Anti gunners...is this what you wanted when you banned gun magazines? Innocent people going to jail

[BasicHumanUnit]

He fought the law and the law won

It is the responsibility of gun owners to know the laws where they live. No different than if he had been found with drugs except that guns kill more people than drugs do

Last time I checked, the US Constitution was THE LAW. Not some jackwagon vermin leftist.

And you are just another willfully ignorant elitist puppet.
There are between 100,000 and 200,000 drug related deaths per year.
drugwarfacts.org/chapter/causes_of_death

 

[Skull Pilot]

As you can see....trying to present a reasonable point with the leftist is futile. Completely unreasonable and intolerant. They don't care that there is a 2nd amendment. Law is irrelevant...only their agenda. THIS is how America will be under their rule. Imagine the jails across America bursting at the seams with millions of people who slipped and said the "N" word.....30 years. Carried a knife in a public place...15 years. Failed to hold the door for a transgender person....10 years.....tolerance? yeah right.

Okay, not going into the rest of your rant, the point is, there was a law, this guy broke it when he was caught breaking another law against driving drunk.

Your party has no problem sending thousands of people to prison for breaking the drug laws... especially people of color.

he was not convicted of drunk driving

 

[WinterBorn]

No, not 33k deaths for a fetish. 25k people take their OWN lives. No matter how many times you try to spin that, it is bullshit.

which they wouldn't be able to if they didn't have easy access to guns.

Good thing they passed a law restricting magazine capacity, huh? Those suicides might have shot themselves 12 or 13 times.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

he was not convicted of drunk driving

What do FACTS matter to these agenda sucking morons?

 

[JoeB131]

Except I don't drive and text, I fully support laws to keep people from doing that.

Oh, yeah, and TOTAL Auto fatalities in the US is only 40K a year. Most of those don't involve drinking or texting. So your numbers are wrong again.

blah blah blah...
Uh..no...YOU are wrong again

Maybe for once in your ignorant leftist twisted life you should actually check facts and stop being brainwashed by your elitist masters who really don't give a shit about you...why are you so happy to stay on their plantation?
Top 25 Causes of Car Accidents

Um, okay, where are the numbers that show that 33K of those 40K fatalities were due to texting?

Thanks.

 

[JoeB131]

Good thing they passed a law restricting magazine capacity, huh? Those suicides might have shot themselves 12 or 13 times.

Works for me. On a similar note, if you can't shoot your imaginary burglar or a neighbor's black kid with 12 shots, you probably shouldn't have a gun either.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Um, okay, where are the numbers that show that 33K of those 40K fatalities were due to texting?
Thanks.

Um, ok...how about you stop being a willful moron and look for yourself.

Top 25 Causes of Car Accidents

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Good thing they passed a law restricting magazine capacity, huh? Those suicides might have shot themselves 12 or 13 times.

Works for me. On a similar note, if you can't shoot your imaginary burglar or a neighbor's black kid with 12 shots, you probably shouldn't have a gun either.

Imagine that...when all else fails..he plays the RACE card. Blacks can own guns too. Imagine that.

LOSER

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

WE MUST DO MORE TO STOP THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA AND END THE INTOLERANCE....PERIOD

But what can we do? There ARE things you can do.

1). STOP supporting all the things that are cash cows to the left.
MAN UP (or woman up)! Drop the cable TV (supports Hollywood and the elitist liberal globalist agenda). Stop going to movies. Discontinue subscriptions to entertainment that supports the left. It's YOUR life too. Do your own research. Find out. That includes SPORTS channels.

2). Cut back ALL luxury entertainment expenses to a BARE minimum (including Netflix which is hard core left owned).

3). Come out of the I'm with Jesus closet and raise your voice. Being a believer doesn't mean God will do your fighting for you.

4). Attend rallies. Get involved. Stop being passive and waiting for the Rapture or Apocalypse. Both may never occur in your lifetime. Make a difference.

5). Stop being afraid to speak up. They NEED you afraid and silenced to destroy you and the nation. That's the entire purpose of all the Politically correct horseshit they spew.

6). Get up and VOTE for God's sake while elections still matter!!!! ( I can't emphasize this enough). If you are against the liberal communist takeover of America and do not vote, you are essentially one of them.
Not voting is 100% inexcusable. PERIOD!!!!!

7). Pay attention to companies that advertise on the hard left media such as TV and radio. Do NOT do business with those companies. Vote with your wallet. Kill the cash cows!

8). Support efforts to give the right an equal voice. Use conservative health care and search engines. Do everything in your power to lend your voice and your weight to anti-communist, anti-American (left) forces.

9). Spread the word...share this list......enough is ENOUGH!!

Failure to do these simple things will empower the left further. We are truly at war.
Let the Communist swine laugh. (and laughing they are). Let them celebrate...while we quietly set the traps.
But Patriots cannot continue to believe freedom is free and that someone else will protect us from evil.
The US Constitution is only as good as the men who defend it. The clock is indeed ticking. You know it is. You know things are going to get much worse.

