Another Reason Why The Left Will Win

[Samson]

The train's off the track, down the river, and sinking in the ocean.

 

[Bfgrn]

Famous Leftists Through History

I hate to be the one to break it to you Frank, but you just posted pictures of famous authoritarians throughout history...AND, While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer

It is your parochial indoctrination that confuses you Frank, it is an epidemic affliction of right wing pea brains...and you were voted # 1 Frank...

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.
Me

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler was an extreme social reactionary (Right Winger), dumbass

You seem to lack the ability to see the entire spectrum, and nibble on tiny pieces.

And the language that you choose in responding to the poster marks you as being less

than cultured.

Try to remember that these are your colleagues and you are out in public.

For your edification, all the totalitarian doctrines share enough similarities to be considered in the same category.

At the opposite end of the political spectrum would be those that value the individual over the collective.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hitler was an extreme social reactionary (Right Winger), dumbass

LOL

Yeah, keep snorting the Kool Aid.

National Socialism. Hitler was a Leftist, a Socialist; he was not interested in individual rights and liberty.

Epic Fail, my Friend

 

[Bfgrn]

Hitler was an extreme social reactionary (Right Winger), dumbass

LOL

Yeah, keep snorting the Kool Aid.

National Socialism. Hitler was a Leftist, a Socialist; he was not interested in individual rights and liberty.

Epic Fail, my Friend

Thank you Frank for pointing out another epidemic affliction of right wing pea brains...WORDS and misnomers...

There was nothing socialistic about the Nazi party...Hitler practiced one-person rule.

As Hitler himself wrote:

"The main plank in the Nationalist Socialist program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual and the Marxist concept of humanity and to substitute for them the folk community, rooted in the soil and bound together by the bond of its common blood."

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Hitler was an extreme social reactionary (Right Winger), dumbass

LOL

Yeah, keep snorting the Kool Aid.

National Socialism. Hitler was a Leftist, a Socialist; he was not interested in individual rights and liberty.

Epic Fail, my Friend

He was a nationalist, an anti-communist, anti-gay, racist, and believed that a return to traditional values was necessary

sound like anyone else?

 

[L.K.Eder]

Hitler was an extreme social reactionary (Right Winger), dumbass

LOL

Yeah, keep snorting the Kool Aid.

National Socialism. Hitler was a Leftist, a Socialist; he was not interested in individual rights and liberty.

Epic Fail, my Friend

yawn, no!

 

[AkronGuy]

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The brilliant and, to date, successful strategy of the left, to control the academy and produce the shock troops of the future, marches on.

But in the end, many people shake off the Liberal teachings of higher education, personally, I feel as though that moderation is best in education and most everything in general. Pragmaticism is always the best route. Idealism is ignorance and blindness.

And what do you mean by shock troops ? Because intellectuals aren't anything you could consider "shock troops" if that's what you mean. Intellectuals are by their very nature, the most vulnerable of the elite class in any society especially in the 20th century and in all of history. They're generally speaking, idealists, power rests in the hands of opprotunists and pragmaticists.

And if you mean actual troops, their demographic is center right for the most part. Democrats aren't generally Liberals, and Republicans certaintly aren't and they're both about even in the armed forces and American society as a whole.

The latest chapter involves the teaching of the history of unions. To many of us, unions are important, but, then, so is the elevator and we don't teach its history.

They are important, but at the sametime, many're corrupt and work against their workers. Which pains me to great lengths to say that after having ancestors and blood relations die, be wounded, terrorised, oppressed, denied civil and human rights, and deal with the horror of guerilla warfare to secure the human right of organization.

But of course those same liberals and socialists have turned their back upon those same people and their ancestors, and those people and their ancestors became essentially ******* to Priviledged Liberals who have their priviledged upon the lives and discrimination and disenfranchisement of said people. Liberals and those that support unions should realize that people they call "Hillbilly" and "White Trash" are the ones who died for their rights and priviledge, and are essentially only Republicans and conservatives because of the racism and abandonment by socialists and liberals.

No, the real reason for the new curriculum is to indoctrinate in the successes of socialism.

Some aspects of socialism to me are good, some aren't. We need to teach both the positives and negatives, everything has it's ups and downs. To ignore it is to repeat those same mistakes. I do realize we have some socialistic policies and programs, but how much more do we need ? And at what cost ? And who will pay the price ultimately in the end ? And who ultimately benefit ?

