructions of the president.

President Lincoln's Secretary of State, William H. Seward, signed many of his pardons, often by countersigning documents that were first signed by Lincoln and then submitted for the affixing of the Great Seal of the United States. These official pardons provided clemency to individuals and were a part of Lincoln's broader use of his presidential power to grant pardons and show mercy.

 

[Delldude]

The pardon power is something the courts would have real trouble with.

That's what I was saying.

 

[meaner gene]

That's what I was saying.

What you didn't say is that by having real trouble with it, they would punt it out of court.
As in this case the courts have no remedy. Thus the plaintiffs have no right to take it to court.

 

[Nostra]

The pardon power is something the courts would have real trouble with. Since a presidential pardon doesn't even require the president sign it.
Pardons can be issued in any form, by anyone acting on instructions of the president.

President Lincoln's Secretary of State, William H. Seward, signed many of his pardons, often by countersigning documents that were first signed by Lincoln and then submitted for the affixing of the Great Seal of the United States. These official pardons provided clemency to individuals and were a part of Lincoln's broader use of his presidential power to grant pardons and show mercy.

So she signed docs previously signed by Lincoln?

And how is this the same as underlings using the auto pen without any direction from Biden?

 

[meaner gene]

So she signed docs previously signed by Lincoln?

No, he issued pardons based on papers that Lincoln signed.
The pardons did not bear Lincolns signature, but instead Seward signed Lincoln's name.

A human precursor to auto pen.

 

[meaner gene]

And how is this the same as underlings using the auto pen without any direction from Biden?

An accusation with no evidence

 

[Nostra]

No, he issued pardons based on papers that Lincoln signed.
The pardons did not bear Lincolns signature, but instead Seward signed Lincoln's name.

A human precursor to auto pen.

Well then, that is forgery.

Next?

 

[meaner gene]

Well then, that is forgery.

Next?

Yet all of those pardons were legal.
The courts accepted them.

NEXT!!!!

 

[Nostra]

Yet all of those pardons were legal.
The courts accepted them.

NEXT!!!!

They were never challenged. Tater’s are being challenged, Short Bus.

 

[meaner gene]

Well then, that is forgery.

Next?

No, courts did not reject any of Abraham Lincoln's pardons; rather, individuals sometimes rejected or failed to accept them, and the Supreme Court later upheld the principle that a pardon must be accepted to be valid

 

[Hafar1014]

They were never challenged. Tater’s are being challenged, Short Bus.

They havent been before the courts as forgeries yet

 

[Delldude]

What you didn't say is that by having real trouble with it, they would punt it out of court.

Won't know until the left freaks out, 'er I mean responds.

 

[meaner gene]

They were never challenged. Tater’s are being challenged, Short Bus.

The courts themselves challenge everything put before them.
That's why the courts threw out many of Rudy Guilianti's aaffadavids.