Anti gunners...is this what you wanted when you banned gun magazines? Innocent people going to jail

[Skull Pilot]

rural women depend a lot of gossip...when i moved in....i was warned...dont let him get you alone..that was all i had to hear to know what they meant...and when he tried to get me alone with my toddler son.....a shotgun was my last line of defense.....people say i was lucky.....i say he was lucky he was unable to get into the house....imagine what is like...sitting on a bed...listening to a man try every door and window looking for a way in....and i was the only thing between him and my son.....he knew my man was gone and wanted to take advantage.....i knew my shotgun was loaded with dble 0...the kick would put me on the bed but stop him in his tracks....and give me time to fire again...now you tell me its not worth it? why do you want to sacrifice people like me and my son? innocent people in our home....why do you side with the possible rapist?

Most people do not have a problem with guns for self defense in the home. It is a risk that you assume & basically the risk stays in your home.

Its this need for some to be armed everywhere they go that puts everyone at risk.

Untrue

How many times has a legal concealed carry permit holder accidentally shot someone in public?

 

[Skull Pilot]

how do you count gun owners? i dont fill out anything saying i have guns....shotguns....or rifles....we are so ******* liberal its gonna shock the shit outta some asshole when i blow his ass away...this is a liberal household with guns....more than one...less than 100

There have been surveys of the populations of each state that owns guns, then take that percentage tot he number of adults living in that state.

It is an estimation based on solid math.

and the assumption that people are telling the truth

 

[2aguy]

son are you a ******* fool....my point....i dont fill out surveys.....no one tells the truth on that crap.....you dont want the aft come a calling....

There are 15.7 million permitted gun owners who carry guns in the country........and more people who carry guns in states that do not require a permit....so the number of people legally carrying a gun is well over 15.7 million....

Accidental gun deaths with all those people actually carrying guns.....in 2015, 489. Cars......36,161.

 

[strollingbones]

my point skull about rural weapons...we dont call the phone...we call our man...then he takes care of it...

do you realize in the county had i shot him when he tried the door....i might have gone to court...where women and men would say....better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6....the one time i called the police....the cop ask me..why did you just not shot him ....lol....he had just pissed me off when i ask for his id and he decided not to give it..and he was on my land and took a right outta my drive....sob did not know its a dead end...and kept asking the cop about me pulling the big ass truck across the road and blocking his ass.... cop kept reminding him i didnt shot him and to shut up

 

[strollingbones]

permits only apply to pistols here

 

[2aguy]

rural women depend a lot of gossip...when i moved in....i was warned...dont let him get you alone..that was all i had to hear to know what they meant...and when he tried to get me alone with my toddler son.....a shotgun was my last line of defense.....people say i was lucky.....i say he was lucky he was unable to get into the house....imagine what is like...sitting on a bed...listening to a man try every door and window looking for a way in....and i was the only thing between him and my son.....he knew my man was gone and wanted to take advantage.....i knew my shotgun was loaded with dble 0...the kick would put me on the bed but stop him in his tracks....and give me time to fire again...now you tell me its not worth it? why do you want to sacrifice people like me and my son? innocent people in our home....why do you side with the possible rapist?

Most people do not have a problem with guns for self defense in the home. It is a risk that you assume & basically the risk stays in your home.

Its this need for some to be armed everywhere they go that puts everyone at risk.

And you are wrong......15.7 million people, well over 15.7 million people are now carrying guns, and the gun accident rate is going down, not up......there is nothing about this issue that you understand......

 

[2aguy]

rural women depend a lot of gossip...when i moved in....i was warned...dont let him get you alone..that was all i had to hear to know what they meant...and when he tried to get me alone with my toddler son.....a shotgun was my last line of defense.....people say i was lucky.....i say he was lucky he was unable to get into the house....imagine what is like...sitting on a bed...listening to a man try every door and window looking for a way in....and i was the only thing between him and my son.....he knew my man was gone and wanted to take advantage.....i knew my shotgun was loaded with dble 0...the kick would put me on the bed but stop him in his tracks....and give me time to fire again...now you tell me its not worth it? why do you want to sacrifice people like me and my son? innocent people in our home....why do you side with the possible rapist?

