Anti gunners...is this what you wanted when you banned gun magazines? Innocent people going to jail

[Skull Pilot]

No...that isn't true...

According to the CDC if you compare apples to apples...accidental deaths to deaths.....

2015

Cars 36,161
Guns 489

It isn't even close.....

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

you don't have a right to drive a car on a public thoroughfare. The state grants you that privilege and can take it away

No shit Sherlock

so then you admit that comparing cars to guns is stupid

Thank you

 

[Skull Pilot]

No...that isn't true...

According to the CDC if you compare apples to apples...accidental deaths to deaths.....

2015

Cars 36,161
Guns 489

It isn't even close.....

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

Ok, lets do that. Except, if I never take my car on public roads, I don't have to register it or have mandatory safety features. If I am on private property, no one needs a license to drive the car. And I can put it in a trailer and take it anywhere I want without having to do anything involving license, registration, insurance or safety features for that car.

Yes, Let's do the same with guns. You see, your false comparison assumes all the requirements for cars are based on owning them. No. It is based on operating them on public roads.

Ok

Keep your gun on your property

the pocket of my coat is my property as is the holster in my waistband

 

[WinterBorn]

No...that isn't true...

According to the CDC if you compare apples to apples...accidental deaths to deaths.....

2015

Cars 36,161
Guns 489

It isn't even close.....

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

Ok, lets do that. Except, if I never take my car on public roads, I don't have to register it or have mandatory safety features. If I am on private property, no one needs a license to drive the car. And I can put it in a trailer and take it anywhere I want without having to do anything involving license, registration, insurance or safety features for that car.

Yes, Let's do the same with guns. You see, your false comparison assumes all the requirements for cars are based on owning them. No. It is based on operating them on public roads.

Ok

Keep your gun on your property

Or transport it according to the legal guidelines. When I am going to the range or hunting, my guns are locked and not in reach of the driver (unless I am carrying my main CCW firearm). YOu said you want to do guns like we do cars. There is no requirement for me to keep an unregistered car on my property. I just have to transport it some way besides driving it on public roads.

 

[WinterBorn]

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

Ok, lets do that. Except, if I never take my car on public roads, I don't have to register it or have mandatory safety features. If I am on private property, no one needs a license to drive the car. And I can put it in a trailer and take it anywhere I want without having to do anything involving license, registration, insurance or safety features for that car.

Yes, Let's do the same with guns. You see, your false comparison assumes all the requirements for cars are based on owning them. No. It is based on operating them on public roads.

Ok

Keep your gun on your property

the pocket of my coat is my property as is the holster in my waistband

Damn! You beat me to it. I was headed there. I just thought I'd take the scenic route.

 

[rightwinger]

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

you don't have a right to drive a car on a public thoroughfare. The state grants you that privilege and can take it away

No shit Sherlock

so then you admit that comparing cars to guns is stupid

Thank you

Of course not
The state regulates your gun too

 

[martybegan]

No...that isn't true...

According to the CDC if you compare apples to apples...accidental deaths to deaths.....

2015

Cars 36,161
Guns 489

It isn't even close.....

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

Or we can regulate cars like they do guns in NYC, so you have to pay $600 or so in fees and wait 3-6 months to get you license.

That's all?

I pay more than that to register and insure my car

Did some bureaucrat make you wait 3-6 months to do it?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

you don't have a right to drive a car on a public thoroughfare. The state grants you that privilege and can take it away

No shit Sherlock

so then you admit that comparing cars to guns is stupid

Thank you

Of course not
The state regulates your gun too

No it doesn't. All I have to do is prove I'm legally eligible to buy a gun there is no regulation of the gun itself.

 

[rightwinger]

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

Ok, lets do that. Except, if I never take my car on public roads, I don't have to register it or have mandatory safety features. If I am on private property, no one needs a license to drive the car. And I can put it in a trailer and take it anywhere I want without having to do anything involving license, registration, insurance or safety features for that car.

Yes, Let's do the same with guns. You see, your false comparison assumes all the requirements for cars are based on owning them. No. It is based on operating them on public roads.

Ok

Keep your gun on your property

Or transport it according to the legal guidelines. When I am going to the range or hunting, my guns are locked and not in reach of the driver (unless I am carrying my main CCW firearm). YOu said you want to do guns like we do cars. There is no requirement for me to keep an unregistered car on my property. I just have to transport it some way besides driving it on public roads.

