Another study shows drug touted by Trump doesn’t help coronavirus patients, but it can raise heart attack risk

[Polishprince]

Another study shows drug touted by Trump doesn't help coronavirus patients, but it can raise heart attack risk

Researchers at the University of Albany's School of Public Health analyzed more than 1,400 medical records of hospitalized patients with Covid-19 across 25 hospitals in the New York metro area.

www.cnbc.com

Will it matter to Trumpleheads that the Idiot-in-Chief promoted a dangerous, ineffective drug on the advice of Rudy Giuliani and Laura Ingraham before there was any substantial clinic date of its efficacy?

Don't be silly.

Dear Leader is infallible. If he says it then it's right. If he does it then it's legal. He is the Orange Messiah and he must be obeyed.

What's remarkable in my view is how much joy the Left has in reporting purported Failures like this study. Its almost like they are rooting for the virus against President Trump, because even the cream of their party- Sleepy Joe Biden- doesn't seem to have a chance.

I'm going to have to point this out to a broad I knows who has taken this drug for years for RA- about how dangerous it supposedly is

Got nothing to do with it. It has to do with your dear leader and idol standing up in front of the nation and pimping it as a miracle cure to get everyone back to work so he can start holding his ginned up pep rallies again. All without any of the science of controlled, clinical trials to back it up.....cause he knows more than the doctors and stuff. Oh and by the way, don't look now but Biden is within the margin of error in both Ohio and Texas. Either one of those fall and it's game over.

It's a long, long time to November, Jack. Politically speaking, that is. Texas is reopening. They'll

Imagine being excited over BAD NEWS

Failure isn't "bad news" to our liberal friends

You're forgetting the part where we PREDICTED the failure.

Most people who listened to the doctors knew this was likely to fail and very possibly could be harmful.

It was only the morons who thought Trump had the qualifications to promote such a 'treatment'.

Then why did some doctors use it for testing? You act as if President Trump came up with the idea. He didn’t, scientists and doctors did. Just because he was hopeful it could be used as a treatment makes him a bad guy? You’re an idiot.

If Trump were just being "hopeful," I would agree. He PUSHED and PUSHED and PUSHED, though, made claims it was a "miracle cure." (1) there is no "cure," only treatment. (2) we didn't KNOW that, yet.

Yes, a lot of physicians have prescribed it and it has worked well in combination with an antibiotic in pushing the virus out of the system, at least according to some results. It has to be caught at the very beginning, though, and they're still trying to find a safe AND effective dosage.

Texas IS reopening, and so are other forward looking states like Mississippi, Georgia and Florida.

The liberal plan to destroy the country is coming to naught as America moves ahead. Biden is going to have a hard time convincing Americans to close use back up next year.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Imagine being excited over BAD NEWS

Failure isn't "bad news" to our liberal friends

You're forgetting the part where we PREDICTED the failure.

Most people who listened to the doctors knew this was likely to fail and very possibly could be harmful.

It was only the morons who thought Trump had the qualifications to promote such a 'treatment'.

Then why did some doctors use it for testing? You act as if President Trump came up with the idea. He didn’t, scientists and doctors did. Just because he was hopeful it could be used as a treatment makes him a bad guy? You’re an idiot.

I guess libs feel that the President is wrong for engendering "hope", and instead he should be getting on tV and telling people how hopeless the situation is

yeah. how's that hopey stuff working out so far?

Its working out a lot better than if President Trump went on TV every day and told the people they were doomed and there was no hope for America- and he planned to replace Lazarus' poem at the Statue of Liberty with something by Alighieri "Abandon all hope all ye who enter here, yada yada yada"

sorry. i was working under the impression that instilling hope is for sissy bedwetter mulatto communists, and not for real amerikans. i learned this here on Scumbag United.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Another study shows drug touted by Trump doesn't help coronavirus patients, but it can raise heart attack risk

Researchers at the University of Albany's School of Public Health analyzed more than 1,400 medical records of hospitalized patients with Covid-19 across 25 hospitals in the New York metro area.

www.cnbc.com

Will it matter to Trumpleheads that the Idiot-in-Chief promoted a dangerous, ineffective drug on the advice of Rudy Giuliani and Laura Ingraham before there was any substantial clinic date of its efficacy?

Don't be silly.

Dear Leader is infallible. If he says it then it's right. If he does it then it's legal. He is the Orange Messiah and he must be obeyed.

What's remarkable in my view is how much joy the Left has in reporting purported Failures like this study. Its almost like they are rooting for the virus against President Trump, because even the cream of their party- Sleepy Joe Biden- doesn't seem to have a chance.

