Zone1 Antisemites lie about Israel being an apartheid state

[Thethingsz]

And they don’t know the first thing about the Middle East.

It’s an age old primitive hatred.

Right

 

[JoeB131]

He also is missing that his criticism of Israel - spreading the U.N. Antisemitic lies - while ignoring the TRUE atrocities committed by Arab countries is a major tell that his double standards is motivated by hostility toward Jews.

Some of these leftists are so deluded that it’s possible he actually thinks he’s not antisemitic. It’s a hard thing for a leftist to admit when they are so adamantly opposed (they claim) to racism. It’s cognitive dissonance, and the response is just deny, deny, deny.

It's actually the opposite.

Any other country that engaged in the kind of behavior Israel does would be an international pariah, just like Apartheid South Africa was at the end of its existence.

 

[Thethingsz]

Neo nazis are protesting against... a fictitious "apartheid."
The bitter joke.

Hate united: Neo-Nazi accelerationist support for Hamas

Neo-Nazi accelerationists have been expressing support for Hamas since October 7, using antisemitism to recruit and radicalize followers.

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Neo-Nazi protestors in Germany call for Palestinian help against Israel | Christians United for Israel

Dozens of neo-Nazis marched through the German city of Dortmund on Monday, calling for Palestinian support to eradicate Israel. The demonstration, which came on the heels of an anti-fascist protest […]

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White supremacists, seizing on Israel-Hamas war, have accelerated their antisemitism since Oct. 7

By Andrew Lapin (JTA) – At a recent city council meeting in Evanston, Illinois, a man in dark sunglasses stepped up to the podium during the public comment period to accuse the Anti-Defamation Leag…

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[Thethingsz]

yes, you had sympathy until you did things that were far worse.

Hamas killed 1200 Israelis.

So far, the Israelis have killed ....

Here we go with the 'numbers games' which side lost more failed argument, and stats provided by Hamas.
The Arabs possess the most powerful weapons: human shields.
And the biggest lie is that the Arabs are "fighting back," as if they didn't initiate the killing over 100 years ago.
Scratch that:
Almost 200 years ago:

But of course the issue is what Palestine leadership aims to, and stopped by cool IDF. What would have happened if they were not stopped?

Their goal is like 1st PLO leader Ahmad Shukeiri's rare honest moment prior to 1967: "none of them will survive."

And as Hamas genocide charter clearly states.

Understanding Hamas’s Genocidal Ideology

A close read of Hamas’s founding documents clearly shows its intentions.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Thethingsz]

Number crunching again?

Lol

 

[Dogmaphobe]

He also is missing that his criticism of Israel - spreading the U.N. Antisemitic lies - while ignoring the TRUE atrocities committed by Arab countries is a major tell that his double standards is motivated by hostility toward Jews.

Some of these leftists are so deluded that it’s possible he actually thinks he’s not antisemitic. It’s a hard thing for a leftist to admit when they are so adamantly opposed (they claim) to racism. It’s cognitive dissonance, and the response is just deny, deny, deny.

It is a form of fundamentalism but takes a political form rather than religious.

It could just as easily be people ranting and raving that Satan put dinosaur bones on the Earth to fool us all as there is no desire to understand involved, only the repetition of the proscribed faith.

 

[georgephillip]

Much like they do with the “genocide” lie, antisemites accuse Israel of being an apartheid state while ignoring the non-Jewish countries that are. This falsehood is driven both by blatant Jew-hate as well as the desire to advance it.

THIS is what an apartheid state does:
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Are you denying the existence of apartheid in all the territory controlled by Israel?

"The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime.

"One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group – Jews – over another – Palestinians.

https://www.btselem.org/topic/apartheid

"B’Tselem rejects the perception of Israel as a democracy (inside the Green Line) that simultaneously upholds a temporary military occupation (beyond it).

"B’Tselem reached the conclusion that the bar for defining the Israeli regime as an apartheid regime has been met after considering the accumulation of policies and laws that Israel devised to entrench its control over Palestinians."

 

[Thethingsz]

Yea, B'tselem/ (HRW via that racist Arab Omar Shakir)... blah blah

Asking Grok about "human rights" groups, and did not mention Israel. How did Grok know to point to it?​

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FROM GROK:

Question:
What do you call the trend that one group just copies another's in political bias?