Specious argument ignoring the 99 percent of cars used on public roads
You ignore the functionality and purpose of autos

 

[Skull Pilot]

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

Ok, lets do that. Except, if I never take my car on public roads, I don't have to register it or have mandatory safety features. If I am on private property, no one needs a license to drive the car. And I can put it in a trailer and take it anywhere I want without having to do anything involving license, registration, insurance or safety features for that car.

Yes, Let's do the same with guns. You see, your false comparison assumes all the requirements for cars are based on owning them. No. It is based on operating them on public roads.

Ok

Keep your gun on your property

Or transport it according to the legal guidelines. When I am going to the range or hunting, my guns are locked and not in reach of the driver (unless I am carrying my main CCW firearm). YOu said you want to do guns like we do cars. There is no requirement for me to keep an unregistered car on my property. I just have to transport it some way besides driving it on public roads.

Specious argument ignoring the 99 percent of cars used on public roads
You ignore the functionality and purpose of autos

irrelevant.

 

[2aguy]

Non gun suicides out numbered gun suicides 2 years in a row...and countries that have absolute gun control have more suicides than we do.....

You are wrong...as usual.

Dead is still dead

We have as many gun related deaths as auto

No...that isn't true...

According to the CDC if you compare apples to apples...accidental deaths to deaths.....

2015

Cars 36,161
Guns 489

It isn't even close.....

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

That would be unConstitutional...since they would be the equivalent of Poll Taxes and literacy tests on the Right to own a gun......

Besides that, there is no point....they would not stop criminals or mass shooters from committing crimes with guns...and they wouldn't help police solve crimes involving guns.....

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The anti-gunners have detroyed the life of this man..........for having a piece of equipment...that he didn't use in any crime....

actually, no, he ruined his own life by driving drunk and owning illegal magazines.

And speeding.

Thankfully, he didn't run anyone down.

As usual, OP makes the exact opposite point he wanted to. If this jerk drives/speeds while drunk, he has no business owning guns. But, hey 2aguy - I guess he could keep some ammo. [emoji849]


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[WinterBorn]

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

Ok, lets do that. Except, if I never take my car on public roads, I don't have to register it or have mandatory safety features. If I am on private property, no one needs a license to drive the car. And I can put it in a trailer and take it anywhere I want without having to do anything involving license, registration, insurance or safety features for that car.

Yes, Let's do the same with guns. You see, your false comparison assumes all the requirements for cars are based on owning them. No. It is based on operating them on public roads.

Ok

Keep your gun on your property

Or transport it according to the legal guidelines. When I am going to the range or hunting, my guns are locked and not in reach of the driver (unless I am carrying my main CCW firearm). YOu said you want to do guns like we do cars. There is no requirement for me to keep an unregistered car on my property. I just have to transport it some way besides driving it on public roads.

Specious argument ignoring the 99 percent of cars used on public roads
You ignore the functionality and purpose of autos

I did not ignore anything. You were the one who wanted to treat guns like cars. I simply explained why that changes little or nothing

 

[2aguy]

The anti-gunners have detroyed the life of this man..........for having a piece of equipment...that he didn't use in any crime....

actually, no, he ruined his own life by driving drunk and owning illegal magazines.

And speeding.

Thankfully, he didn't run anyone down.

As usual, OP makes the exact opposite point he wanted to. If this jerk drives/speeds while drunk, he has no business owning guns. But, hey 2aguy - I guess he could keep some ammo. [emoji849]


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Sure he does...since he wasn't convicted of drunk driving.......you know..that little thing called due process, and being found guilty before you are punished for a crime...true, that is an alien concept to left wingers ....but we still have it in this country...

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Here ...this is more on this man....

Blog: Veteran faces 21 years in prison for possession of pistol magazines

Simeon D. Mokhiber, a Niagara Falls, N.Y. Army veteran, was convicted April 21 on three felony counts of possessing "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" under Gov. Andrew Cuomo's SAFE Act.

Mokhiber served nine years in the U.S. Army and participated in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. He subsequently worked as an armed private security contractor in Iraq and Afghanistan and was formerly licensed as an armed security guard in New York. He is the father of an eight-year-old with disabilities and had no prior criminal record.