I'm going to have to point this out to a broad I knows who has taken this drug for years for RA- about how dangerous it supposedly is

Got nothing to do with it. It has to do with your dear leader and idol standing up in front of the nation and pimping it as a miracle cure to get everyone back to work so he can start holding his ginned up pep rallies again. All without any of the science of controlled, clinical trials to back it up.....cause he knows more than the doctors and stuff. Oh and by the way, don't look now but Biden is within the margin of error in both Ohio and Texas. Either one of those fall and it's game over.

Why do you care if he has campaign rallies?

Why do I care? In the larger sense, I don't. In fact, his campaign rallies would be one way of thinning the stupid that seems to have gripped the people who support him. Unfortunately, those people will go out into the world and possibly infect other innocent people who may or may not support him. That's why it's probably not a good idea right now. And let's face it, it kills him that he can't be out there ginning up his base. Because without these little rah-rah fests, people get to see him for the feckless, incompetent boob that he is.

 

[Dragonlady]

website does not work for me.
But let me see if I have this right. A number of studies of a drug that has been taken by many safely for close to fifty years are showing that the drug may not be safe. Some of these so called studies have given patients double the recommended dosage. Well Duh, there is a recommended dosage for a reason.

Just because a drug is an approved treatment for one illness, or that it doesn't react very badly with some diseases or isn't deadly in others. Covid19 attacks the heart and lungs, so a drug with a side effect of "heart arythmia" is contra-indicated. It has been tried in the past with other corona viruses, included SARS and MERS, and it didn't work for any of them.

After my heart attack, I was prescribed a heart drug, which is taken safely by millions of people, including President Trump. My GP looked at what had been prescribed and freaked. She called my heart specialist and they changed the drug. The drug causes fatal asthma attacks and should not be prescribed for people with asthma. I have asthma.

My sister has a condition which requires this drug for her health and she can't get it because Trump bought up the worldwide supply to cure Americans.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31140-5/fulltext

 

[Billy_Bob]

Different conditions require different dosages of hydroxychloroquine. It is possible that the amount needed to treat Covid effectively is such a high dose that it ups the known risk of heart attack. In other words, it might not be a good application of the drug.

And actual DOCTORS - not the President or politicians - prescribe and administer the drug to their patients they treat as they have for decades for other known illnesses. If a situation / complication arises during treatment the doctors - not the President or politicians - will be the 1st know and be able to deal with it.

This is an approved drug already being used. The primary issue with using it for COVID-19 is that it was President Trump who advocated allowing doctors to use it. this whole thing has actually, in many minds, has validated the thought 1st used as a JOKE -- -the idea that Liberals would attack the President and refuse to use the cure if President Trump some how came up with a cure for Cancer.

A drug combination that has a 91.6% success rate when used early in the disease progression.

 

[easyt65]

A drug combination that has a 91.6% success rate when used early in the disease progression.

91.6% success rate?

My GOD! How criminally irresponsible can one be?! To allow educated, experienced doctors gamble like that with the lives of patients already dying.... What were / are they thinking?!




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[berg80]

Texas IS reopening, and so are other forward looking states like Mississippi, Georgia and Florida.

According to what we know, since the CDC's protocols for re-opening are being ignored, "forward looking" translates to looking forward to a rise in cases.

 

[jknowgood]

Another study shows drug touted by Trump doesn't help coronavirus patients, but it can raise heart attack risk

Researchers at the University of Albany's School of Public Health analyzed more than 1,400 medical records of hospitalized patients with Covid-19 across 25 hospitals in the New York metro area.

www.cnbc.com

Will it matter to Trumpleheads that the Idiot-in-Chief promoted a dangerous, ineffective drug on the advice of Rudy Giuliani and Laura Ingraham before there was any substantial clinic date of its efficacy?

Don't be silly.

Dear Leader is infallible. If he says it then it's right. If he does it then it's legal. He is the Orange Messiah and he must be obeyed.

What's remarkable in my view is how much joy the Left has in reporting purported Failures like this study. Its almost like they are rooting for the virus against President Trump, because even the cream of their party- Sleepy Joe Biden- doesn't seem to have a chance.

I'm going to have to point this out to a broad I knows who has taken this drug for years for RA- about how dangerous it supposedly is

Got nothing to do with it. It has to do with your dear leader and idol standing up in front of the nation and pimping it as a miracle cure to get everyone back to work so he can start holding his ginned up pep rallies again. All without any of the science of controlled, clinical trials to back it up.....cause he knows more than the doctors and stuff. Oh and by the way, don't look now but Biden is within the margin of error in both Ohio and Texas. Either one of those fall and it's game over.

