Another example of why you shouldnt pay attention to fauci

[Nostra]

Trump is a weak man.

He’s not a man of peace. He’s a coward. There’s a difference.

you don't know what you're talking about. LOL

Sure do.

Trump talks a lot more than he acts.

Name a politician that doesn’t

 

[colfax_m]

Name a politician that doesn’t

Good point.

But no one ever came close to doing it the way Trump did it.

 

[Nostra]

Other than saving tens of millions of lives with the Trump Vaccines....

Hey, he could have been remembered for that, instead of what he will be remembered for which is leading a riot at the Capitol because he couldn’t mentally handle losing.

Revisionist history.

I would ask you to quote Trump inciting a riot, but we all know how that plays out.

 

[Nostra]

Name a politician that doesn’t

Good point.

But no one ever came close to doing it the way Trump did it.

Bullshit.

Veggie Joe has talked for 47 years, and accomplished squat other than eliminating out Southern border

 

[martybegan]

Kind of like "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period"?

Kinda like that only on a daily basis for about 4 years.

If you listen to Trump, like actually listen to him, it’s remarkable how little he actually says. Like, take out the fluff and vague statements and the “we’ll sees”, the “maybes”, the “who knows”, and there’s very little left over.

He’s a marketer, I don’t know why anyone would expect anything else.

LOL, like Obama's prog platitudes were anything different.

You are accusing him of doing something slightly different every politician has done for eons.

 

[martybegan]

It's the evidence we see. He was the propped up "moderate" that snookered just enough people to get him elected.

He’s been a moderate for decades. He’s still a moderate.

You don’t have evidence, you have a phony narrative.

He's not a "moderate", he's a lefty.

He's basically gone down the prog list:

Let immigration go to hell
Suck up to the trans lobby
Tax tax tax
appoint people based on what they are, not what they have done

There’s nothing all that extreme.
You are just out of touch.

Try refuting each of my points instead of ignoring them.

 

[Rigby5]

Biden doesn't talk and doesn't act. he's effectively a rock.

Today he’s a rock. Yesterday he was a Marxist revolutionary, a month ago he was the greatest government grifter in the history of the nation.

Tomorrow he’s probably going to be the Antichrist, at least if the Republican Party continues to uphold Greene as their new intellectual leader.

He's got plenty of Marxists pulling the strings. I doubt he has a clue about half of what is going on in his name.

Also, before you go "no commies in the cabinet", socialism is Marxism as well.

No socialism is NOT at all Marxism.

Socialism is anytime the people decide to do anything cooperatively, like when farmers get together for a coop grain elevator or whole foods store. Public schools, free vaccinations, Social Security, and public roads are socialism.

Marxism is a totally theoretical view from around 1840, that assumed the only way to end the tyranny of the industrial revolution controlling workers, was to only allow collective means of production.
It was abstract, uninformed, and totally theoretical.

There are no similarities between socialism and Marxism except that they both were concerned with the dangers of growing capitalist power.

 

[martybegan]

Biden doesn't talk and doesn't act. he's effectively a rock.

Today he’s a rock. Yesterday he was a Marxist revolutionary, a month ago he was the greatest government grifter in the history of the nation.

Tomorrow he’s probably going to be the Antichrist, at least if the Republican Party continues to uphold Greene as their new intellectual leader.

He's got plenty of Marxists pulling the strings. I doubt he has a clue about half of what is going on in his name.

Also, before you go "no commies in the cabinet", socialism is Marxism as well.

No socialism is NOT at all Marxism.

Socialism is anytime the people decide to do anything cooperatively, like when farmers get together for a coop grain elevator or whole foods store. Public schools, free vaccinations, Social Security, and public roads are socialism.

Marxism is a totally theoretical view from around 1840, that assumed the only way to end the tyranny of the industrial revolution controlling workers, was to only allow collective means of production.
It was abstract, uninformed, and totally theoretical.

There are no similarities between socialism and Marxism except that they both were concerned with the dangers of growing capitalist power.

No, socialism IS Marxism, communism is just an extreme form of it.

cooperative endeavors under free enterprise are not socialism.

 

[colfax_m]

It's the evidence we see. He was the propped up "moderate" that snookered just enough people to get him elected.

He’s been a moderate for decades. He’s still a moderate.

You don’t have evidence, you have a phony narrative.

He's not a "moderate", he's a lefty.

He's basically gone down the prog list:

Let immigration go to hell
Suck up to the trans lobby
Tax tax tax
appoint people based on what they are, not what they have done

There’s nothing all that extreme.
You are just out of touch.

Try refuting each of my points instead of ignoring them.

