Zone1 Antisemites lie about Israel being an apartheid state

[Hector12]

Can someone object to the policies of the State of Israel and not be labeled an anti-Semite?

Not easily. Anyone who has read the Old Testament and the Apocrypha knows that for the Jews possession of the land of Israel is as important as personal salvation is for the Christians.

Israel does what Israel must do to see that the Israelis prosper in a dangerous neighborhood.

 

[Hector12]

South Africa was the most powerful state in Africa, but Apartheid still had to end.

Why?

 

[Jroc]

Well, you rapid fire so many stupid ideas, that they all deserve their own special attention.


South Africa was the most powerful state in Africa, but Apartheid still had to end.


No, they go out and do the slaughtering, which makes them much less appealing. Again, no one cares about your sad childhood when we find dead hookers in your crawlspace.



Seems to me that living in the middle of millions of people who want to kill you isn't a smart survival strategy.



Because his definition was dishonest, and doesn't apply here.

This idiot is proof you can't reasonably talked to someone who has an inherited hatred of Jews generally. Which is why I don't do it in the other rooms, it's a waste of time plus that fact that he's slow can only comprehend one sentence at a time

 

[JoeB131]

They sure have tried to be, they’ve just failed and gotten beaten down in the early Palestinian invasion attempts, and now are outmatched intellectually largely because of their severely high levels of in-breeding over generation after generation

Um, no, guy. This is the way a Nazi would talk.

Talk to a 1930's Nazi, he'd make the same kinds of comments about Jews.

 

[JoeB131]

Not easily. Anyone who has read the Old Testament and the Apocrypha knows that for the Jews possession of the land of Israel is as important as personal salvation is for the Christians.

Israel does what Israel must do to see that the Israelis prosper in a dangerous neighborhood.

Okay.

It's the ******* 21st Century.

We have space shuttles and computers now.

Following a book of Bronze Age superstitions is kind of silly.

This idiot is proof you can't reasonably talked to someone who has an inherited hatred of Jews generally.

Um, I'm being perfectly reasonable. You are the one screaming like a maniac.

Which is why I don't do it in the other rooms, it's a waste of time plus that fact that he's slow can only comprehend one sentence at a time

Naw, each sentence you write is worthy of it's own mockery.

 

[Jroc]

Um, I'm being perfectly reasonable. You are the one screaming like a maniac.

Screaming? Please.. if I saw you in person I wouldn't be screaming.. this is the type of delusions you live under .. That's not my style ... nobody wanted to eliminate black South Africans , that analogy is a fallback for lazy idiots, but you German's certainly know about genocide and attempted elimination of a people dont you Joey? Jews don't sit back like sheep to be slaughtered anymore .I know thats the way you like it ...poor boy ... You just can't get Jews out of your little brain

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

The Arabs aren't the oppressors here.


Just ignoring you now.

Okay.

 

[alang1216]

Not easily. Anyone who has read the Old Testament and the Apocrypha knows that for the Jews possession of the land of Israel is as important as personal salvation is for the Christians.

Using religion to justify actions today is a dangerous precedent. Have we learned nothing from the Crusades?

Israel does what Israel must do to see that the Israelis prosper in a dangerous neighborhood.

Fine so long as their prosperity doesn't come at the expense of others.

 

[JoeB131]

Screaming? Please.. if I saw you in person I wouldn't be screaming.. this is the type of delusions you live under ..

No, you'd be using physical violence, you'd said that many times. This is how rational you are. "I'm going to beat up a senior citizen who disagrees with me!!!"

That's not my style ... nobody wanted to eliminate black South Africans ,

Actually, that's exactly what the Afrikaaners claimed when the resisted ending Apartheid. They thought they were all going to be "necklaced" (The tactic of putting a gasoline-soaked tire around someone's neck and lighting it on fire.)

Instead, when the ANC took power, they held "Truth and Reconcilation" committees, everyone apologized for what they did, and they got on with it.

that analogy is a fallback for lazy idiots, but you German's certainly know about genocide and attempted elimination of a people dont you Joey?

And the Zionists learned the wrong lessons from that.

Jews don't sit back like sheep to be slaughtered anymore .

No, they go out, pick fights, and wonder why they get slaughtered.

I know thats the way you like it ...poor boy ... You just can't get Jews out of your little brain

Naw, only about 10% of my posts are about Israel/Palestine.

 

[Hector12]

Okay.

It's the ******* 21st Century.

We have space shuttles and computers now.

Following a book of Bronze Age superstitions is kind of silly.

I use my computer to help me study the Bible.

 

[Hector12]

Using religion to justify actions today is a dangerous precedent. Have we learned nothing from the Crusades?

The Crusades were justified. The Muslims were persecuting Christians who wanted to visit the Holy Lands and worship God there.