Most people do not have a problem with guns for self defense in the home. It is a risk that you assume & basically the risk stays in your home.

Its this need for some to be armed everywhere they go that puts everyone at risk.

Anti-gunners...the ones pushing all the silly laws that don't work, have a problem with guns in the home...their mentality is no different from the book burners who attack the 1st Amendment.....anti-gunners who want to ban magazines, and rifles that hold those magazines are the book burners of the 2nd Amendment....what they want is irrational, and they will not stop until all guns are banned.....except of course for the police, and military, and criminals...which history shows never works out for the citizens of those countries...just look at Mexico..where the police and military work hand in hand with the drug cartels to murder 10s of thousands of Mexicans every year.....

 

[WinterBorn]

rural women depend a lot of gossip...when i moved in....i was warned...dont let him get you alone..that was all i had to hear to know what they meant...and when he tried to get me alone with my toddler son.....a shotgun was my last line of defense.....people say i was lucky.....i say he was lucky he was unable to get into the house....imagine what is like...sitting on a bed...listening to a man try every door and window looking for a way in....and i was the only thing between him and my son.....he knew my man was gone and wanted to take advantage.....i knew my shotgun was loaded with dble 0...the kick would put me on the bed but stop him in his tracks....and give me time to fire again...now you tell me its not worth it? why do you want to sacrifice people like me and my son? innocent people in our home....why do you side with the possible rapist?

Most people do not have a problem with guns for self defense in the home. It is a risk that you assume & basically the risk stays in your home.

Its this need for some to be armed everywhere they go that puts everyone at risk.

I disagree. My ability to defend myself and my loved ones should not be restricted to my home.

And how many CCW permit holders committed murders? Those are the ones you are talking about.

 

[2aguy]

I'd say between 100,000 and 750,000 times per year that an American uses a gun to stop a crime is an excellent reason.

You could say that, it just wouldn't be true.

200 criminals shot in "Justified Homicides" by civilians. Compared to 33,000 suicides, homicides and accidents.

Just not worth it.

No..that is 200 shot and killed......

This is the more common outcome.....

Man Shoots Robber Armed With Knife in Upper Darby: Police

A man who was armed with a gun turned the tables on a robber armed with a knife and shot him in the leg in Upper Darby late Sunday morning, according to police.

Police told NBC10 a man was in the area of Bridge and James streets shortly before 11:30 a.m. when he was approached by a robber armed with a knife.

The robber threatened the man who repeatedly warned him that he had a concealed gun, investigators said. The robber ignored the man’s warnings and continued to move toward him with the knife, according to officials. Police say the man then opened fire and shot the man once in the leg.

The robbery suspect was taken to the hospital and was later released. Police have not yet revealed his identity or the specific charges against him.



Read more: Man Shoots Robber Armed With Knife in Upper Darby: Police
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[JimBowie1958]

There have been surveys of the populations of each state that owns guns, then take that percentage tot he number of adults living in that state.
It is an estimation based on solid math.

and the assumption that people are telling the truth

Yes, it gives a minimum estimate considering that there is little reason to lie saying you own a gun when you dont but ample reason for saying you dont own a gun when you actually do.

 

[JoeB131]

no joe its worth it when its you and your family....i assure you its worth it.....the one time i needed a weapon for protection...it was well worth it

Except a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a bad guy...

 

[JoeB131]

No..that is 200 shot and killed......

Yup. Exactly my point. A DGU where nobody died is a unicorn.

 

[2aguy]

no joe its worth it when its you and your family....i assure you its worth it.....the one time i needed a weapon for protection...it was well worth it

Except a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a bad guy...

joe.....that is a lie....the guy who actually came up with that number said he was wrong...and changed the number...you have been shown this over and over, yet you continue to lie....

This is what you have been shown...yet you still lie...

Here is the study he did where he then changed that 43 number ....to 2.7 times.....