Polls: Americans want a 70 percent tax rate on the rich, but are less enthused about applying it to themselves

Recent polls have shown that most Americans support increasing taxes on wealthy people but a new survey suggests that they might feel differently about the issue if they suddenly became rich.In Jan…

thehill.com

 

[martybegan]

It's the evidence we see. He was the propped up "moderate" that snookered just enough people to get him elected.

He’s been a moderate for decades. He’s still a moderate.

You don’t have evidence, you have a phony narrative.

He's not a "moderate", he's a lefty.

He's basically gone down the prog list:

Let immigration go to hell
Suck up to the trans lobby
Tax tax tax
appoint people based on what they are, not what they have done

There’s nothing all that extreme.
You are just out of touch.

Try refuting each of my points instead of ignoring them.

Polls: Americans want a 70 percent tax rate on the rich, but are less enthused about applying it to themselves

Recent polls have shown that most Americans support increasing taxes on wealthy people but a new survey suggests that they might feel differently about the issue if they suddenly became rich.In Jan…

thehill.com

Wow, people want other people to pay for their shit.

Color me shocked.

 

[colfax_m]

Poll: Large Majorities, Including Republicans, Oppose Discrimination Against Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender People by Employers and Health Care Providers | KFF

Large majorities of Americans think it should be illegal for either employers or health care providers to discriminate against people because they are lesbian, gay or bisexual, or transgender, a new KFF poll finds. This includes large majorities of Republicans, independents and Democrats across...

www.kff.org

 

[colfax_m]

Wow, people want other people to pay for their shit.

Color me shocked.

Better than wanting no one to pay for anything the government does.

People don’t like Trump fiscal policy. It’s a joke.

 

[martybegan]

Wow, people want other people to pay for their shit.

Color me shocked.

Better than wanting no one to pay for anything the government does.

People don’t like Trump fiscal policy. It’s a joke.

We have plenty of people not paying, and thus having no skin in the game, and thus being hypocrites when they ask others to pay more.

A 70% tax on anything is punishing success, why work so hard when government is going to take most of the benefits?

 

[Rigby5]

If we would've just lived our lives as normal. We would be over this by now. Just like Trump said in the beginning.

Trump isn’t a leader. He talks a lot, doesn’t actually do much.

He was exactly right about what to do about covid, but he screwed up and let Fauci take over.

Are you on crack?

It hard to find ANYONE more wrong on Covid-19 than Trump has been.

According to Trump China is transparent. President Xi is doing a great job.
It's just a few cases coming in from China.
It's just 15 cases and soon it will be 0.
It will gone soon, like magic.
It is like flu, can you belive how many people flu kills?
It will be less than 100,000 dead, because of the great job that we have done.
There will not be a second wave.
It will be gone soon, like magic.
It will be great to pack churches for Easter - it will be like a miracle.
My CDC says to wear a mask...but I will not be.
Hydrochroloquine is great, we bought up stockpiles of it and I personally take it to keep the Covid away!
It will be gone soon...so come to my super spreading political events, where you can scream your lungs out in the middle of a maskless crowd.


Well it's April 2021 and the only thing gone is Trump's presidency.

I dislike Trump completely, but clearly he was right about covid-19.
Just ask yourself what ends any and all epidemics?
If you say vaccines, you would be wrong because vaccines only prevent future epidemics, not end ones in progress.
That is because they typically take 6 years or more to prepare.
With covid-19, we were just lucky that the 2009 SARs vaccine work applied to covid-19 as well.
So then what makes all epidemics end normally is that they peak and use up enough easily available hosts so that it burns out. It runs out of easy hosts and dies.
So why didn't that happen to covid-19 last March, as Trump said it wouild?
That is because we deliberately prevented covid-19 from ending.
By "flattening the curve", we essentially conserved easy hosts and prevented it from dying out.
We took a normal 2 month epidemic, and essentially made it last FOREVER!

If you want more details, look at how Fauci was wrong when he said that we should not go with "herd immunity", what normally ends all epidemics.
He claimed 2.5 million deaths, based on the false claims that there was no inherent immunity, and that the lethality rate was 2%. We now know that not only are all children essentially immune, but almost all the deaths actually are only those over 70 or compromised somehow. So Fauci's death estimate was about 200 times too high.

 

[Rigby5]

Name a few without being snarky about it.

Wow, he talked a lot, some anti-christ.

I got little respect for people who run their mouth. I don’t respect it. If you say something, do it. If you act like you know something, know it.

Trump often did neither.

NAFTA changes were good. They were far more minor than Trump claimed, like really just an update to the agreement, but was good.

Trump’s Russian sanctions were good. Could have been better but was good.

Some good technical health policy changes. Specifically in some of the payor agreements. Not sure he had anything to do with it but it was his administration so he gets the credit.

