Anti-Body Studies Find COVID-19 and Common Flu Have Nearly Identical Case Death Rates

[DrLove]

Is COVID-19 about as dangerous as the common flu? Yes

What flu was overflowing ICUs?

There wasn't one. Shame that my buddy Zog doesn't understand that.

 

[DrLove]

The average number of deaths from the Flu in the US over the last 10 seasons is 32,743. In just 9 weeks we have 67,000 deaths with estimates through the end of summer ranging from 80,000 to 130,000. Covid 19 is far deadlier, there is no vaccine, until recently no treatment, has a longer incubation period than the flu, is more contagious, and has hospitalization rate ten times greater.

One correction on "Through the end of summer"? We're already at 80,000 and Donnie's own CDC predicts 3,000 per day by June. We were almost there per day at the end of last week. God knows what happens when flu teams up with CV19 this fall.

CONSERVATIVE projection on mortality would be somewhere in the neighborhood of half a million by October and ESPECIALLY if red state governors continue to act-a-fool on their hastened Grand Reopening.

 

[DrLove]

A lot of inaccuracies are occurring in the coding methods around the US. Pneumonia, heart disease, upper respiratory, bronchitis, regular influenza, are all being coded as covid. Its not good for the old or ill but everyone else is surviving.

Unadulterated BULLSHIT ^ Nobody being counted at CV19 death hasn't been tested and hospitalized. In FACT, the undercount is likely in the 15-25% range because people die at home ... UNTESTED.

And F/U with the excuse that it's just old people, so they were gonna die anyway.

 

[DrLove]

Al

Perhaps a major difference is that we have somewhat of a herd immunity to the flu. The Covid 19 virus is not so much.

Also vaccines.

Why do you care if the rest of the nation goes to work while you hide under your bed?

Leaked papers from the tRump administration claim 3,000 dead a day soon.

Here's an idea:

Why do all you unruly tRumpling children go play and let the adults handle the important stuff, 'kay?

Why do you want more dead people? It makes you seem like a sick fucker.

Do you want more people to die because you don’t like Trump?

How long do you want us locked down? Specifically.

Are you stupid?

I wanna see LESS dead people. That's why you tRumplings need to get outta the way and let the adults manage things.

Best way for that to happen is herd immunity not lockdowns.

Nope. We will get to herd immunity anyway. The idea here is to lose as few people as possible along the way.

Nope. Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?

In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.

www.discovermagazine.com

Sweden will be a great case study

So you just wanna write off the 25?

No. You misunderstand. The 25 stay isolated. The 75 become immune faster and the virus has no place to go. It dies and then the 25 come out. If you release the 75 one or two at a time, the virus stands around longer.

Dr Zog has spoken!

 

[DrLove]

I wanna see LESS dead people. That's why you tRumplings need to get outta the way and let the adults manage things.

One, plenty of data show that there is no consistent correlation between lockdowns and reduced deaths.

Two, you "adults" have managed to put tens of millions of people out of work and brought us to the brink of an economic depression in response to a virus that has the same case death rate as the common flu.

Three, how do you explain the COVID-19 numbers from South Korea, Taiwan, and Sweden?

South Korea and Taiwan, which have taken much more moderate approaches to COVID-19, have a crude death rate that is far, far below ours. South Korea’s crude death rate is 0.000488% (252 deaths/51.64 million population). Taiwan’s crude death rate is 0.0000253% (6 deaths/23.78 million population). Yet, as mentioned, our crude death rate is 0.0209048% (68,609 deaths/328.2 million population). Clearly, we are doing something wrong in our approach to COVID-19.

Sweden, another country that has taken a moderate approach to COVID-19, has a crude death rate that is modestly higher than ours, but Sweden, thanks to its moderate response, has suffered much less economic damage than we have suffered, and Sweden might be on the way to achieving herd immunity. Also, Sweden’s crude death rate is below that of many other European nations, all of which have adopted a more extreme response to COVID-19 and have suffered more economic damage as a result.

