Another Trump impeachment bombshell: Plot to oust acting AG and force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What we know about the man is that he pays porn stars for sex, lies habitually, incited a mob to stop the Congress from approving his successor, tried to influence state officials to swing at least one state's electors in his favor, called Mexicans rapists, fires people by tweet and put kids into cages along the border--not as a last resort--but as a deterrent. All of that is fact and is not in dispute. Why anyone would vote for this guy again is a mystery
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
Not really. There is only one article of impeachment, for inciting a riot. Election tampering, while another serious charge, isn't part of it.
Unfortunately.

If one wishes to be critical of the House’s second impeachment of Trump, it’s that they failed to draft a second Article addressing Trump’s efforts to coerce Georgia election officials to join Trump in a criminal conspiracy to overturn that state’s lawful election results to Trump’s benefit.
That can be brought separately as a criminal indictment though. I think what the House was trying to do was KISS and get it voted on with all deliberate speed.
So you also think a private citizen can be impeached by Congress? Prove it.
I don't do strawmen.
 
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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
Not really. There is only one article of impeachment, for inciting a riot. Election tampering, while another serious charge, isn't part of it.
Unfortunately.

If one wishes to be critical of the House’s second impeachment of Trump, it’s that they failed to draft a second Article addressing Trump’s efforts to coerce Georgia election officials to join Trump in a criminal conspiracy to overturn that state’s lawful election results to Trump’s benefit.
That was touched on in the one article of impeachment:

9 President Trump’s conduct on January 6, 2021 was
10 consistent with his prior efforts to subvert and obstruct
11 the certification of the results of the 2020 presidential
12 election. Those prior efforts include, but are not limited
13 to, a phone call on January 2, 2021, in which President
14 Trump urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad
15 Raffensperger to ‘‘find’’ enough votes to overturn the
16 Georgia presidential election results and threatened Mr.
17 Raffensperger if he failed to do so.

 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What I think is that if you believe an American President can be charged with what someone thinks he might have considered you are in serious need of help.
This isn't "what something thinks he might have considered". He made a conference call with his top Justice Department officials and ask them what would happen if he did this and they all said they'd quit, so he didn't do it. That's a whole lot more than a "thought crime".
 
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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What I think is that if you believe an American President can be charged with what someone thinks he might have considered you are in serious need of help.
This isn't "what something thinks he might have considered". He made a conference call with his top Justice Department officials and ask them what would happen if he did this and they all said they'd quit, so he didn't do it. That's a whole lot more than a "thought crime".
Amen! And just imagine what more we don't yet know. We may learn much more in the coming 18 days.
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What we know about the man is that he pays porn stars for sex, lies habitually, incited a mob to stop the Congress from approving his successor, tried to influence state officials to swing at least one state's electors in his favor, called Mexicans rapists, fires people by tweet and put kids into cages along the border--not as a last resort--but as a deterrent. All of that is fact and is not in dispute. Why anyone would vote for this guy again is a mystery
You know no such things. Most of what you claim as fact is a despicable lie and have long been proven as such.. Begging questions simply proves you cannot prove your "facts".
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What I think is that if you believe an American President can be charged with what someone thinks he might have considered you are in serious need of help.
This isn't "what something thinks he might have considered". He made a conference call with his top Justice Department officials and ask them what would happen if he did this and they all said they'd quit, so he didn't do it. That's a whole lot more than a "thought crime".
Seeking information on a possible action is now a crime? Don't think so. Silly concept.
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What we know about the man is that he pays porn stars for sex, lies habitually, incited a mob to stop the Congress from approving his successor, tried to influence state officials to swing at least one state's electors in his favor, called Mexicans rapists, fires people by tweet and put kids into cages along the border--not as a last resort--but as a deterrent. All of that is fact and is not in dispute. Why anyone would vote for this guy again is a mystery
You know no such things. Most of what you claim as fact is a despicable lie and have long been proven as such.. Begging questions simply proves you cannot prove your "facts".
Everything I wrote has been proven.