According to one report, the curriculum contains the following statement: "free market competition, an outdated nostrum."

Unrestrained free market capitalism is a horrific idea, as is outright socialism , the right amount of both is about balance.

"That could soon change in Wisconsin, if Democratic Governor Jim Doyle signs a bill requiring the state's Superintendent of Public Instruction to include the history of organized labor and the collective bargaining process in state social studies standards. Teachers draw on those standards as they prepare students for standardized tests.

I wonder if they'll teach how socialists view the ancestors and the people who died and fought for the unions as the KKK views black people ?

. The History of the Successes of Capitalism

Capitalism is successful, it enables you typing on your computer. But of course we've seen the horrors of unrestrained capitalism and I think it should be imperative to teach but the greats of capitalism and the horrors of it. For instance, they should be required to read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle and the writings and recordings of unionizers and the actions of the industrialists to thrawt unions.

2. Intelligent Design.

What I don't get, is that the Christians who believe in that, obviously haven't read or learned how to connect passages in different parts of the Bible. If they did, then ID would be of no consequence.

Or they don't have enough respect in their God to believe he'd be simplistic.

3. The Grotesque History of Communism

It was grotesque.

The Cultural Revolution.

The Holodomor.

The ethnic cleansings.

The Gulags and concentration camps.

Their genocides.

Their repression of basic human rights.

The Khmer Rouge.

North Korea.

The Purges.

Stalinism.

The executions of tens of millions of innocent people.

The list goes on and on. Do you really think the Soviets were so great that they welcomed Hitler in with open arms ?

 

[AkronGuy]

The brilliant and, to date, successful strategy of the left, to control the academy and produce the shock troops of the future, marches on.

The latest chapter involves the teaching of the history of unions. To many of us, unions are important, but, then, so is the elevator and we don't teach its history.

No, the real reason for the new curriculum is to indoctrinate in the successes of socialism.

According to one report, the curriculum contains the following statement: "free market competition, an outdated nostrum."

Check it out:

"That could soon change in Wisconsin, if Democratic Governor Jim Doyle signs a bill requiring the state's Superintendent of Public Instruction to include the history of organized labor and the collective bargaining process in state social studies standards. Teachers draw on those standards as they prepare students for standardized tests.

Doyle has said he will sign the law. The measure passed the Wisconsin Senate on October 27, supported by all Democrats and three Republicans; it had already passed the state's assembly.

While the law does not mandate that labor history be taught in schools, its presence in state standards means some schools will likely teach the subject, and that the state will provide assistance to schools that do. "
Labor Scores Long-Sought History Victory in Wisconsin Schools - Working In These Times


Reasonable, I am sure to our friends on the left, but what would the feelings be if the following were inserted into curriculum:

1. The History of the Successes of Capitalism

2. Intelligent Design.

3. The Grotesque History of Communism

4. How McCarty Saved America.

To many of us, unions are important, but, then, so is the elevator and we don't teach its history.

No, the real reason for the new curriculum is to indoctrinate in the successes of socialism.

If we did teach The History of The Elevator, I'm sure you'd complain that it:

1. Included too little information regarding how Elevators Helped Capitalism

2. Included too much information regarding how Elevators Helped Labor Unions

And
3. Elevators in the Kremlin

4. Elevators and the Rise of Communism

5. Red Elevators

6. Soviet Elevators Installed in Satellite Nations.

Does that give you a lift?

Elevators that helped the most brutal regeme sp? in the history of mankind ?

 

[Mr Natural]

How McCarthy saved America?

What are you, fucking nuts?

 

[AkronGuy]

I find it truly ironic that a female would be so far to the right PC...

When you consider that without the courage of the progressive movement and your hated 'left' you'd still be considered a second class citizen with no right to vote, choose your mate or raise your children as you see fit...

You posted a thread on how precious your children are, but without the labor movement and unions fighting for workers' rights, you'd be sending the little ones off to work in a factory for pennies a day...and you would spend your day hoping they come home in one piece and pray they don't come home in a box...and they wouldn't be gone for 8 hour days or 40 hour weeks...

You 'claim' the 'leftist' is naive to the realities of human nature...so tell me PC, are we to believe that workers' rights would have been accomplished by the generosity of corporations and industrialists?

