Another Executive Order and the WAR ON COAL CONTINUES!

[Synthaholic]

Obama Halts Federal Coal Leasing Citing Climate Change..

Well the fucktard has done it again...One more worthless EO to try and kill Coal Mines. The EO halts all new leases and stops lease renewals. This Socialist piece of crap cant get out of office fast enough for me.

The U.S. temporarily halts coal leasing on federal lands to reassess its policy in light of global warming.

The Obama administration on Friday brought a temporary halt to new coal mining leases on federal lands while it conducts a three-year review meant to bring coal leasing in line with U.S. climate policy.

The moratorium comes just days after Obama said in his State of the Union Address that he would push to change the way the government manages its oil and coal resources to reflect the costs they impose on both taxpayers and the planet. The moratorium takes place immediately, but does not halt coal mining and production currently underway.

“How do we manage the program that is consistent with our climate change objective? There is no short answer,” Interior Secretary Sally Jewell said during a news conference. “It is also clear that we need to take into account the science we have now on the environment and climate change.”

About 40 percent of all the coal produced in the U.S. comes from mines on federal public lands, mainly in the West. As of the end of 2014, there were 308 active coal mining leases on more than 464,000 acres of public lands in Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico, Montana and Colorado, with an additional 10,500 acres in Kentucky, Alabama and West Virginia.

Burning coal and other fossil fuels for electricity is the largest single source of human-caused greenhouse gas emissions driving climate change, accounting for about 31 percent of all U.S. greenhouse gases.

Read more: Obama Halts Federal Coal Leasing Citing Climate Change

Does anyone know how many Executive Orders Obama has now issued?

Not as many as Bush. Or St. Ronnie Of The RKO Studio.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

President Trump will undo this.

Should auction off the coal mines to the highest bidder, and then pump the runoff water to the nearest Democrat city, make Flint look like Perrier water

No he won't, there isn't going to be President Trump.

Dream on. Only the radical LWNJ openly embrace Socialism, gun control and hate America and both your candidates are just that

This is off topic of course, but I have to know. Just off the top of your head, Frank, what odds would you give that Donald Trump will be elected president this year?

All 57 states are in play. The question is how big a mess will President Trump inherit from his predecessor. The parts of the Middle East that Obama couldn't turn over to his brothers in Jihad, he let develop nuclear weapons, he's done all he could to destroy the American dream in a way no outside enemy ever could and it's the biggest house of cards economy in all human history

 

[jc456]

Who are the coal folks going to sell coal? Every power company in the US is using cheaper natural gas.

Besides, I was kinda sick hearing about dead miners every week.

except,

Arch Coal, second biggest in the USA, files for bankruptcy.

Arch Coal files for bankruptcy, hit by mining downturn

#1 Peabody Coal has seen their stock lose 99% of its value over the past 3 years, going from 400 to under 4.

Peabody Energy Corp.

Current US coal-related jobs are about 80,000 in mining and 30,000 in transportation. That's less than 0.1% of the workforce. The coal industry had been dying since long before Obama was elected. Coal is now insignificant to the US jobs picture, and the continued shrinkage of that industry means many pluses and few minuses.

Globally, India and China have stopped expanding their coal use, so the world has probably passed its peak coal point. That means the forecast for the coal industry is continued contraction.

SNL: Goldman makes case for 'peak coal,' expects pricing pressure and demand, output fall | SNL

Huffington Post article from Berlin:

Coal Surge Sullies Country's Clean Energy Image

"BERLIN (AP) — The share of electricity generated from coal rose in Germany last year as the country seeks to achieve its ambitious aim of switching off all nuclear power plants by 2022."

 

[OnePercenter]

Who are the coal folks going to sell coal? Every power company in the US is using cheaper natural gas.

Besides, I was kinda sick hearing about dead miners every week.

except,

Arch Coal, second biggest in the USA, files for bankruptcy.

Arch Coal files for bankruptcy, hit by mining downturn

#1 Peabody Coal has seen their stock lose 99% of its value over the past 3 years, going from 400 to under 4.

Peabody Energy Corp.

Current US coal-related jobs are about 80,000 in mining and 30,000 in transportation. That's less than 0.1% of the workforce. The coal industry had been dying since long before Obama was elected. Coal is now insignificant to the US jobs picture, and the continued shrinkage of that industry means many pluses and few minuses.

Globally, India and China have stopped expanding their coal use, so the world has probably passed its peak coal point. That means the forecast for the coal industry is continued contraction.