 

[Jroc]

No, you'd be using physical violence, you'd said that many times. This is how rational you are. "I'm going to beat up a senior citizen who disagrees with me!!!"



Actually, that's exactly what the Afrikaaners claimed when the resisted ending Apartheid. They thought they were all going to be "necklaced" (The tactic of putting a gasoline-soaked tire around someone's neck and lighting it on fire.)

Instead, when the ANC took power, they held "Truth and Reconcilation" committees, everyone apologized for what they did, and they got on with it.


And the Zionists learned the wrong lessons from that.


No, they go out, pick fights, and wonder why they get slaughtered.


Naw, only about 10% of my posts are about Israel/Palestine.

Jews picked a fight with the third Reich? clown... no I don't pick fights with fat old man and I'm not much younger than you are ... Nobody was trying to eliminate black South Africans, that's not possible ,although thats not relevant here, what's going. On there now is quite the opposite , but you no doubt approve of that one.

The struggle here is between the barbarians, who hide behind women and children, who slaughter their own people in the streets, and Western Civilization. ..The western Europeans are losing in their part of the world because they've become weak and pathetic

 

[alang1216]

The Crusades were justified. The Muslims were persecuting Christians who wanted to visit the Holy Lands and worship God there.

Nothing is ever so simple. In essence, while the premise of defending persecuted Christians and reclaiming holy sites was central to the Crusades' justification for many medieval Europeans, modern historical analysis reveals a more complex interplay of religious fervor, political ambition, and territorial conflict.

 

[rosends]

Because his definition was dishonest, and doesn't apply here.

You didn't really just write this, did you? The guy who coined the word was dishonest? You want to use a word which means something different so you blame the word? That may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Nice work! I thought you hit rock bottom, but you kept digging!

 

[Hector12]

Nothing is ever so simple. In essence, while the premise of defending persecuted Christians and reclaiming holy sites was central to the Crusades' justification for many medieval Europeans, modern historical analysis reveals a more complex interplay of religious fervor, political ambition, and territorial conflict.

Please explain that "modern historical analysis."

The Crusades included one thing I do not like, which was persecution of Jews living in Europe. Jews were not responsible for Islamic persecution of Christians in the Holy Lands.

Another thing I do not like is that the Fourth Crusade was sidetracked to attack what remained of the Byzantine Empire.

That said, I am sorry that the Crusades did not end with permanent Christian occupation of the Holy Lands.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Nothing is ever so simple. In essence, while the premise of defending persecuted Christians and reclaiming holy sites was central to the Crusades' justification for many medieval Europeans, modern historical analysis reveals a more complex interplay of religious fervor, political ambition, and territorial conflict.

You extreme leftists whine about Jews expressing self-determination on a tiny little plot of land but are just fine with relentless Islamic conquest until it had eaten up half of the world.

"modern historical analysis", indeed.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Um, no, guy. This is the way a Nazi would talk.

Talk to a 1930's Nazi, he'd make the same kinds of comments about Jews.

I'm sure Militant, theocratic Muslim Arabs talked so respectfully of Jews throughout their history. Oh wait, we know they weren't...

Al-Sudais was preaching sermons calling the Jews the scum of the earth in the 2000's, also referring to them as subhuman apes and pigs.

So WTF are you talking about? This begs the question what you even think an "oppressor" is, because it appears to be yet another term the woke left has changed the definition into a vague smoke that they use and then from based on the context of the discussion... like "racist", "fascist", anything "phobic"... they all mean nothing anymore.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Um, no, guy. This is the way a Nazi would talk.

Talk to a 1930's Nazi, he'd make the same kinds of comments about Jews.

The truth of the matter is that Nazis hated Jews.



Just like you.

 

[Hector12]

You extreme leftists whine about Jews expressing self-determination on a tiny little plot of land but are just fine with relentless Islamic conquest until it had eaten up half of the world.

"modern historical analysis", indeed.

 

[alang1216]

Please explain that "modern historical analysis."

Modern historical analysis involves rigorous examination of evidence (documents, artifacts) to understand the past, focusing on context, change, cause/effect, complexity, and contingency, using new tools like digital humanities (AI for text recovery) and quantitative methods (statistics) while avoiding presentism (judging the past by today's values), all to build interpretations of historical patterns and why events unfolded as they did.

The Crusades included one thing I do not like, which was persecution of Jews living in Europe. Jews were not responsible for Islamic persecution of Christians in the Holy Lands.

Another thing I do not like is that the Fourth Crusade was sidetracked to attack what remained of the Byzantine Empire.

That said, I am sorry that the Crusades did not end with permanent Christian occupation of the Holy Lands.

Maybe. Christians exiled Jews from several countries at different times, while the Muslims tolerated them in Palestine.