Unions and workers rights weren't earned by leftists, they were helped by leftists, but it was earned by people who were too tired, poor, hungry, oppressed to care about right or left, all their cared about was their rights, their family, and their future. I have living blood relations who fought in the union wars in Appalachia. They and their contemporaries weren't huddled in holes in the ground dodging Pinkerton bullets with leftists, with a few exceptions and those exceptions should be highlighted. Leftists weren't starving and freezing, they weren't watching their children die by bullets, beatings, starvation, cold or diesease. And in the end, those well meaning leftists gradually turned their back on those same people, and then stabbed them in the back, just like every other American who've as a group came their with a political or economic agenda. And yet they have the nerve to treat us like filth, with no reason for our general cultural outlooks on many things. Even your President slung the same racist filth that leftists generally sling at us. Of course you're going to be a very gun orientated culture when there's been at most in the last 350 years of Appalachian history 40 years of true peace, 0 years of prosperity and having to use said guns to survive for many people for most of our history. Or how many of us are xenophobic, of course as a culture you're going to be xenophobic when every single interaction has been either of exploitation, abuse, crimes against humanity, serfdom, racism and war.

Go tell my great uncle who lost his wife and children to Pinkerton terrorism how you helped him in his struggle.

 

[AkronGuy]

Hitler was an extreme social reactionary (Right Winger), dumbass

And Lenin wasn't an extreme social reactionary ?

 

[AkronGuy]

I wonder if these kids ever refused to do an assignment because it conflicted with their religious beliefs or they decided to sleep during class?

The guy holding the iron pipe probably discouraged any discipline problems.

Breaker boys got dealth with by their Elders. If struck by guy with an iron pipe, the guy with the iron pipe would've been found on a ridge after being struck with lead. The kids in their had many kin living outside of the jurisdiction of the coal companies and were generally outlaws, and they dispensed mountain justice against those who had it coming. And more than likely that man was shipped in from out of the area. So they had no political reason to not kill him.

 

[AkronGuy]

Yup, gotta give the Marxists credit for that, brilliant!

it can all be traced o the First International

yet the OP quoted nothing about AMrx

Mother Jones is a saint, she was leading it, directing it, and was a saint. She is the inspiration for the song "She'll becomin' aroun' the mountain when she comes". It was code that Mother Jones was on the way along with armed help and food.

 

[Samson]

I wonder if these kids ever refused to do an assignment because it conflicted with their religious beliefs or they decided to sleep during class?

The guy holding the iron pipe probably discouraged any discipline problems.

Breaker boys got dealth with by their Elders. If struck by guy with an iron pipe, the guy with the iron pipe would've been found on a ridge after being struck with lead. The kids in their had many kin living outside of the jurisdiction of the coal companies and were generally outlaws, and they dispensed mountain justice against those who had it coming. And more than likely that man was shipped in from out of the area. So they had no political reason to not kill him.

So....the guy with the pipe is just there to boost moral?

 

[Luissa]

The brilliant and, to date, successful strategy of the left, to control the academy and produce the shock troops of the future, marches on.

The latest chapter involves the teaching of the history of unions. To many of us, unions are important, but, then, so is the elevator and we don't teach its history.

No, the real reason for the new curriculum is to indoctrinate in the successes of socialism.

According to one report, the curriculum contains the following statement: "free market competition, an outdated nostrum."

Check it out:

"That could soon change in Wisconsin, if Democratic Governor Jim Doyle signs a bill requiring the state's Superintendent of Public Instruction to include the history of organized labor and the collective bargaining process in state social studies standards. Teachers draw on those standards as they prepare students for standardized tests.

Doyle has said he will sign the law. The measure passed the Wisconsin Senate on October 27, supported by all Democrats and three Republicans; it had already passed the state's assembly.

While the law does not mandate that labor history be taught in schools, its presence in state standards means some schools will likely teach the subject, and that the state will provide assistance to schools that do. "
Labor Scores Long-Sought History Victory in Wisconsin Schools - Working In These Times


Reasonable, I am sure to our friends on the left, but what would the feelings be if the following were inserted into curriculum:

1. The History of the Successes of Capitalism

2. Intelligent Design.

3. The Grotesque History of Communism

4. How McCarty Saved America.

You might want to look into the fact Texas produces most of the text books for the country, purchases the a very high number on text book, and publishers don't like to change things for other states. And the board of 15 people who decide what will be taught in social studies has 10 republicans on it.
And why would they teach McCarthy saved american? He went on a witch hunt, and half the people he accused of being a communist had no communist ties. And last time I checked, it isn't a crime to be a communist in this country. And PS they already teach the successes of Capitalism in schools, it is called Economics.
So I suggest you take off the tin foil hat, and stop believing everything people tell you.