Four, if we took our current COVID-19 crude death rate of 0.0209048%, which includes COVID-19 deaths among the medically ill, and which does not consider the over-reporting of our COVID-19 deaths—if we took this rate and applied it to an entire year, that would equal right around 269,000 deaths. 250,000 Americans die from medical errors each year. 640,000 Americans die from heart disease each year. 590,000 Americans die from cancer each year. 300,000 Americans die from strokes and respiratory diseases each year. On average, 2.8 million Americans die each year. So even in the very unlikely event that our current crude death rate continued for another eight months, COVID-19 deaths would constitute 9.6% of all deaths in the U.S. and would rank far below heart disease and cancer as a cause of death.

South Korea and others did lock down. Much sooner than we did.

You will have to post your evidence that lockdowns don't slow the virus down, 'cause I'm calling that bullshit.

Bingo.

South Korea Reports No New Domestic Coronavirus Cases

The country, which saw infections ramp up quickly in February, has seen them trend down for weeks. In a milestone on Thursday, officials reported just four new cases, all imported.

www.npr.org

Unlike Trump, South Korea did not call it a hoax and took that shit seriously from the beginning.

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Yep, the nations with a nationalized response have been on top of their problem. Others who blamed blue state governors they didn't like and shifted blame and burden on them have NOT.

 

[DrLove]

Burden of Influenza

Learn about how CDC estimates the burden of seasonal influenza in the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

In the link, you can see the worst year of the flu in recent years was 2017-2018.

45 million people were infected. 61,000 died.

Compare that to 1.2 million infected and 71,000 deaths so far for Covid-19.

Only a truly stupid piss drinking idiot would believe Covid is similar to the flu.

You tards have been parroting that lie from the beginning, and it is astonishing you are so persistent in your stupidity. Truly.

asshat you do realize everybody that died with COVID 19 did not die because of COVID 19
If you were killed in a car accident and had COVID 19 your death is counted towards the COVID 19 death count. If you were shot and killed you are counted with the covid 19 deaths. What's the recovery rate?

WoW - My capacity to absorb abject stupidity has been reached ^

 

[DrLove]

By the way, the 2010-2011 flu season had a case death rate of 0.172% (36,656 deaths/21.3 million cases). The Miami-Dade County anti-body study pushed the county's COVID-19 case death rate down to 0.1%. It is curious that liberals seem determined to keep believing the worst about COVID-19 even as we are seeing more and more evidence that proves the opposite.

You're comparing an entire year on a national level to Miami-Dade on a highly questionable and limited antibody test?
Get lost please ...

 

[DrLove]

everybody's worried, everybody's anxious. that's not a substitute for facts and logic.

Trump shouldnt be making decisions under political pressure, my friends

If you were killed in a car accident and had COVID 19 your death is counted towards the COVID 19 death count.

That is pure fantasy, nobody is giving covid-19 tests to accident victims.

Hell, they don't even give it to thousands and thousands that suddenly turn up dead at home.

There’s Been a Spike in People Dying at Home in Several Cities. That Suggests Coronavirus Deaths Are Higher Than Reported.

Coronavirus death counts are based on positive tests and driven by hospital deaths. But data from major metropolitan areas shows a spike in at-home deaths, prompting one expert to say current numbers were just “the tip of the iceberg.”

www.propublica.org

A person who dies at home is taken to the ER first to determine the cause of death and to rule out foul play, a blood test is routine and now that test includes covid 19 because a positive test gets more $$$ for the hospital.

Don't know who is pumping you full of this bs, but it's false.

Unless there are some sort of vital signs the body is examined by coroner or a medical examiner. Covid-19 test shortages mean that this hasn't been done postmortem usually.