He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
He incited a mob and was impeached
He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
He called Mexicans rapists
He has fired people via tweet
His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent

All of this is proven.
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What we know about the man is that he pays porn stars for sex, lies habitually, incited a mob to stop the Congress from approving his successor, tried to influence state officials to swing at least one state's electors in his favor, called Mexicans rapists, fires people by tweet and put kids into cages along the border--not as a last resort--but as a deterrent. All of that is fact and is not in dispute. Why anyone would vote for this guy again is a mystery
You know no such things. Most of what you claim as fact is a despicable lie and have long been proven as such.. Begging questions simply proves you cannot prove your "facts".
Everything I wrote has been proven.

He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
He incited a mob and was impeached
He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
He called Mexicans rapists
He has fired people via tweet
His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent

All of this is proven.
He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
So? How exactly is that anybody else's business? If I had his money I would pay Stormy Daniels for sex too.


He incited a mob and was impeached

Absolutely unproven that he incited anybody to do anything or that the protest was a mob. If you believe he was impeached you must also believed that everyone charged with a crime was considered guilty.

He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
Not a crime. And not found guilty

He called Mexicans rapists
He called some Mexicans rapists which is true.

He has fired people via tweet
So? You claim this is illegal for a President to do? Prove it.

His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent
And he was correct. Whining about it proves nothing.
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What we know about the man is that he pays porn stars for sex, lies habitually, incited a mob to stop the Congress from approving his successor, tried to influence state officials to swing at least one state's electors in his favor, called Mexicans rapists, fires people by tweet and put kids into cages along the border--not as a last resort--but as a deterrent. All of that is fact and is not in dispute. Why anyone would vote for this guy again is a mystery
You know no such things. Most of what you claim as fact is a despicable lie and have long been proven as such.. Begging questions simply proves you cannot prove your "facts".
Everything I wrote has been proven.

He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
He incited a mob and was impeached
He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
He called Mexicans rapists
He has fired people via tweet
His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent

All of this is proven.
He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
So? How exactly is that anybody else's business? If I had his money I would pay Stormy Daniels for sex too.
Actually he didn't. He paid her to not talk about it. Difference.
Oh and also he paid the appropriately named David Pecker to buy the story and bury it.

He incited a mob and was impeached
Absolutely unproven that he incited anybody to do anything or that the protest was a mob. If you believe he was impeached you must also believed that everyone charged with a crime was considered guilty.
Impeachment is a fact. That's already been done. It's up to the trial to see what comes out of it.


He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
Not a crime. And not found guilty
Stay tuned. Coming soon to a courtroom near you. There's a lot on the docket gonna take off like a rocket.
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What we know about the man is that he pays porn stars for sex, lies habitually, incited a mob to stop the Congress from approving his successor, tried to influence state officials to swing at least one state's electors in his favor, called Mexicans rapists, fires people by tweet and put kids into cages along the border--not as a last resort--but as a deterrent. All of that is fact and is not in dispute. Why anyone would vote for this guy again is a mystery
You know no such things. Most of what you claim as fact is a despicable lie and have long been proven as such.. Begging questions simply proves you cannot prove your "facts".
Everything I wrote has been proven.

He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
He incited a mob and was impeached
He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
He called Mexicans rapists
He has fired people via tweet
His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent

All of this is proven.
He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
So? How exactly is that anybody else's business? If I had his money I would pay Stormy Daniels for sex too.
Glad you don't deny it--earlier you called it a "fact".
Paying someone for sex is behavior that is reprehensible and beneath the person I want running the nation. So you wouldn't get my vote.
But of course...he lied about it. Right? Are you okay with him lying about it?

He incited a mob and was impeached
Absolutely unproven that he incited anybody to do anything or that the protest was a mob. If you believe he was impeached you must also believed that everyone charged with a crime was considered guilty.
He was impeached...twice.
It is a fact that about 8,000 people lost on election night in 2020...city council elections, county elections, state elections, elections to the US House, US Senate and the Presidency. You know how many are still saying they were cheated? One person. Your blob. Nobody else on the ballot--the same ballot where his name appeared--is saying there was widespread voting irregularities. The rest took their defeat like adults. Not your blob. He had his son say to the crowd, "We're coming for you." His personal attorney appealed for "Trial by combat". When the crowd was storming the nation's capitol, the President didn't call for peace and he didn't deploy the national guard. VP Pence had to do it.

He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
Not a crime. And not found guilty
Again, is this the behavior you want in a President? Someone who tells others to "find votes" for him after he was declared the loser? Really?