I'll repeat one of my favorite quotes once more.....

"All that is required for evil men to prevail is for good men to do nothing"....
Edmund Burke

 

[rightwinger]

No, not 33k deaths for a fetish. 25k people take their OWN lives. No matter how many times you try to spin that, it is bullshit.

which they wouldn't be able to if they didn't have easy access to guns.

LMAO!!!! That is hilarious! The only way to commit suicide is with a gun? Without a gun they cannot possibly take their own life? Even for you, JoeyB, that is ignorant.

If you slit your wrists or OD on drugs you have time to change your mind
With a gun, you have a microsecond to change your mind

 

[martybegan]

Good thing they passed a law restricting magazine capacity, huh? Those suicides might have shot themselves 12 or 13 times.

Works for me. On a similar note, if you can't shoot your imaginary burglar or a neighbor's black kid with 12 shots, you probably shouldn't have a gun either.

So then cops should have the same restrictions on their service pistols, right?

 

[Iceweasel]

When you give retards power you will get retarded laws. The law saves no lives, no one willing to murder is going to care about magazine capacity laws. That said it was dumb to have the magazine. Leftists aren't playing around, they want to grind us into a pulp. If the magazines mean that much to you, leave the state.

 

[2aguy]

Okay...it is Monday morning.....

So...anti-gunners...is this what you wanted.....a possible 21 years for a man who is not a criminal? Who did not even have a gun in his possession at the time of his arrest? Who didn't even use a gun to commit an actual crime...of rape, robbery or murder with a gun?

He is facing the destruction of his life because of a policy you want.....that doesn't stop criminals or mass shooters.....and isn't even targeting them.....

And tell us......why isn't the law focused on those who use guns and magazines to commit actual crimes...you know, locking them up when they actually use the magazine to commit a crime?

I don't have a problem with it. 33,000 deaths a year because of your Fetish, that's what I have a problem with.

And the truth.....

the breakdown of that number for 2015...

Suicide...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015 22,018 ( non gun suicide 22,078)


Accidental gun death...


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

Gun murder....


https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2010-2014.xls

2015--9,616

Soooo....

------non gun suicide outnumbered gun suicide....and countries with absolute gun control..Japan, China, South Korea, have higher suicide rates than we do...

----accidental gun deaths....400 million guns in private hands, with 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense.....489 gun deaths....

-----9,616 gun murders....70-80% of those victims are criminals engaged in criminal activity...and of the rest many are friends and family of criminals


Defensive gun use each year.....

1,500,000 times a year. According to bill clinton and barak obama.....

As more AMericans own, and carry guns...what actually happened?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


There is nothing about the gun debate that you are even remotely accurate or truthful about....

 

[2aguy]

No, not 33k deaths for a fetish. 25k people take their OWN lives. No matter how many times you try to spin that, it is bullshit.

which they wouldn't be able to if they didn't have easy access to guns.

You are wrong...again......

Japan, Korea, China...absolute gun control..only criminals and cops can have guns......and their suicide rates are higher than ours...

And actual research shows there is no connection between gun ownership and higher suicide rates...

Fact Check, Gun Control and Suicide



There is no relation between suicide rate and gun ownership rates around the world. According to the 2016 World Health Statistics report, (2) suicide rates in the four countries cited as having restrictive gun control laws have suicide rates that are comparable to that in the U. S.: Australia, 11.6, Canada, 11.4, France, 15.8, UK, 7.0, and USA 13.7 suicides/100,000. By comparison, Japan has among the highest suicide rates in the world, 23.1/100,000, but gun ownership is extremely rare, 0.6 guns/100 people.

Suicide is a mental health issue. If guns are not available other means are used. Poisoning, in fact, is the most common method of suicide for U. S. females according to the Washington Post (34 % of suicides), and suffocation the second most common method for males (27%).

Secondly, gun ownership rates in France and Canada are not low, as is implied in the Post article. The rate of gun ownership in the U. S. is indeed high at 88.8 guns/100 residents, but gun ownership rates are also among the world’s highest in the other countries cited. Gun ownership rates in these countries are are as follows: Australia, 15, Canada, 30.8, France, 31.2, and UK 6.2 per 100 residents. (3,4) Gun ownership rates in Saudia Arabia are comparable to that in Canada and France, with 37.8 guns per 100 Saudi residents, yet the lowest suicide rate in the world is in Saudia Arabia (0.3 suicides per 100,000).