Coroner says inability to test the dead for COVID-19 puts lives at risk

Someone died, and Tim Warco couldn’t provide anyone the answers they wanted. Mr. Warco, the Washington County coroner, was called to the scene of...

www.post-gazette.com

if you previously tested positive covid-19 and you die from anything you will be categorized as death wit covid-19 symptoms regardless if COVID 19 was the cause.

NONSENSE ^

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Al

Perhaps a major difference is that we have somewhat of a herd immunity to the flu. The Covid 19 virus is not so much.

Also vaccines.

Why do you care if the rest of the nation goes to work while you hide under your bed?

Leaked papers from the tRump administration claim 3,000 dead a day soon.

Here's an idea:

Why do all you unruly tRumpling children go play and let the adults handle the important stuff, 'kay?

Why do you want more dead people? It makes you seem like a sick fucker.

Do you want more people to die because you don’t like Trump?

How long do you want us locked down? Specifically.

Are you stupid?

I wanna see LESS dead people. That's why you tRumplings need to get outta the way and let the adults manage things.

Best way for that to happen is herd immunity not lockdowns.

Nope. We will get to herd immunity anyway. The idea here is to lose as few people as possible along the way.

Nope. Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?

In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.

www.discovermagazine.com

Sweden will be a great case study

So you just wanna write off the 25?

No. You misunderstand. The 25 stay isolated. The 75 become immune faster and the virus has no place to go. It dies and then the 25 come out. If you release the 75 one or two at a time, the virus stands around longer.

Dr Zog has spoken!

Logic is my strong suit.

 

[Dragonlady]

By the way, the 2010-2011 flu season had a case death rate of 0.172% (36,656 deaths/21.3 million cases). The Miami-Dade County anti-body study pushed the county's COVID-19 case death rate down to 0.1%. It is curious that liberals seem determined to keep believing the worst about COVID-19 even as we are seeing more and more evidence that proves the opposite.

 

[DrLove]

Al

Perhaps a major difference is that we have somewhat of a herd immunity to the flu. The Covid 19 virus is not so much.

Also vaccines.

Why do you care if the rest of the nation goes to work while you hide under your bed?

Leaked papers from the tRump administration claim 3,000 dead a day soon.

Here's an idea:

Why do all you unruly tRumpling children go play and let the adults handle the important stuff, 'kay?

Why do you want more dead people? It makes you seem like a sick fucker.

Do you want more people to die because you don’t like Trump?

How long do you want us locked down? Specifically.

Are you stupid?

I wanna see LESS dead people. That's why you tRumplings need to get outta the way and let the adults manage things.

Best way for that to happen is herd immunity not lockdowns.

Nope. We will get to herd immunity anyway. The idea here is to lose as few people as possible along the way.

Nope. Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?

In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.

www.discovermagazine.com

Sweden will be a great case study

So you just wanna write off the 25?

No. You misunderstand. The 25 stay isolated. The 75 become immune faster and the virus has no place to go. It dies and then the 25 come out. If you release the 75 one or two at a time, the virus stands around longer.

Dr Zog has spoken!

Logic is my strong suit.

Are you equally as adept at "Metrics" ???

 

[buttercup]

A lot of inaccuracies are occurring in the coding methods around the US. Pneumonia, heart disease, upper respiratory, bronchitis, regular influenza, are all being coded as covid. Its not good for the old or ill but everyone else is surviving.

Unadulterated BULLSHIT ^ Nobody being counted at CV19 death hasn't been tested and hospitalized. In FACT, the undercount is likely in the 15-25% range because people die at home ... UNTESTED.

And F/U with the excuse that it's just old people, so they were gonna die anyway.

Wow, you are SO deeply entrenched in the govt/media lies. First of all, according to numerous doctors, the testing is completely unreliable. Secondly, according to THEIR OWN WORDS, people who died from clear OTHER causes are being counted as COVID-19 deaths, if either they tested positive for it, or if it was "presumed" or "probable" - which obviously opens the door for basically anything goes.