MMS: Error

After controlling for these characteristics, we found that keeping a gun in the home was strongly and independently associated with an increased risk of homicide (adjusted odds ratio, 2.7;




And here is a look at kellerman in general....and how flawed his research actually is....

Nine Myths Of Gun Control

Myth #6 "A homeowner is 43 times as likely to be killed or kill a family member as an intruder"

To suggest that science has proven that defending oneself or one's family with a gun is dangerous, gun prohibitionists repeat Dr. Kellermann's long discredited claim: "a gun owner is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than an intruder." [17] This fallacy , fabricated using tax dollars, is one of the most misused slogans of the anti-self-defense lobby.

The honest measure of the protective benefits of guns are the lives saved, the injuries prevented, the medical costs saved, and the property protected not Kellermann's burglar or rapist body count.

Only 0.1% (1 in a thousand) of the defensive uses of guns results in the death of the predator. [3]

Any study, such as Kellermann' "43 times" fallacy, that only counts bodies will expectedly underestimate the benefits of gun a thousand fold.

Think for a minute. Would anyone suggest that the only measure of the benefit of law enforcement is the number of people killed by police? Of course not. The honest measure of the benefits of guns are the lives saved, the injuries prevented, the medical costs saved by deaths and injuries averted, and the property protected. 65 lives protected by guns for every life lost to a gun. [2]

Kellermann recently downgraded his estimate to "2.7 times," [18] but he persisted in discredited methodology. He used a method that cannot distinguish between "cause" and "effect." His method would be like finding more diet drinks in the refrigerators of fat people and then concluding that diet drinks "cause" obesity.


Also, he studied groups with high rates of violent criminality, alcoholism, drug addiction, abject poverty, and domestic abuse .


From such a poor and violent study group he attempted to generalize his findings to normal homes

Interestingly, when Dr. Kellermann was interviewed he stated that, if his wife were attacked, he would want her to have a gun for protection.[19] Apparently, Dr. Kellermann doesn't even believe his own studies.


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Public Health and Gun Control: A Review



Since at least the mid-1980s, Dr. Kellermann (and associates), whose work had been heavily-funded by the CDC, published a series of studies purporting to show that persons who keep guns in the home are more likely to be victims of homicide than those who don¹t.

In a 1986 NEJM paper, Dr. Kellermann and associates, for example, claimed their "scientific research" proved that defending oneself or one¹s family with a firearm in the home is dangerous and counter productive, claiming "a gun owner is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than an intruder."8

In a critical review and now classic article published in the March 1994 issue of the Journal of the Medical Association of Georgia (JMAG), Dr. Edgar Suter, Chairman of Doctors for Integrity in Policy Research (DIPR), found evidence of "methodologic and conceptual errors," such as prejudicially truncated data and the listing of "the correct methodology which was described but never used by the authors."5

Moreover, the gun control researchers failed to consider and underestimated the protective benefits of guns.

Dr. Suter writes: "The true measure of the protective benefits of guns are the lives and medical costs saved, the injuries prevented, and the property protected ‹ not the burglar or rapist body count.

Since only 0.1 - 0.2 percent of defensive uses of guns involve the death of the criminal, any study, such as this, that counts criminal deaths as the only measure of the protective benefits of guns will expectedly underestimate the benefits of firearms by a factor of 500 to 1,000."5

In 1993, in his landmark and much cited NEJM article (and the research, again, heavily funded by the CDC), Dr. Kellermann attempted to show again that guns in the home are a greater risk to the victims than to the assailants.4 Despite valid criticisms by reputable scholars of his previous works (including the 1986 study), Dr. Kellermann ignored the criticisms and again used the same methodology.

He also used study populations with disproportionately high rates of serious psychosocial dysfunction from three selected state counties, known to be unrepresentative of the general U.S. population.

For example,

53 percent of the case subjects had a history of a household member being arrested,

31 percent had a household history of illicit drug use, 32 percent had a household member hit or hurt in a family fight, and

17 percent had a family member hurt so seriously in a domestic altercation that prompt medical attention was required.
Moreover, both the case studies and control groups in this analysis had a very high incidence of financial instability.