He called Mexicans rapists
He called some Mexicans rapists which is true.
Wow.. really? You don't say.

He has fired people via tweet
So? You claim this is illegal for a President to do? Prove it.
Again, where did I say it was illegal?
Its a total dick move. Again, is this the behavior you want from your President?


His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent
And he was correct. Whining about it proves nothing.
Good to see you don't mind kids being put into cages to punish the parents as something to be upset by.

It speaks volumes as to why your blob lost so badly.
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What we know about the man is that he pays porn stars for sex, lies habitually, incited a mob to stop the Congress from approving his successor, tried to influence state officials to swing at least one state's electors in his favor, called Mexicans rapists, fires people by tweet and put kids into cages along the border--not as a last resort--but as a deterrent. All of that is fact and is not in dispute. Why anyone would vote for this guy again is a mystery
You know no such things. Most of what you claim as fact is a despicable lie and have long been proven as such.. Begging questions simply proves you cannot prove your "facts".
Everything I wrote has been proven.

He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
He incited a mob and was impeached
He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
He called Mexicans rapists
He has fired people via tweet
His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent

All of this is proven.
He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
So? How exactly is that anybody else's business? If I had his money I would pay Stormy Daniels for sex too.
Actually he didn't. He paid her to not talk about it. Difference.
Oh and also he paid the appropriately named David Pecker to buy the story and bury it.

He incited a mob and was impeached
Absolutely unproven that he incited anybody to do anything or that the protest was a mob. If you believe he was impeached you must also believed that everyone charged with a crime was considered guilty.
Impeachment is a fact. That's already been done. It's up to the trial to see what comes out of it.


He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
Not a crime. And not found guilty
Stay tuned. Coming soon to a courtroom near you. There's a lot on the docket gonna take off like a rocket.
Of course...what isn't talked about but should be is this:

Why does the President have a relationship--business/personal/etc...--with a porn actress?
Why is that name in the rolodex to start with?
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
The Senate Republicans are about to miss their last chance to get that orange-tinted albatross from around their collective neck.

Voting to convict the a$$hole trump will pi$$ off the RWNJs for a short time, but in the long run, the RWNJs will move on. Without their weasel-in-chief's inspiring daily words, tweeted from a sitting position on his bathroom throne, they will quickly forget.

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
Quickly! Impeach before he escapes!
Better yet, haul him back to DC every Jan 13 and impeach him again.
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What we know about the man is that he pays porn stars for sex, lies habitually, incited a mob to stop the Congress from approving his successor, tried to influence state officials to swing at least one state's electors in his favor, called Mexicans rapists, fires people by tweet and put kids into cages along the border--not as a last resort--but as a deterrent. All of that is fact and is not in dispute. Why anyone would vote for this guy again is a mystery
You know no such things. Most of what you claim as fact is a despicable lie and have long been proven as such.. Begging questions simply proves you cannot prove your "facts".
Everything I wrote has been proven.

He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
He incited a mob and was impeached
He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
He called Mexicans rapists
He has fired people via tweet
His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent

All of this is proven.
He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
So? How exactly is that anybody else's business? If I had his money I would pay Stormy Daniels for sex too.
Glad you don't deny it--earlier you called it a "fact".
Paying someone for sex is behavior that is reprehensible and beneath the person I want running the nation. So you wouldn't get my vote.
But of course...he lied about it. Right? Are you okay with him lying about it?

He incited a mob and was impeached
Absolutely unproven that he incited anybody to do anything or that the protest was a mob. If you believe he was impeached you must also believed that everyone charged with a crime was considered guilty.
He was impeached...twice.
It is a fact that about 8,000 people lost on election night in 2020...city council elections, county elections, state elections, elections to the US House, US Senate and the Presidency. You know how many are still saying they were cheated? One person. Your blob. Nobody else on the ballot--the same ballot where his name appeared--is saying there was widespread voting irregularities. The rest took their defeat like adults. Not your blob. He had his son say to the crowd, "We're coming for you." His personal attorney appealed for "Trial by combat". When the crowd was storming the nation's capitol, the President didn't call for peace and he didn't deploy the national guard. VP Pence had to do it.

He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
Not a crime. And not found guilty
Again, is this the behavior you want in a President? Someone who tells others to "find votes" for him after he was declared the loser? Really?