Why do you care if he has campaign rallies?

Why do I care? In the larger sense, I don't. In fact, his campaign rallies would be one way of thinning the stupid that seems to have gripped the people who support him. Unfortunately, those people will go out into the world and possibly infect other innocent people who may or may not support him. That's why it's probably not a good idea right now. And let's face it, it kills him that he can't be out there ginning up his base. Because without these little rah-rah fests, people get to see him for the feckless, incompetent boob that he is.

Trump doesn't need to do the rallies. You bunch of dumbasses and all your shenanigans has boosted his approval rating higher than Obama's at the same times in their presidency.

 

[Oddball]

Texas IS reopening, and so are other forward looking states like Mississippi, Georgia and Florida.

According to what we know, since the CDC's protocols for re-opening are being ignored, "forward looking" translates to looking forward to a rise in cases.

"Forward looking" means telling fearmongering douchebags like you to suck a bag of dicks.

 

[Polishprince]

Imagine being excited over BAD NEWS

Failure isn't "bad news" to our liberal friends

You're forgetting the part where we PREDICTED the failure.

Most people who listened to the doctors knew this was likely to fail and very possibly could be harmful.

It was only the morons who thought Trump had the qualifications to promote such a 'treatment'.

Then why did some doctors use it for testing? You act as if President Trump came up with the idea. He didn’t, scientists and doctors did. Just because he was hopeful it could be used as a treatment makes him a bad guy? You’re an idiot.

I guess libs feel that the President is wrong for engendering "hope", and instead he should be getting on tV and telling people how hopeless the situation is

yeah. how's that hopey stuff working out so far?

Its working out a lot better than if President Trump went on TV every day and told the people they were doomed and there was no hope for America- and he planned to replace Lazarus' poem at the Statue of Liberty with something by Alighieri "Abandon all hope all ye who enter here, yada yada yada"

sorry. i was working under the impression that instilling hope is for sissy bedwetter mulatto communists, and not for real amerikans. i learned this here on Scumbag United.

I'm not sure where you got that idea. Conservatives are the Optimistic Ideology, libs preach the Despair that America's best days are far behind and we face a future of deprivation and poverty where millions won't be able to afford their own ride even. OTOH, Conservatives seek greatness, and realize that at the end of the road, we can have glory with Almighty God forever.

 

[jknowgood]

Texas IS reopening, and so are other forward looking states like Mississippi, Georgia and Florida.

According to what we know, since the CDC's protocols for re-opening are being ignored, "forward looking" translates to looking forward to a rise in cases.

Looking for a rise in cases? You are the poster child for the reason we need to destroy liberalism.

 

[berg80]

"On Thursday, a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that the drug didn’t appear to help hospitalized patients with Covid-19.

That study, funded by the National Institutes of Health and conducted by researchers at New York-Presbyterian Hospital and Columbia University Irving Medical Center in New York City, looked at 1,376 consecutive patients who showed up at the emergency room with symptoms of coronavirus.

Nearly 60%, or 811 of the patients, received the drug within 48 hours and were found, on average, to be more severely ill than those who didn’t receive the drug, the researchers said. They said the study didn’t find any potential benefit or harm from the drug, adding a rigorous, randomized clinical trial is needed."

There's an adage in the world of medical care. "Do no harm." Giving patients a drug that has no efficacy while increasing the risk for heart problems is doing harm.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Imagine being excited over BAD NEWS

Failure isn't "bad news" to our liberal friends

You're forgetting the part where we PREDICTED the failure.

Most people who listened to the doctors knew this was likely to fail and very possibly could be harmful.

It was only the morons who thought Trump had the qualifications to promote such a 'treatment'.

Then why did some doctors use it for testing? You act as if President Trump came up with the idea. He didn’t, scientists and doctors did. Just because he was hopeful it could be used as a treatment makes him a bad guy? You’re an idiot.

I guess libs feel that the President is wrong for engendering "hope", and instead he should be getting on tV and telling people how hopeless the situation is

yeah. how's that hopey stuff working out so far?

Its working out a lot better than if President Trump went on TV every day and told the people they were doomed and there was no hope for America- and he planned to replace Lazarus' poem at the Statue of Liberty with something by Alighieri "Abandon all hope all ye who enter here, yada yada yada"

sorry. i was working under the impression that instilling hope is for sissy bedwetter mulatto communists, and not for real amerikans. i learned this here on Scumbag United.