How anyone can still believe the BS of this entire thing is beyond me. Open your damn eyes. There are a number of power-grabbing Orwellian agendas at work, have you been asleep for the past several weeks? Or is is that you ONLY listen to the controlled MSM, which is basically the mouthpiece for the criminals behind this whole thing? Turn off the idiot box. Throw it out. You have been lied to, and you have been manipulated, like sheep tricked into slaughter.

 

[buttercup]

everybody's worried, everybody's anxious. that's not a substitute for facts and logic.

Trump shouldnt be making decisions under political pressure, my friends

If you were killed in a car accident and had COVID 19 your death is counted towards the COVID 19 death count.

That is pure fantasy, nobody is giving covid-19 tests to accident victims.

Hell, they don't even give it to thousands and thousands that suddenly turn up dead at home.

There’s Been a Spike in People Dying at Home in Several Cities. That Suggests Coronavirus Deaths Are Higher Than Reported.

Coronavirus death counts are based on positive tests and driven by hospital deaths. But data from major metropolitan areas shows a spike in at-home deaths, prompting one expert to say current numbers were just “the tip of the iceberg.”

www.propublica.org

A person who dies at home is taken to the ER first to determine the cause of death and to rule out foul play, a blood test is routine and now that test includes covid 19 because a positive test gets more $$$ for the hospital.

Don't know who is pumping you full of this bs, but it's false.

Unless there are some sort of vital signs the body is examined by coroner or a medical examiner. Covid-19 test shortages mean that this hasn't been done postmortem usually.

Coroner says inability to test the dead for COVID-19 puts lives at risk

Someone died, and Tim Warco couldn’t provide anyone the answers they wanted. Mr. Warco, the Washington County coroner, was called to the scene of...

www.post-gazette.com

if you previously tested positive covid-19 and you die from anything you will be categorized as death wit covid-19 symptoms regardless if COVID 19 was the cause.

NONSENSE ^

THAT IS FROM THEIR OWN WORDS!!!! ARE YOU THAT IGNORANT, OR A LYING SHILL?

 

[DrLove]

A lot of inaccuracies are occurring in the coding methods around the US. Pneumonia, heart disease, upper respiratory, bronchitis, regular influenza, are all being coded as covid. Its not good for the old or ill but everyone else is surviving.

Unadulterated BULLSHIT ^ Nobody being counted at CV19 death hasn't been tested and hospitalized. In FACT, the undercount is likely in the 15-25% range because people die at home ... UNTESTED.

And F/U with the excuse that it's just old people, so they were gonna die anyway.

Wow, you are SO deeply entrenched in the govt/media lies. First of all, according to numerous doctors, the testing is completely unreliable. Secondly, according to THEIR OWN WORDS, people who died from clear OTHER causes are being counted as COVID-19 deaths, if either they tested positive for it, or if it was "presumed" or "probable" - which obviously opens the door for basically anything goes.

How anyone can still believe the BS of this entire thing is beyond me. Open your damn eyes. There are a number of power-grabbing Orwellian agendas at work, have you been asleep for the past several weeks? Or is is that you ONLY listen to the controlled MSM, which is basically the mouthpiece for the criminals behind this whole thing? Turn off the idiot box. Throw it out. You have been lied to, and you have been manipulated, like sheep tricked into slaughter.

Deep State Buttercup -- TOTALLY Deep State!

 

[Redfish]

Liberals want more people to die. That tells you all you need to know about them.

Death for political opportunism.

Sick fuckers.

No one wants more people to die. It’s just that only half of the country cares if more people die.

The don’t understand at all what you mean.

Just be honest. You want more death,

I’m not the one out there saying that COVID is no big deal because it typically only affects elderly. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told that the elderly are disposable.

it only affects the elderly who are already sick with something else like heart disease, lung disease, diabetes, obesity, etc. Healthy people of all ages generally do not have serious reactions to it, 80% don't even know they have it.