He called Mexicans rapists
He called some Mexicans rapists which is true.
Wow.. really? You don't say.

He has fired people via tweet
So? You claim this is illegal for a President to do? Prove it.
Again, where did I say it was illegal?
Its a total dick move. Again, is this the behavior you want from your President?


His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent
And he was correct. Whining about it proves nothing.
Good to see you don't mind kids being put into cages to punish the parents as something to be upset by.

It speaks volumes as to why your blob lost so badly.
And again, ALL of the above, plus many more not listed here (e.g. shithole countries, baiting North Korea, shoving a prime minister, taunting football players, repositioning the Bronx in Germany etc etc etc), relate directly to character, not "policy", which puts the lie to all these yahoos bent on making the Rump Cult into something about "right" and "left" simply because they can't deal with the reality. Exactly as Rump himself --- don't like the reality? Just make up a new one.
 

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Democrats have to Impeach Trump because nobody believes Biden is legitimate. When Biden speaks, nobody cares about what his ccp masters told him to say. When Trump speaks, its 24 7 news.
 
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This seems to be a big story on the mainstream news today.
 

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Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Much more from The New York Times...


This certainly adds more weight against Trump in his Senate impeachment trial. What do you think?
What we know about the man is that he pays porn stars for sex, lies habitually, incited a mob to stop the Congress from approving his successor, tried to influence state officials to swing at least one state's electors in his favor, called Mexicans rapists, fires people by tweet and put kids into cages along the border--not as a last resort--but as a deterrent. All of that is fact and is not in dispute. Why anyone would vote for this guy again is a mystery
You know no such things. Most of what you claim as fact is a despicable lie and have long been proven as such.. Begging questions simply proves you cannot prove your "facts".
Everything I wrote has been proven.

He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
He incited a mob and was impeached
He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
He called Mexicans rapists
He has fired people via tweet
His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent

All of this is proven.
He paid Stormy Daniels for sex.
So? How exactly is that anybody else's business? If I had his money I would pay Stormy Daniels for sex too.
Glad you don't deny it--earlier you called it a "fact".
Paying someone for sex is behavior that is reprehensible and beneath the person I want running the nation. So you wouldn't get my vote.
But of course...he lied about it. Right? Are you okay with him lying about it?

He incited a mob and was impeached
Absolutely unproven that he incited anybody to do anything or that the protest was a mob. If you believe he was impeached you must also believed that everyone charged with a crime was considered guilty.
He was impeached...twice.
It is a fact that about 8,000 people lost on election night in 2020...city council elections, county elections, state elections, elections to the US House, US Senate and the Presidency. You know how many are still saying they were cheated? One person. Your blob. Nobody else on the ballot--the same ballot where his name appeared--is saying there was widespread voting irregularities. The rest took their defeat like adults. Not your blob. He had his son say to the crowd, "We're coming for you." His personal attorney appealed for "Trial by combat". When the crowd was storming the nation's capitol, the President didn't call for peace and he didn't deploy the national guard. VP Pence had to do it.

He is recorded telling the Georgia SoS to "find him" votes
Not a crime. And not found guilty
Again, is this the behavior you want in a President? Someone who tells others to "find votes" for him after he was declared the loser? Really?

He called Mexicans rapists
He called some Mexicans rapists which is true.
Wow.. really? You don't say.

He has fired people via tweet
So? You claim this is illegal for a President to do? Prove it.
Again, where did I say it was illegal?
Its a total dick move. Again, is this the behavior you want from your President?


His COS said that the kids in cages are a deterrent
And he was correct. Whining about it proves nothing.
Good to see you don't mind kids being put into cages to punish the parents as something to be upset by.

It speaks volumes as to why your blob lost so badly.
And again, ALL of the above, plus many more not listed here (e.g. shithole countries, baiting North Korea, shoving a prime minister, taunting football players, repositioning the Bronx in Germany etc etc etc), relate directly to character, not "policy", which puts the lie to all these yahoos bent on making the Rump Cult into something about "right" and "left" simply because they can't deal with the reality. Exactly as Rump himself --- don't like the reality? Just make up a new one.
I ran out of ink....

I like how 9thIDdoc went from "You know no such things. Most of what you claim as fact is a despicable lie and have long been proven as such.. " to confirming everything I wrote and just saying "it doesn't matter".
 

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