GROK:
The phenomenon you're describing—where opposing political groups end up adopting similar forms of bias, tactics, or behaviors despite their ideological differences—is most commonly referred to as the horseshoe theory.
This theory posits that the political spectrum isn't a straight line (with left and right as opposites) but bends like a horseshoe, bringing the extremes (far-left and far-right) closer together in practice. While their goals differ, the extremes often mirror each other in methods, such as authoritarian tendencies, intolerance of dissent, or biased reasoning that prioritizes ideology over facts.
A related but more specific tactic is accusation in a mirror (also called mirror politics or mirror propaganda), where one side accuses the other of exactly the flaws or actions they themselves exhibit or plan to commit. This creates a deliberate mirroring of perceived biases to deflect criticism or justify behavior.
These concepts highlight how polarization can lead groups to imitate each other's negative traits, even as they claim moral superiority.
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QUESTION:
I refer to "human rights" groups who sing in one tone copying one another when their motivation is biased towards one particular country.

GROK:
The phenomenon you're describing—where multiple "human rights" organizations issue highly similar criticisms, reports, or statements focused disproportionately or exclusively on violations by one particular country (often perceived as an adversary), while downplaying or ignoring comparable issues elsewhere—is commonly referred to as selective outrage or selective indignation.

This term captures the idea of inconsistent or partisan application of human rights standards, where advocacy appears motivated more by geopolitical, ideological, or cultural biases than by universal principles. Major organizations like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have faced repeated accusations of this, particularly for disproportionate focus on certain countries (e.g., Israel in UN and NGO reporting) while exhibiting relative silence on abuses in allied or powerful nations.

Related concepts include:

• Double standards in human rights monitoring: Applying scrutiny unevenly based on political alignments.​
• Echo chamber effect or pack journalism in advocacy: Groups reinforcing each other's narratives through similar framing, sourcing, or timing of reports, creating an amplified but homogenized "tone.​
• Halo effect: The tendency to uncritically accept claims from organizations branded as "human rights" defenders, shielding them from scrutiny even when their output shows patterns of selectivity.
  
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Critics argue this undermines credibility, turning advocacy into a tool for broader agendas rather than impartial defense of rights. Defenders often counter that focus reflects severity or access to information, though evidence of recurring patterns (e.g., agenda items singling out one country) supports claims of bias.
In essence, when groups "sing in one tone" on a targeted country, it often exemplifies selective outrage driven by shared biases.

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[Thethingsz]

That B'tselem rag..

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With ChatGPT
Q:
You admit that B'tselem advocates ONLY for Arabs (inside the green line or outside) or/and those who defend Arabs. Simply put, yes or no? Just a yes or no answer, without propagating for them.

A:
Yes.

 

[JoeB131]

Here we go with the 'numbers games' which side lost more failed argument, and stats provided by Hamas.
The Arabs possess the most powerful weapons: human shields.
And the biggest lie is that the Arabs are "fighting back," as if they didn't initiate the killing over 100 years ago.
Scratch that:
Almost 200 years ago:

Um, we aren't talking about 100 years ago or 200 years ago.

We are talking about Europeans establishing a colonial state in Palestine, and the indigenous people fighting back, which should surprise no one.

The problem is, Ashkenazi Jews are finally considered "White Enough" and are engaging in the worst behavior of Europeans, one that most white people are embarrassed about now.

Asking Grok about "human rights" groups, and did not mention Israel. How did Grok know to point to it?

If you are asking Grok (AKA MechaHitler) about anything, you probably don't know enough about the topic to be flapping your gums.

 

[Thethingsz]

Um, we aren't talking about 100 years ago or 200 years ago.

Who is "we?"
Fighting back to back . Arab killing never stopped..
Maybe "we" should ask info from "Wikipedia" when it comes to Israel?

Wikipedia founder slams 'Gaza Genocida' article | The Jerusalem Post

Jimmy Wales warned the "Gaza Genocide" article needed immediate attention, as it "failed to meet the neutrality standards of Wikipedia."

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Wikipedia blasted for ‘wildly inaccurate’ change to entry on Zionism: ‘Downright antisemitic’ (Washington Examiner) - Brandeis Center

Published by the Washington Examiner on 9/19/24 Wikipedia has come under fire after replacing its entry on Zionism, the idea that Jewish people have a right to self-determination and statehood in their ancestral homeland of Israel, with a “wildly inaccurate” description that characterizes...