Its not a big enough problem to destroy our economy and millions of small businesses.

Right on cue.

The party of life shows up telling us that elderly are disposable.

Goes to show that the party of life only cares about life when it provides zero inconvenience to them. Ask them to sacrifice anything to save lives and they’ll reveal their true self.

No one said that the elderly are disposable. its really funny hearing that from someone who supports the murder of millions of unborn human beings every year, and the vast majority of them are black or hispanic. The party of diversity killing off diversity.

How can you justify that during this shutdown you can get an abortion, but not a haircut?

Oh GAWD ^ The One Trick Abortion Ponies make a triumphant return!!

so lets try this since you seem incapable of a cogent reply. Which involves more physical contact and possible exchange of bodily fluids and air? an abortion or a haircut? Simple question, I'll await your answer. the stated purpose of social distancing is to reduce the spread of the evil chinese virus, right, so how do you justify a policy that allows a very invasive close contact procedure like an abortion but prohibits someone from trimming off your already dead hair?

 

[buttercup]

A lot of inaccuracies are occurring in the coding methods around the US. Pneumonia, heart disease, upper respiratory, bronchitis, regular influenza, are all being coded as covid. Its not good for the old or ill but everyone else is surviving.

Unadulterated BULLSHIT ^ Nobody being counted at CV19 death hasn't been tested and hospitalized. In FACT, the undercount is likely in the 15-25% range because people die at home ... UNTESTED.

And F/U with the excuse that it's just old people, so they were gonna die anyway.

Wow, you are SO deeply entrenched in the govt/media lies. First of all, according to numerous doctors, the testing is completely unreliable. Secondly, according to THEIR OWN WORDS, people who died from clear OTHER causes are being counted as COVID-19 deaths, if either they tested positive for it, or if it was "presumed" or "probable" - which obviously opens the door for basically anything goes.

How anyone can still believe the BS of this entire thing is beyond me. Open your damn eyes. There are a number of power-grabbing Orwellian agendas at work, have you been asleep for the past several weeks? Or is is that you ONLY listen to the controlled MSM, which is basically the mouthpiece for the criminals behind this whole thing? Turn off the idiot box. Throw it out. You have been lied to, and you have been manipulated, like sheep tricked into slaughter.

Deep State Buttercup -- TOTALLY Deep State!

Nope, I never said "deep state" and I never even use that phrase. But there are criminal, agenda-driven people behind this whole thing, and if you are unaware of that, it's no wonder you regurgitate the controlled msm lies. You have a lot to learn. Hopefully you will, but I won't hold my breath.

 

[Redfish]

The average number of deaths from the Flu in the US over the last 10 seasons is 32,743. In just 9 weeks we have 67,000 deaths with estimates through the end of summer ranging from 80,000 to 130,000. Covid 19 is far deadlier, there is no vaccine, until recently no treatment, has a longer incubation period than the flu, is more contagious, and has hospitalization rate ten times greater.

One correction on "Through the end of summer"? We're already at 80,000 and Donnie's own CDC predicts 3,000 per day by June. We were almost there per day at the end of last week. God knows what happens when flu teams up with CV19 this fall.

CONSERVATIVE projection on mortality would be somewhere in the neighborhood of half a million by October and ESPECIALLY if red state governors continue to act-a-fool on their hastened Grand Reopening.

your blatant stupidity is only exceeded by your obvious partisan gullibility. Nothing in your post is even close to the truth.

 

[Redfish]

A lot of inaccuracies are occurring in the coding methods around the US. Pneumonia, heart disease, upper respiratory, bronchitis, regular influenza, are all being coded as covid. Its not good for the old or ill but everyone else is surviving.

Unadulterated BULLSHIT ^ Nobody being counted at CV19 death hasn't been tested and hospitalized. In FACT, the undercount is likely in the 15-25% range because people die at home ... UNTESTED.

And F/U with the excuse that it's just old people, so they were gonna die anyway.