Third, recent statistics in the state of Florida show that nearly one third of the guns used in suicides are obtained illegally, putting these firearm deaths beyond control through gun laws.(5)

Fourth, the primary factors affecting suicide rates are personal stresses, cultural, economic, religious factors and demographics. According to the WHO statistics, the highest rates of suicide in the world are in the Republic of Korea, with 36.8 suicides per 100,000, but India, Japan, Russia, and Hungary all have rates above 20 per 100,000; roughly twice as high as the U.S. and the four countries that are the basis for the Post’s calculation that gun control would reduce U.S. suicide rates by 20 to 38 percent. Lebanon, Oman, and Iraq all have suicide rates below 1.1 per 100,000 people--less than 1/10 the suicide rate in the U. S., and Afghanistan, Algeria, Jamaica, Haiti, and Egypt have low suicide rates that are below 4 per 100,000 in contrast to 13.7 suicides/100,000 in the U. S.

 

[2aguy]

You don't have a problem with it because you are Anti-American, have a dumbass leftist agenda and are willfully ignorant.

More deaths are related to people driving drunk and texting. But since YOU text and drive, 40,000 deaths a year doesn't matter....hypocrite.

Except I don't drive and text, I fully support laws to keep people from doing that.

Oh, yeah, and TOTAL Auto fatalities in the US is only 40K a year. Most of those don't involve drinking or texting. So your numbers are wrong again.

No...you are wrong joe....

Accidental gun deaths 2015....489

Accidental car deaths 2015...36,161




And even if you go apples to oranges.....accidental car deaths to the deliberate taking of human life with a gun...you are still wrong


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC
Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161--------- Gun murder 9,616
2014....33,736 -------- Gun murder 8,312
2013....33,804-------- Gun murder 8,454
2012....34,935 ------- Gun murder 8,897


Accidental gun deaths...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

 

[2aguy]

No, not 33k deaths for a fetish. 25k people take their OWN lives. No matter how many times you try to spin that, it is bullshit.

which they wouldn't be able to if they didn't have easy access to guns.

LMAO!!!! That is hilarious! The only way to commit suicide is with a gun? Without a gun they cannot possibly take their own life? Even for you, JoeyB, that is ignorant.

If you slit your wrists or OD on drugs you have time to change your mind
With a gun, you have a microsecond to change your mind

Non gun suicides out numbered gun suicides 2 years in a row...and countries that have absolute gun control have more suicides than we do.....

You are wrong...as usual.

 

[rightwinger]

No, not 33k deaths for a fetish. 25k people take their OWN lives. No matter how many times you try to spin that, it is bullshit.

which they wouldn't be able to if they didn't have easy access to guns.

LMAO!!!! That is hilarious! The only way to commit suicide is with a gun? Without a gun they cannot possibly take their own life? Even for you, JoeyB, that is ignorant.

If you slit your wrists or OD on drugs you have time to change your mind
With a gun, you have a microsecond to change your mind

Non gun suicides out numbered gun suicides 2 years in a row...and countries that have absolute gun control have more suicides than we do.....

You are wrong...as usual.

Dead is still dead

We have as many gun related deaths as auto

 

[WinterBorn]

No, not 33k deaths for a fetish. 25k people take their OWN lives. No matter how many times you try to spin that, it is bullshit.

which they wouldn't be able to if they didn't have easy access to guns.

LMAO!!!! That is hilarious! The only way to commit suicide is with a gun? Without a gun they cannot possibly take their own life? Even for you, JoeyB, that is ignorant.

If you slit your wrists or OD on drugs you have time to change your mind
With a gun, you have a microsecond to change your mind

Not exactly accurate, but I see where you are going.

We will never know what a suicide was thinking. But one thing we do know. If they used a gun they truly wanted to die. And just by way of FYI, the second most common method of suicide is hanging. Not much chance to change your mind there.

 

[Skull Pilot]

No, not 33k deaths for a fetish. 25k people take their OWN lives. No matter how many times you try to spin that, it is bullshit.

which they wouldn't be able to if they didn't have easy access to guns.

LMAO!!!! That is hilarious! The only way to commit suicide is with a gun? Without a gun they cannot possibly take their own life? Even for you, JoeyB, that is ignorant.

If you slit your wrists or OD on drugs you have time to change your mind
With a gun, you have a microsecond to change your mind

SO what?

Suicide is a choice the method is a choice and neither one is any of your business

 

[Skull Pilot]

No, not 33k deaths for a fetish. 25k people take their OWN lives. No matter how many times you try to spin that, it is bullshit.

which they wouldn't be able to if they didn't have easy access to guns.

LMAO!!!! That is hilarious! The only way to commit suicide is with a gun? Without a gun they cannot possibly take their own life? Even for you, JoeyB, that is ignorant.

If you slit your wrists or OD on drugs you have time to change your mind
With a gun, you have a microsecond to change your mind

Non gun suicides out numbered gun suicides 2 years in a row...and countries that have absolute gun control have more suicides than we do.....

You are wrong...as usual.

Dead is still dead

We have as many gun related deaths as auto

Be honest (that's funny I just remembered who i was talking to) and at least acknowledge the fact that there are intentional and unintentional deaths caused by both autos and guns.

accidental gun death is very low
accidental death by car is much much higher