In fact, in this study, gun ownership, the supposedly high risk factor for homicide was not one of the most strongly associated factors for being murdered.

Drinking, illicit drugs, living alone, history of family violence, living in a rented home were all greater individual risk factors for being murdered than a gun in the home. One must conclude there is no basis to apply the conclusions of this study to the general population.

All of these are factors that, as Dr. Suter pointed out, "would expectedly be associated with higher rates of violence and homicide."5

It goes without saying, the results of such a study on gun homicides, selecting this sort of unrepresentative population sample, nullify the authors' generalizations, and their preordained, conclusions can not be extrapolated to the general population.

Moreover, although the 1993 New England Journal of Medicine study purported to show that the homicide victims were killed with a gun ordinarily kept in the home, the fact is that as Kates and associates point out 71.1 percent of the victims were killed by assailants who did not live in the victims¹ household using guns presumably not kept in that home.6

 

[WinterBorn]

no joe its worth it when its you and your family....i assure you its worth it.....the one time i needed a weapon for protection...it was well worth it

Except a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a bad guy...

Bullshit. That has been debunked so many times it is laughable.

 

[2aguy]

No..that is 200 shot and killed......

Yup. Exactly my point. A DGU where nobody died is a unicorn.

Yeah...tell that to bill clinton, barak obama and all the other researchers who say you are wrong....

Self defense with a gun......40 years of actual research...first is the name of the group that conducted the research, then the year, then the number of defensive gun uses and finally wether the research contained police or military defensive gun uses....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

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If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....

 

[2aguy]

No..that is 200 shot and killed......

Yup. Exactly my point. A DGU where nobody died is a unicorn.

Except for all the ones we post......you mean except for those....?

 

[WinterBorn]

No..that is 200 shot and killed......

Yup. Exactly my point. A DGU where nobody died is a unicorn.

Well you just keep saying that. It is not true, but if it makes you feel better, keep saying it.

The idea that a legal gun owner will shoot every single time, and kill every single criminal caught in the act is so far out there as to be laughable.

The FBI recognizes that civilian guns are used to stop crimes without killing someone every time. That is enough.

 

[JoeB131]

joe.....that is a lie....the guy who actually came up with that number said he was wrong...and changed the number...you have been shown this over and over, yet you continue to lie....

No, he didn't, but thanks for playing "More NRA talking Points no one wants to hear".

 

[strollingbones]

and then we have this idiot...teaching his kids gun safety and kills his daughter wtf? you put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger...wtf? all guns are loaded....that is the major ******* safety rule?

HOBART, Ind. (WGN) -- Charges are pending against the father of a nine-year-old girl who was allegedly showing a gun to his kids when it discharged and struck her in the head Saturday night, according to family members who were there.

According to her brothers, Olivia Hummel was shot in the head when their father was showing them a gun and it went off. Olivia was rushed to a St. Mary Medical Center, where she later died.

Father facing charges after accidentally killing 9-year-old daughter

now first reports were he pointed the gun at her.....lets see how this plays out.....it just a major what the ****....
and it helps anti gunners...all to hell....the rules are so simple..all guns are loaded.....is the major rule...

 

[2aguy]

No..that is 200 shot and killed......

Yup. Exactly my point. A DGU where nobody died is a unicorn.

Here are just a few...

Notice...they aren't cops or soldiers either...unless Navy SEals are delivering pizza in their spare time.....or driving Uber....or practicing psychiatry.....

Alleged carjacker shot, wounded on SW Side

CHICAGO (WLS) --
The victim of an apparent carjacking shot and wounded one of the two men who allegedly tried to steal his vehicle Wednesday afternoon on the city's Southwest Side, police said.

The carjacker was shot in the groin, and were nabbed by police outside an auto repair shop near 63rd and Whipple in the Chicago Lawn neighborhood.

The 29-year-old owner of the vehicle, who has a valid conceal and carry license, fired his weapon after the two men approached him outside his PT Cruiser near 62nd and Homan.