SNL: Goldman makes case for 'peak coal,' expects pricing pressure and demand, output fall | SNL

Huffington Post article from Berlin:

Coal Surge Sullies Country's Clean Energy Image

"BERLIN (AP) — The share of electricity generated from coal rose in Germany last year as the country seeks to achieve its ambitious aim of switching off all nuclear power plants by 2022."

The top ten mining companies in the US, in nine years have been fined more than $200,000,000.00 and have had 119 employee deaths, which were mostly attributable to safety violations.

Coal mine deaths, fines and significant violations for the 10 largest coal mine controllers, 2000-2009 | The Coal Truth | Investigative Reporting Workshop

 

[jc456]

Who are the coal folks going to sell coal? Every power company in the US is using cheaper natural gas.

Besides, I was kinda sick hearing about dead miners every week.

except,

Arch Coal, second biggest in the USA, files for bankruptcy.

Arch Coal files for bankruptcy, hit by mining downturn

#1 Peabody Coal has seen their stock lose 99% of its value over the past 3 years, going from 400 to under 4.

Peabody Energy Corp.

Current US coal-related jobs are about 80,000 in mining and 30,000 in transportation. That's less than 0.1% of the workforce. The coal industry had been dying since long before Obama was elected. Coal is now insignificant to the US jobs picture, and the continued shrinkage of that industry means many pluses and few minuses.

Globally, India and China have stopped expanding their coal use, so the world has probably passed its peak coal point. That means the forecast for the coal industry is continued contraction.

SNL: Goldman makes case for 'peak coal,' expects pricing pressure and demand, output fall | SNL

Huffington Post article from Berlin:

Coal Surge Sullies Country's Clean Energy Image

"BERLIN (AP) — The share of electricity generated from coal rose in Germany last year as the country seeks to achieve its ambitious aim of switching off all nuclear power plants by 2022."

The top ten mining companies in the US, in nine years have been fined more than $200,000,000.00 and have had 119 employee deaths, which were mostly attributable to safety violations.

Coal mine deaths, fines and significant violations for the 10 largest coal mine controllers, 2000-2009 | The Coal Truth | Investigative Reporting Workshop

I'll bet it is one of the most if not the most dangerous job in the world. Bar none. what's your point?

 

[OnePercenter]

I'll bet it is one of the most if not the most dangerous job in the world. Bar none. what's your point?

Ranks number 10 as most dangerous.

My point is that the owners are irresponsible.

 

[jc456]

I'll bet it is one of the most if not the most dangerous job in the world. Bar none. what's your point?

Ranks number 10 as most dangerous.

My point is that the owners are irresponsible.

and?

 

[Billy_Bob]

I'll bet it is one of the most if not the most dangerous job in the world. Bar none. what's your point?

Ranks number 10 as most dangerous.

My point is that the owners are irresponsible.

Wrong again... Most are very responsible.. Its idiots like you who dont know what those men do every day to keep your lights on, make your cars, give us the best health care in the world and food in your fridge... Mining is dangerous work and it take smart people to do it safely. There will always be deaths and accidents simply by the type of work it is.

Now grow up, put on your big boy underwear... Your ignorance is stunning..

 

[Vandalshandle]

I'll bet it is one of the most if not the most dangerous job in the world. Bar none. what's your point?

Ranks number 10 as most dangerous.

My point is that the owners are irresponsible.

Wrong again... Most are very responsible.. Its idiots like you who dont know what those men do every day to keep your lights on, make your cars, give us the best health care in the world and food in your fridge... Mining is dangerous work and it take smart people to do it safely. There will always be deaths and accidents simply by the type of work it is.

Now grow up, put on your big boy underwear... Your ignorance is stunning..

Thank you, Mr. Peabody, for the broccoli in my refrigerator!

 

[OnePercenter]

I'll bet it is one of the most if not the most dangerous job in the world. Bar none. what's your point?

Ranks number 10 as most dangerous.

My point is that the owners are irresponsible.

Wrong again... Most are very responsible.. Its idiots like you who dont know what those men do every day to keep your lights on, make your cars, give us the best health care in the world and food in your fridge... Mining is dangerous work and it take smart people to do it safely. There will always be deaths and accidents simply by the type of work it is.

Now grow up, put on your big boy underwear... Your ignorance is stunning..

Here are 10 that aren't responsible.

Coal Mines Keep Operating Despite Injuries, Violations And Millions In Fines

 

[OnePercenter]

Bottom line: Less coal because natural gas is cheaper.

 

[Andylusion]

I'll bet it is one of the most if not the most dangerous job in the world. Bar none. what's your point?

Ranks number 10 as most dangerous.

My point is that the owners are irresponsible.