The vaccine program was good. This could have been his legacy, if it hadn’t been for the rest of his actions.

Kind of like "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period"?

That should not be blamed on Obama.
It was the insurance companies that canceled the old plans, not the government.

 

[colfax_m]

We have plenty of people not paying, and thus having no skin in the game, and thus being hypocrites when they ask others to pay more.

A 70% tax on anything is punishing success, why work so hard when government is going to take most of the benefits?

Lots of strawmen. People can’t avoid taxes. You’re probably only referring to income tax, which is probably intentionally narrow because if you expand to all taxes, your claim of “people not paying” is stupid. People pay taxes. I don’t know how anyone could avoid them.

Is Biden raising taxes to 70%? No? Then shut up.

And this wasn’t about the wisdom of it, it was to show you that you’re out of touch.

 

[martybegan]

Name a few without being snarky about it.

Wow, he talked a lot, some anti-christ.

I got little respect for people who run their mouth. I don’t respect it. If you say something, do it. If you act like you know something, know it.

Trump often did neither.

NAFTA changes were good. They were far more minor than Trump claimed, like really just an update to the agreement, but was good.

Trump’s Russian sanctions were good. Could have been better but was good.

Some good technical health policy changes. Specifically in some of the payor agreements. Not sure he had anything to do with it but it was his administration so he gets the credit.

The vaccine program was good. This could have been his legacy, if it hadn’t been for the rest of his actions.

Kind of like "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period"?

That should not be blamed on Obama.
It was the insurance companies that canceled the old plans, not the government.

The government created the laws that made the companies change or cancel the plans.

That's a pretty pathetic pass the buck attempt there.

No Obamacare, no changes to the plan I liked.

 

[martybegan]

We have plenty of people not paying, and thus having no skin in the game, and thus being hypocrites when they ask others to pay more.

A 70% tax on anything is punishing success, why work so hard when government is going to take most of the benefits?

Lots of strawmen. People can’t avoid taxes. You’re probably only referring to income tax, which is probably intentionally narrow because if you expand to all taxes, your claim of “people not paying” is stupid. People pay taxes. I don’t know how anyone could avoid them.

Is Biden raising taxes to 70%? No? Then shut up.

And this wasn’t about the wisdom of it, it was to show you that you’re out of touch.

Income tax is the biggest tax, and plenty of people don't pay it. Meanwhile progs want to skin our most productive citizens to bloat government and pay off more voters.

Look at NY, making the top earners the most taxed in the nation, and not realizing that they lose the increased revenue of 10 people for every one that moves.

 

[Rigby5]

It's the evidence we see. He was the propped up "moderate" that snookered just enough people to get him elected.

He’s been a moderate for decades. He’s still a moderate.

You don’t have evidence, you have a phony narrative.

He's not a "moderate", he's a lefty.

He's basically gone down the prog list:

Let immigration go to hell
Suck up to the trans lobby
Tax tax tax
appoint people based on what they are, not what they have done

There’s nothing all that extreme.
You are just out of touch.

Try refuting each of my points instead of ignoring them.

Immigration is not such a big deal. This country prospered mostly due to immigration, where cheap labor allows us to compete globally, and more workers support Social Security for us retiring workers. Not only does more immigration mean more productive workers, but also more consumers. The US is not really a welfare state, so immigrants can't drag down the economy. They can only boost it.

The trans lobby is annoying, but tiny. There just are not that many people who want to dress different than their birth gender, and as long as they are tasteful, I don't see how they matter. The only thing I can thing of is letting trans participate in sports that has restrictions on male hormones.

Taxing can be problematic I agree, but even though I do not like Biden, I think a 28% corporate tax is not abusive.
It is always easy for corporations to avoid paying any taxes if they want. The problem is not taxes by spending, and that is mostly on the military, so we should focus on reducing the military.

 

[colfax_m]

We have plenty of people not paying, and thus having no skin in the game, and thus being hypocrites when they ask others to pay more.

A 70% tax on anything is punishing success, why work so hard when government is going to take most of the benefits?

Lots of strawmen. People can’t avoid taxes. You’re probably only referring to income tax, which is probably intentionally narrow because if you expand to all taxes, your claim of “people not paying” is stupid. People pay taxes. I don’t know how anyone could avoid them.

Is Biden raising taxes to 70%? No? Then shut up.

And this wasn’t about the wisdom of it, it was to show you that you’re out of touch.

Income tax is the biggest tax, and plenty of people don't pay it. Meanwhile progs want to skin our most productive citizens to bloat government and pay off more voters.

Look at NY, making the top earners the most taxed in the nation, and not realizing that they lose the increased revenue of 10 people for every one that moves.

Try refuting my points instead of ignoring them.