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New ADL Report Finds Evidence of Biased, Coordinated Campaign on Wikipedia Related to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - Holocaust Remembrance Association

Published: 03.18.2025 ADL Anti-Israel and Antisemitic Bias and Manipulation of Content on Wikipedia Undermines the Platform’s Neutrality New York, NY, March 18, 2025, … Through an extensive investigation, ADL (Anti-Defamation League) Center for Technology and Society (CTS) researchers found...

holocaustremembranceassociation.org

 

[Dogmaphobe]

We are talking about Europeans establishing a colonial state in Palestine

Have you ever considered telling the truth?

 

[georgephillip]

Major organizations like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have faced repeated accusations of this, particularly for disproportionate focus on certain countries (e.g., Israel in UN and NGO reporting) while exhibiting relative silence on abuses in allied or powerful nations.

Name another allied or powerful nation currently engaged in attacking two neighboring countries (Lebanon and Syria) while committing ethnic cleansing, collective punishment, and genocide in another territory under its occupation (Gaza)

https://www.btselem.org/publications/202210_not_a_vibrant_democracy_this_is_apartheid

"Full political rights: for Jews only, in the entire area​

"All the Jewish citizens who live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea can fully participate in Israel’s general elections.

"They can vote, run for office and promote their agendas in various ways. They can be elected for parliament and serve as ministers.

"Currently, about 10% of all Jews living under the regime for which the elections are being held reside beyond the Green Line, in more than 200 settlements built throughout the West Bank.

"Thanks to the legal framework Israel instated, their right to political participation remains untouched despite living outside Israel’s sovereign territory, and they can vote and run for office like all Jewish citizens living west of the Green Line."

 

[Thethingsz]

: btselem.

That B'tselem rag..

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With ChatGPT
Q:
You admit that B'tselem advocates ONLY for Arabs (inside the green line or outside) or/and those who defend Arabs. Simply put, yes or no? Just a yes or no answer, without propagating for them.

A:
Yes.

 

[JoeB131]

Have you ever considered telling the truth?

What do I get wrong, other than hurting your tender sensibilities.

Take any Israeli leader since 1948, and you will find either someone who was born in Europe, or whose parents were.

 

[Thethingsz]

Take any Israeli leader since 1948, and you will find either someone who was born in Europe, or whose parents were.

So what? Take any Palestinian grandparents or another generation back. Ya think they are some mind of dinosaurs?
White/brown what's the difference?
Are you anti whites ?

 

[IM2]

Israel is basically an apartheid state. It is not anti Semitic to say so. Opposition to the right wing extremist government in Israel is not anti semitism.

 

[Lisa558]

It is a form of fundamentalism but takes a political form rather than religious.

It could just as easily be people ranting and raving that Satan put dinosaur bones on the Earth to fool us all as there is no desire to understand involved, only the repetition of the proscribed faith.

The key difference, though, is that if leftists were railing against Satan putting dinosaur bones on earth, it would not be inciting hatred, violence, and murder against a specific demographic.

But when the leftists target in on Israel, spreading lies about it, and we have them on college campuses chanting “Death to Jews!!”, and targeting innocent Jewish people (including a 10-year-old) to murder while out celebrating Hanukkah, we can see how their vicious anti-Jew lies are driving antisemitism up to a level not seen since Germany, circa 1938/39.

What scares me the most is that the Left is so tolerant of the hatred toward Jews, unwilling to condemn it, and in many cases (as you pointed out), actually SUPPORTING IT - and at the same time coming down hard on any slight that could be offensive to blacks, Muslims, or gays.

 

[alang1216]

So the world was sympathetic when Islamic savages broke into a Jewish kibbutz on the morning of a joyous Jewish holiday to stick infants in the oven, burn toddlers alive, and rape women while the bled out from the trauma - and saying they would keep doing it until every Jew was dead - and then turned on the Jews when they didn’t just lie down and take it, like good little Jews are supposed to do?

Golda Meir had it right “The world takes pity on us when we are victims, and hates us when we fight back.”

Hamas killed non-combatants, that was horrendous. Israel killed non-combatants, that too was horrendous. Self-defense has its limits.

 

[Thethingsz]

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You im2 are the one that posted racism against white people, yesterday , right ?
So do you hate Jews who are not brown more than any other whites?