The carjacker who was hit, a 25-year-old man, was taken to Christ Medical Center where he was in good condition on Wednesday, police said.

A witness said that by the time the PT Cruiser pulled into the driveway of the auto repair shop, it was being followed by five to six police cars.

Surveillance video captured the moment when police approached the vehicle outside the auto repair shop, two people in the car with their hands up.

Police found blood in the backseat and a flat tire.

Both offenders were in custody Wednesday

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Pizza Delivery Man Shot, Returns Fire

In southwest Philadelphia, a pizza deliveryman was ambushed and shot after he arrived at the location of a "customer."



The 36-year-old father of eight was delivering pizzas for Chester Pizza just after 7 p.m. Someone had called for a delivery and gave the address of an abandoned house in the 5300 block of Yocum Street


He got out of his car and almost immediately found himself face-to-face with the armed suspect.



"A group of males came from the abandoned property towards him," said Philadelphia Police Lt. John Walker. "One pulled a gun, pointed it at the pizza delivery driver's head (and) demanded money and pizzas."

Keyveat Fredericks struggled with the attackers and then made it to his car. "I smacked his gun. Ran around my vehicle. I had dropped the pizzas. I heard one shot. I felt it hit me. I can tell you I felt it go through my arm. I heard it literally hit my gun that was on my side on my holster and I felt it go inside of me," he described.

He was shot on his arm and hip.

But Fredericks didn't give up. He hid behind his car, unholstered his weapon, and shot back.
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Armed citizens foil 2 separate robberies in Philadelphia

Two attempted robberies in Philadelphia over the weekend were stopped when both intended targets fought back against and fired at their assailants.

The first attempted robbery occurred at an auto repair shop around 6:30 p.m. in the Elmwood area of the city. According to local reports, after the armed robber entered the shop, the owner shot the suspect a total of three times – once in the chest, once in the shoulder and once in the buttocks.

When police arrived on the scene, the 30-year-old suspect was transported to a local hospital. As of Sunday night, he remained in critical condition.

Police say they recovered a weapon from the scene. Neither the suspect or the shop owner’s names have been released.

The second incident unfolded about three hours later, shortly after 9:30 p.m., when a pizza delivery driver was making what he thought was a delivery in a northeast neighborhood.

As the 52-year-old driver, who police confirmed is licensed to carry a concealed firearm, walked up to the house where he was supposed to make the delivery, he was jumped from behind by the suspects. They initially made off with $82 from the driver, but as they attempted to make their escape, the driver opened fire, striking one of the suspects in the leg.

A Thug Tried To Carjack An Armed Senior. Wanna Guess What Happened Next?

An elderly Oklahoma man passing through Sioux Falls (SD) was attacked by a man half his age who must have thought that a man 42 years his senior sitting in a car with the door open would be easy target for a carjacking.

He figured wrong.

“The driver’s door was cracked slightly. While they were in there, what ends up being our suspect came along and pulled open the door and started punching the man in the head. Telling him to get out. He was trying to take the car,” said Sioux Falls Police Officer, Sam Clemens.

What the suspect didn’t know was the 71-year-old man he was was hitting over the head was carrying a concealed weapon. The Oklahoma man sitting with his wife took a 38 caliber handgun out of his pocket and shot the suspect twice.

“There’s some type of reciprocity so if you’re issued a concealed weapons permit in another state, as long as there’s that agreement between the states, then you’re allowed to carry concealed in a different state,” said Clemens.

The carjacking suspect, 34-year-old Edward Leblanc of Bismark, was found near McDonald’s on West 41st Street. He will most likely face charges of robbery and simple assault, once he’s released from the hospital.

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Woman Kills One of Three Home Invasion Suspects in Gun Battle

On Friday, a woman in Gwinnett County, Georgia, opened fire on three home invasion suspects who woke her from sleep by kicking in her door around 4 a.m.
One of the three home invasion suspects was killed during the exchange of fire. The other two fled the scene.