Mokhiber was pulled over for speeding in April 2016. Although Mokhiber had not been drinking, police performed field sobriety tests. When Mokhiber requested that officers turn on body cameras, he was arrested, and his vehicle was searched without a warrant.

Police found three 17-round Glock handgun magazines in a locked container that was opened without Mokhiber's consent. Although Mokhiber was the owner of a licensed and registered handgun, no gun was present in the vehicle at the time of the traffic stop – only the magazines.

Under New York law, possessing an "ammunition feeding device" capable of holding more than 10 rounds is a felony carrying a maximum penalty of seven years in prison.

If Mokhiber is sentenced consecutively, he faces up to 21 years in state prison for possession of the magazines.

While New York is busy prosecuting combat veterans of Operation "Iraqi Freedom," Gov. Cuomo has been actively sympathizing with left-wing criminals. Last December, Cuomo commuted the sentence of Judith Clark, making the avowed communist revolutionary eligible for a parole hearing. Clark was serving a 75-to-life sentence for her role in a 1981 Brink's robbery that involved the murder of a security guard and two police officers. (Cuomo, who personally visited Clark in prison prior to commuting her sentence, was quoted as saying, "She made a mistake" and "Jesus would pardon her.")

This is a standard Progressive trick, pass minor law that seems neutral and then when you have enough votes after a election revisit the revise the bill to the one you really wanted to pass. It called bean bagging.

 

[JoeB131]

Um, ok...how about you stop being a willful moron and look for yourself.

I did. It had no numbers... Which means I doubt it exceeds the 33K gun deaths.

 

[JoeB131]

So then cops should have the same restrictions on their service pistols, right?

Here's the thing, guy. In the UK, they shoot less than 2 Civilians a year compared to the 1200 citizens who die at the hands of the police in this country.

In Japan, it's considered a scandal if the police even pull their guns out of their holsters.

That's what you get when you don't let every idiot who wants a gun have one.

 

[rightwinger]

Dead is still dead

We have as many gun related deaths as auto

No...that isn't true...

According to the CDC if you compare apples to apples...accidental deaths to deaths.....

2015

Cars 36,161
Guns 489

It isn't even close.....

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

That would be unConstitutional...since they would be the equivalent of Poll Taxes and literacy tests on the Right to own a gun......

Besides that, there is no point....they would not stop criminals or mass shooters from committing crimes with guns...and they wouldn't help police solve crimes involving guns.....

The second amendment calls for a well regulated militia. Licensing, registration are part of regulating

 

[WinterBorn]

So then cops should have the same restrictions on their service pistols, right?

Here's the thing, guy. In the UK, they shoot less than 2 Civilians a year compared to the 1200 citizens who die at the hands of the police in this country.

In Japan, it's considered a scandal if the police even pull their guns out of their holsters.

That's what you get when you don't let every idiot who wants a gun have one.

What are the suicide rates in the countries you reference? I know Japan had 25,000 suicides last year, despite having some of the strictest gun laws in the world.

 

[WinterBorn]

No...that isn't true...

According to the CDC if you compare apples to apples...accidental deaths to deaths.....

2015

Cars 36,161
Guns 489

It isn't even close.....

Gun deaths are on purpose
That is why we regulate them

Cars kill more people accidentally than criminals do using guns intentionally...

2015

car deaths...36,161
gun murder....9,616

You are wrong again......

Yes and we thoroughly regulate cars. Licensing, registration, insurance, mandatory safety features

Let's do the same with guns

That would be unConstitutional...since they would be the equivalent of Poll Taxes and literacy tests on the Right to own a gun......

Besides that, there is no point....they would not stop criminals or mass shooters from committing crimes with guns...and they wouldn't help police solve crimes involving guns.....

The second amendment calls for a well regulated militia. Licensing, registration are part of regulating

The 2nd Amendment gave the militia as the reason for gun ownership. And the militia being well regulated does not mean registration & licensing. At least not according to the highest court in the land.

 

[JoeB131]

What are the suicide rates in the countries you reference? I know Japan had 25,000 suicides last year, despite having some of the strictest gun laws in the world.

which is still less than we had...

Also, their culture sees suicide as an honorable thing to do... as opposed to ours where it's a mortal sin.