I'm not sure where you got that idea. Conservatives are the Optimistic Ideology, libs preach the Despair that America's best days are far behind and we face a future of deprivation and poverty where millions won't be able to afford their own ride even. OTOH, Conservatives seek greatness, and realize that at the end of the road, we can have glory with Almighty God forever.

i guess you had to be aware during 2008 to 2016. i did not know that you apparently woke up from a coma some time after that.

 

[Desperado]

Im so sick and tired of hearing all you fucks cheer for the Chinese.
Trump thought the drug was worth a try, no harm there but it seems that you people are so fucking happy the drug did not work, Is that because you hate Trump that much you are willing to see more Americans die or are you just rooting for the Chinese because you are into their type of Communism?

 

[Billy_Bob]

A drug combination that has a 91.6% success rate when used early in the disease progression.

91.6% success rate?

My GOD! How criminally irresponsible can one be?! To allow educated, experienced doctors gamble like that with the lives of patients already dying.... What were / are they thinking?!




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And the Heart arrhythmias only show up in persons who have been taking larger doses over one month or longer. The course for COVID 19 is just 10 days at a low dose. There is literally little or no chance of a heart problem at that dosage.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Imagine being excited over BAD NEWS

Its not as much bad news as it is libs and mainstream desperate to keep this propaganda and fear train moving as more is being exposed about this virus.

 

[dudmuck]

The Trump death clock is up to 54k.

So you are trying to blame Coronavirus deaths on President Trump?

Are you adjusting thatnumber based on:

The number of Elderly people Cuomo sentenced to die?

The 'padded' death rate numbers libs are counting to make that number go up?
-- Doc, he fell out pf a 12 story window.
----'Coronavirus death!'

The number of Americans who would have died had the Democrats been in charge?
- While the President imposed his life-saving China Travel Ban Joe Biden was leading the Democratic Party opposition to it, calling it Xenophobic while Democrats were authoring legislation to prevent him from imposing the ban...Pelosi and Cuomo were telling people not to change their lifestyles, to herd in large numbers, lick windows, come to Chinatown, ride the subway, etc....


At a time when America should be coming together you have adopted the traitorous Democrats' mantra of 'Never let a good crisis go to waste' and are attempting to use a pandemic caused by China that has killed hundreds of thousands of people to sate your insatiable hatred for the current US President.

'Pathetic' and 'Despicable' do not scratch the surface of what you vermin are....



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Coronavirus deaths are under-counted due to lack of testing.

Biden criticized Trumps lacks of urgency in china travel ban. Not the ban itself.

 

[OldLady]

The primary issue with using it for COVID-19 is that it was President Trump who advocated allowing doctors to use it.

In the USMB world, that is true. Those people are ignoring the studies that seem positive and Trump supporters are ignoring the studies that have shown serious side effects.

When the FDA relaxed it's restrictions on hydroxychloroquine, it asked all doctors prescribing it to document the particulars and report the results, whether or not they were in an official study.

There should be a lot of evidence to sift through pretty soon. If it works, and a safe dosage is figured out, that will be GREAT.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Im so sick and tired of hearing all you fucks cheer for the Chinese.
Trump thought the drug was worth a try, no harm there but it seems that you people are so fucking happy the drug did not work, Is that because you hate Trump that much you are willing to see more Americans die or are you just rooting for the Chinese because you are into their type of Communism?

No Trump thought the drug was a magic bullet because Fox News touted it and then several of his friends texted him the same. So he stands up in front of the nation and pimps it as a miracle cure. All without the benefit of science and study. It was just his way to try to find the shortest path from pandemic to back to normal. But, relax, you have nothing to complain about anymore. The NIH has heard your cry of (faux) outrage...and are now studying the drug, you know, the way they're supposed to do drug studies...clinically.
NIH begins clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat COVID-19

 

[OldLady]

Im so sick and tired of hearing all you fucks cheer for the Chinese.
Trump thought the drug was worth a try, no harm there but it seems that you people are so fucking happy the drug did not work, Is that because you hate Trump that much you are willing to see more Americans die or are you just rooting for the Chinese because you are into their type of Communism?

It was already being tried when Trump caught the end of a sentence somewhere and started calling it a miracle cure. That's how he heard it about it. It doesn't seem to have much effect after the Virus really makes you sick. People who present to the ER with it are already REALLY SICK. Clinical trials on patients who have just come down with mild symptoms have better response to the drug. At least from what I've seen of study results.