Dude, I doubt you have run anything even remotely dangerous in your life. It's easy for the arm-chair quarterback to claim every play is wrong, when you don't have any responsibilities.

But that's left-wing politics at it's finest. No accountability, but tons of dogmatic judgements against people they don't know.

 

[Andylusion]

Bottom line: Less coal because natural gas is cheaper.

Yeah, but at some point that isn't going to be the case. Yes nat.gas is cheaper NOW... but how many THOUSANDS of posts on this forum, claimed "gasoline is going up and up, and will continue going up forever!." Remember that? Remember 2008, when everyone claimed the oil companies were going to drive the price up forever? Remember OPEC, everyone everywhere was screaming about OPEC, and how they were keep pushing the price up until the end of time?

And now where are we? The price is lower today, than it was in the 1920s. 25¢ in 2015 dollars is $2.96. I can fill up for $1.49 /gal. Half the cost of what it was in the 1920s.

My point is, you don't know. You do not know what the future holds.

Natural gas could triple in price. Quadruple in price. You don't know. None of us knows.

And the danger is, what happens when we put all of our energy eggs in one single basket?

Venezuela did this. 70% plus, of their national power production is all hydro power. All one source. Then they had a massive drought, and the water levels were too low, and..........

Power outage plunges most of Venezuela into darkness

Almost the entire country went entirely dark.

Now they have energy rationing.

Venezuela to Begin Nationwide Power Rationing

What do you think is going to happen here in America, if we place all of our energy needs into one source, Nat.Gas, and then we end up with shortages of Nat.Gas?

Will that happen? Who knows. But this is why we need diversity of energy sources. You are begging for trouble if you don't.

 

[Old Rocks]

Of course we know what the future holds. A lot of solar and wind power. The only thing that can change that is if they finally get nuclear fusion going. Coal is where horses were about 1910. Another generation, and it will be almost gone.

 

[jc456]

Of course we know what the future holds. A lot of solar and wind power. The only thing that can change that is if they finally get nuclear fusion going. Coal is where horses were about 1910. Another generation, and it will be almost gone.

except you of course can't back that up. just more nonsense. Coal and natural gas will be used for a very long time and wind and solar will fade. They're fading today.

 

[Andylusion]

Of course we know what the future holds. A lot of solar and wind power. The only thing that can change that is if they finally get nuclear fusion going. Coal is where horses were about 1910. Another generation, and it will be almost gone.

I think you are nutz. You people have been saying that for decades, and today solar and wind are completely dependent on government to survive, and produce a tiny fraction of the power needed, and most importantly.... they don't replace anything. You can't point to a single power grid anywhere in the entire world, including Germany, where they shut down power plants, because they had enough from wind and solar.

How many years do you people have to be proven wrong, before you stop claiming you are right?

 

[Old Rocks]

Arch Coal Inc And Peabody Energy Corporation Bankruptcy May Raise Industry Default Rate Over 50%: Fitch


Arch Coal Inc And Peabody Energy Corporation Bankruptcy May Raise Industry Default Rate Over 50%: Fitch

Coal is already going down.

 

[Old Rocks]

[FONT=Guardian Text Egyptian Web, Georgia, serif]Record boost in new solar power continues massive industry growth[/FONT]
A record amount of solar power was added to the world’s grids in 2014, pushing total cumulative capacity to 100 times the level it was in 2000.
Around 40GW of solar power was installed last year, meaning there is now a total of 178GW to meet world electricity demand, prompting renewable energy associations to claim that a tipping point has been reached that will allow rapid acceleration of the technology.
“For the first time ever in Europe, renewables produced more power than nuclear – and solar power was key in achieving this remarkable achievement,” said Michael Schmela, executive adviser to trade body SolarPower Europe, which compiled the statistics published on Tuesday.
Looks as if the alternative energies are already displacing many of the other sources.

 

[eagle1462010]

Arch Coal Inc And Peabody Energy Corporation Bankruptcy May Raise Industry Default Rate Over 50%: Fitch


Arch Coal Inc And Peabody Energy Corporation Bankruptcy May Raise Industry Default Rate Over 50%: Fitch

Coal is already going down.

Why don't you just put up a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED BANNER FOR OBAMA?

His WAR on ENERGY PRODUCERS is well known. His purpose to Bankrupt ANY AND ALL who use FOSSIL FUELS for power..................

The Job KILLER in OFFICE does well at KILLING ENERGY SECTOR JOBS.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED......................

 

[Old Rocks]

And you are lying. There are more jobs being created in the alternative energy sector than are being lost from coal. Not only that, they are jobs that don't kill you or give you black lung.