According to WSBTV, the woman and a man were in bed when they heard the sound of people kicking their way into the home. The woman grabbed her gun and confronted the invasion suspects, exchanging gunfire with at least one of them. Police said 28-year-old Antonia Leeks was shot and killed in the gun battle.

The woman owns a restaurant, and police believe this drew attention to her and ultimately led to the home invasion/attempted robbery. Gwinnett County police Cpl. Deon Washington said, “This is a very harrowing experience for anyone to endure. She’s shaken. It’s a very difficult experience for anyone to deal with.”

Pastor's wife shoots suspect during robbery in NE Philly
The pastor was hit in the head with the rifle by the bandit.

His wife then pulled out a gun, she was licensed to carry, and shot the suspect in the leg, police say.

Pastor Robert Cook describes the moment his wife shot the suspect.

"And I turned like I was going to get my wallet, but I was stalling. And he hit me in the head with the gun. He swung it like a baseball bat.
And everything was like lightning for a minute. And then I heard my wife saying, drop the gun, drop the gun. I'm like she's got her gun. He turns towards her, and I said, shoot him, shoot him. And she shot him."

The suspect ran off bleeding from the scene, jumped onto the running board of a passing SUV while tossing the rifle.
Police put out description of that man, and a few minutes later, he was spotted near Frankford Hospital.


Four People, Dog Stabbed During Buffalo Grove Home Invasion

CHICAGO (CBS) — Four people and their family dog were stabbed early Wednesday, when two masked men broke into their home in north suburban Buffalo Grove.

Police said the homeowner grabbed a handgun during the home invasion, and opened fire, chasing off the suspects.

Just after midnight, police responded to a home invasion in the 400 block of St. Marys Parkway, and found several windows had been broken, and the front door had been forced open. Officers discovered a bloody scene inside.

Witnesses told police that two masked attackers had broken in, and a man armed with a large hunting knife repeatedly stabbed the 49-year-old homeowner. Three other people and the family’s German Shepherd also were stabbed.

During the struggle, the homeowner retrieved a handgun, and opened fire, causing the attackers to run away.

“It’s pretty shocking,” neighbor Bob Meyer said. “This neighborhood is very, very quiet. We’ve lived here for 30-plus years, and this stuff just doesn’t happen here; just doesn’t happen.”

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Mom-to-be shoots intruder with her pink pistol

A man is recovering from a gunshot wound after he broke into a Birmingham home early Friday morning and came face-to-face with a pregnant woman who was ready to protect herself and her baby.

Marquita Turner said she heard the suspect remove the air conditioning unit from a side window around 2:20 a.m. Once the unit was out, the suspect climbed right inside, but he likely wasn’t expecting to meet Turner with her pink Taurus Millennium 9mm.

“I grabbed my gun when I woke up. And I walked out of the door and I saw them, the guy in the hallway … he was kind of close to me so I shot and he fell,” Turner told reporters with alocal NBC affiliate.

Turner said she fired two or three rounds and struck the intruder once, then turned on the lights and called the police. Once they arrived, the suspect was taken to the hospital for treatment. He was expected to survive.

Turner, who is currently five months pregnant, said she purchased her gun two years ago for protection, but she’s never been to the range or otherwise had any type of training or target practice. Still, she’s glad she had the means to protect herself when she needed to. She said she doesn’t know what could have happened had she not be able to protect herself and her unborn baby.

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Man Armed With a Handgun Saves Cop Who Was Pinned to the Ground By Suspect - Inside Edition

Wheeler said he was being attacked by a homeless man who later acknowledged to officers that he was high on crystal meth. Knocked to the ground and fighting to subdue the “very irritated and out of sorts” attacker, Wheeler ended up on his back with the man straddling him.

“I’ve never been in that situation before,” the 14-year department veteran told InsideEdition.com Wednesday. “I’ve always been able to take control of a situation.”

Earlier this week, Wheeler was able to reward Dylan DeBoard, the man who saved him, with the city’s Citizen’s Award of Valor. Every day, he remembers that day last year when things could have turned out far, far worse.

He often stops by DeBoard’s home, Wheeler said, just to say thanks. “Every time I see him I let him know how much I appreciate what he did.”