 

[AkronGuy]

Famous Leftists Through History

I hate to be the one to break it to you Frank, but you just posted pictures of famous authoritarians throughout history...AND, While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer

It is your parochial indoctrination that confuses you Frank, it is an epidemic affliction of right wing pea brains...and you were voted # 1 Frank...

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.
Me

Yes a someone isn't a leftist because they do things you don't agree with. The first one ? That shouldn't even be up there, the rest , save for Hitler, were/are leftists.

And cept for Castro, Just as bad as Hitler.

 

[AkronGuy]

I wonder if these kids ever refused to do an assignment because it conflicted with their religious beliefs or they decided to sleep during class?

The guy holding the iron pipe probably discouraged any discipline problems.

Breaker boys got dealth with by their Elders. If struck by guy with an iron pipe, the guy with the iron pipe would've been found on a ridge after being struck with lead. The kids in their had many kin living outside of the jurisdiction of the coal companies and were generally outlaws, and they dispensed mountain justice against those who had it coming. And more than likely that man was shipped in from out of the area. So they had no political reason to not kill him.

So....the guy with the pipe is just there to boost moral?

To make sure they keep up and don't slack off, the pole has many uses, the biggest cause of injury and death save for the dust, was slag.

Appalachian culture was/is clan based, and that makes for large amount of blood relatives who're extremely familiar to each other. At work, their father if still able and working or alive, would be told of his son's work problem, and the man would discipline him corporally for certain things, but he would never hit him with the pole. That would be certain death, during those times, and to an extent now, most justice is dealth with informally. The child who he struck with the pipe would've been taken coming out of the bar, or from or to work, or from his house and they would beat his children and kill his wife. Men in those positions, were either outcasts and hated, or outsiders and hated because of their position. Their lives held as much value to them as the worker's lives to the owners.

 

[AkronGuy]

The brilliant and, to date, successful strategy of the left, to control the academy and produce the shock troops of the future, marches on.

The latest chapter involves the teaching of the history of unions. To many of us, unions are important, but, then, so is the elevator and we don't teach its history.

No, the real reason for the new curriculum is to indoctrinate in the successes of socialism.

According to one report, the curriculum contains the following statement: "free market competition, an outdated nostrum."

Check it out:

"That could soon change in Wisconsin, if Democratic Governor Jim Doyle signs a bill requiring the state's Superintendent of Public Instruction to include the history of organized labor and the collective bargaining process in state social studies standards. Teachers draw on those standards as they prepare students for standardized tests.

Doyle has said he will sign the law. The measure passed the Wisconsin Senate on October 27, supported by all Democrats and three Republicans; it had already passed the state's assembly.

While the law does not mandate that labor history be taught in schools, its presence in state standards means some schools will likely teach the subject, and that the state will provide assistance to schools that do. "
Labor Scores Long-Sought History Victory in Wisconsin Schools - Working In These Times


Reasonable, I am sure to our friends on the left, but what would the feelings be if the following were inserted into curriculum:

1. The History of the Successes of Capitalism

2. Intelligent Design.

3. The Grotesque History of Communism

4. How McCarty Saved America.

You might want to look into the fact Texas produces most of the text books for the country, purchases the a very high number on text book, and publishers don't like to change things for other states. And the board of 15 people who decide what will be taught in social studies has 10 republicans on it.
And why would they teach McCarthy saved american? He went on a witch hunt, and half the people he accused of being a communist had no communist ties. And last time I checked, it isn't a crime to be a communist in this country. And PS they already teach the successes of Capitalism in schools, it is called Economics.
So I suggest you take off the tin foil hat, and stop believing everything people tell you.

lol I fell for her trolling too. ::shakes head:: Ten minutes I'll never get back.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Hitler was an extreme social reactionary (Right Winger), dumbass

And Lenin wasn't an extreme social reactionary ?

fuck lenin