Wow, you are SO deeply entrenched in the govt/media lies. First of all, according to numerous doctors, the testing is completely unreliable. Secondly, according to THEIR OWN WORDS, people who died from clear OTHER causes are being counted as COVID-19 deaths, if either they tested positive for it, or if it was "presumed" or "probable" - which obviously opens the door for basically anything goes.

How anyone can still believe the BS of this entire thing is beyond me. Open your damn eyes. There are a number of power-grabbing Orwellian agendas at work, have you been asleep for the past several weeks? Or is is that you ONLY listen to the controlled MSM, which is basically the mouthpiece for the criminals behind this whole thing? Turn off the idiot box. Throw it out. You have been lied to, and you have been manipulated, like sheep tricked into slaughter.

Deep State Buttercup -- TOTALLY Deep State!

Nope, I never said "deep state" and I never even use that phrase. But there are criminal, agenda-driven people behind this whole thing, and if you are unaware of that, it's no wonder you regurgitate the controlled msm lies. You have a lot to learn. Hopefully you will, but I won't hold my breath.

learned liberal is an oxymoron

 

[DrLove]

A lot of inaccuracies are occurring in the coding methods around the US. Pneumonia, heart disease, upper respiratory, bronchitis, regular influenza, are all being coded as covid. Its not good for the old or ill but everyone else is surviving.

Unadulterated BULLSHIT ^ Nobody being counted at CV19 death hasn't been tested and hospitalized. In FACT, the undercount is likely in the 15-25% range because people die at home ... UNTESTED.

And F/U with the excuse that it's just old people, so they were gonna die anyway.

Wow, you are SO deeply entrenched in the govt/media lies. First of all, according to numerous doctors, the testing is completely unreliable. Secondly, according to THEIR OWN WORDS, people who died from clear OTHER causes are being counted as COVID-19 deaths, if either they tested positive for it, or if it was "presumed" or "probable" - which obviously opens the door for basically anything goes.

How anyone can still believe the BS of this entire thing is beyond me. Open your damn eyes. There are a number of power-grabbing Orwellian agendas at work, have you been asleep for the past several weeks? Or is is that you ONLY listen to the controlled MSM, which is basically the mouthpiece for the criminals behind this whole thing? Turn off the idiot box. Throw it out. You have been lied to, and you have been manipulated, like sheep tricked into slaughter.

Deep State Buttercup -- TOTALLY Deep State!

Nope, I never said "deep state" and I never even use that phrase. But there are criminal, agenda-driven people behind this whole thing, and if you are unaware of that, it's no wonder you regurgitate the controlled msm lies. You have a lot to learn. Hopefully you will, but I won't hold my breath.

Alex needs you - There's a FALSE FLAG afoot ... HURRY!!

 

[DrLove]

The average number of deaths from the Flu in the US over the last 10 seasons is 32,743. In just 9 weeks we have 67,000 deaths with estimates through the end of summer ranging from 80,000 to 130,000. Covid 19 is far deadlier, there is no vaccine, until recently no treatment, has a longer incubation period than the flu, is more contagious, and has hospitalization rate ten times greater.

One correction on "Through the end of summer"? We're already at 80,000 and Donnie's own CDC predicts 3,000 per day by June. We were almost there per day at the end of last week. God knows what happens when flu teams up with CV19 this fall.

CONSERVATIVE projection on mortality would be somewhere in the neighborhood of half a million by October and ESPECIALLY if red state governors continue to act-a-fool on their hastened Grand Reopening.

your blatant stupidity is only exceeded by your obvious partisan gullibility. Nothing in your post is even close to the truth.

Interesting .. which part of this is untrue, and why do you eschew facts?

"Through the end of summer"? We're already at 80,000 and Donnie's own CDC predicts 3,000 per day by June. We were almost there per day at the end of last week. God knows what happens when flu teams up with CV19 this fall.