On that day last year, Wheeler’s shoulder microphone had been ripped off in the tussle, so he couldn’t call for back-up. And then the man started going for Wheeler’s gun. And that’s when Wheeler began to think he was running out of options.

“I pulled him in close to me to try to restrict his range of motion,” Wheeler said. But the suspect just kept “trying to reach my belt.”

And right about then, the man sat back and put his hands up. Wheeler wondered ‘What the …?’

He lifted his head and looked in the direction the man was staring. There stood another man, with a gun.

“I didn’t know if he was pointing at me or him,” Wheeler said, meaning the man sitting on him. That’s when DeBoard announced he had a concealed weapon permit.

While the suspect was distracted, Wheeler managed to flip him over and handcuff him.

DGU of the Day: Trotwood Ohio Woman Defeats Three Home Invaders - The Truth About Guns

Three men break into a home in Trotwood, Ohio. [Click here to watch the video.] They’re all armed. It is before 6 am, just three days after Christmas. One of the men is armed with a Tec-9 pistol. He enters last. The other two hold what appear to be conventional semi-auto pistols. They bypass two sleeping children to find the mother. The surveillance video shows the three following the mother after they pistol whipped her in the laundry room.

The man directly behind her has the Tec-9. Presumably holds her at gunpoint while the other two attempt to drag off a safe, in a room with two more children. While the two men are occupied with the safe, the woman breaks free from her captor, accesses a hidden pistol, and starts to fire.

All three run, but the Tec-9 gunman, Azikiwe Presley, is mortally wounded. His body is found 100 yards from the house. From wdtn.com:

“I got my gun and I started shooting and they ran,” the female caller told dispatchers. “They all three had guns, I’m confused … they must not have had bullets because after I pulled the trigger they just took off, instead of firing back. I don’t know if I hit one or not, I don’t see blood anywhere.”

In this case, the recipient of female dedication to protecting innocent life ran a hundred yards and died. It is not uncommon for a man who is fatally shot to run that far, even with a heart/lung shot. As he was likely the one holding the woman at gunpoint, and the closest, greatest, threat with the Tec-9, it is not surprising that he drew the lethal ticket. Whether through choice or happenstance, the mother made the right tactical decision.

Rifle-Wielding North Carolina Teen Scares Off Home Invaders: Defensive Gun Use of the Day - The Truth About Guns


Kirk Puckett, a spokesperson for the Alamance County Sheriff’s Office, said two sisters, 12 and 13, were inside the home when they heard knocking on the front door.

Puckett said when they looked outside, they saw three unfamiliar men. He said the older sister grabbed her dad’s rifle.

The suspects then broke in through the back door. Puckett said the 13-year-old pointed the rifle at them, causing them to run away without taking anything.

Neighbors praise the teen for her quick thinking.

“I am in awe of that young lady,” Jackie Garrison said. “To have had that kind of thoughtfulness going on in a time of crisis in her head to where that’s what she did, instead of running and hiding. She probably stopped something major from going on.”

At the risk of losing my PC credentials, Ms. Garrison ain’t whistlin’ Dixie. Three men breaking into a home with two teenage girls is a recipe for unthinkable atrocity. Only it isthinkable — by anyone who understands the value of hoping for the best but preparing for the worst. Including teaching their children how to react in an emergency.

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2 injured in shooting involving Pokemon players identified


Two people were wounded Monday morning after an exchange of gunfire involving a group of Pokemon Go players at a northeast Las Vegas park.

According to Lt. David Gordon, of Las Vegas Metro police, a call of the incident came in at 4:02 a.m. at Gary Reese Freedom Park in the 800 block of North Mojave Road.

Six people were playing Pokemon Go at the park when a person in a vehicle pulled up on the group and attempted to rob them, Gordon said. One of the Pokemon Go players, though, pulled out his own weapon and exchanged fire with the other gunman.

The armed Pokemon Go player was wounded in the incident and was transported to a nearby hospital. The person believed to be the attempted robber was dropped off at a medical facility with a wound of his own.