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Another American girl who can take care of herself....teaching how to speed load a shotgun...

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Your statement was " they fought to the last old man and little boy for Hitler. The "Good Germans" never show up. "

I just refuted that point, not anything else.

The July 20th Plotters weren't "Good Germans". They were all for the war when Germany was WINNING.

And they weren't average German Citizens rising up with their guns... because that shit NEVER happens.

Another American woman explaining why you might just chose an AR-15 for home defense.....

In Britain....the home defense plan is to quietly submit to rape, robbery or murder......choice given to the criminals.....

Again, the UK has nowhere near our murder rate... probably because that gun in the home is 43 times more likely to be used for domestic violence than defense.

Again, refuting your blanket point, now man up about it, cockgobbler.
 

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Again, refuting your blanket point, now man up about it, cockgobbler.

Except you didn't refute it. The July 20 plotters weren't "good Germans with guns"... they were professional Army officers who were all for the war when Germany was winning, and then turned on Hitler when Germany was losing... and they were immediately shot like dogs.
 

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Again, refuting your blanket point, now man up about it, cockgobbler.

Except you didn't refute it. The July 20 plotters weren't "good Germans with guns"... they were professional Army officers who were all for the war when Germany was winning, and then turned on Hitler when Germany was losing... and they were immediately shot like dogs.

you said every single german was with Adolph until the end. These clearly were not.
 
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Your statement was " they fought to the last old man and little boy for Hitler. The "Good Germans" never show up. "

I just refuted that point, not anything else.

The July 20th Plotters weren't "Good Germans". They were all for the war when Germany was WINNING.

And they weren't average German Citizens rising up with their guns... because that shit NEVER happens.

Another American woman explaining why you might just chose an AR-15 for home defense.....

In Britain....the home defense plan is to quietly submit to rape, robbery or murder......choice given to the criminals.....

Again, the UK has nowhere near our murder rate... probably because that gun in the home is 43 times more likely to be used for domestic violence than defense.

Moron...the U.K. has had a low murder rate even when they had access to guns, you idiot...what part of that do you not understand......it isn't access to guns that makes the gun murder rate go up or down, it is the criminals who decide to commit crime and murder that creates the rate........so normal people who own and carry guns don't commit crimes with them....so banning and confiscating them from those people doesn't do anything to the rate of crime..since they aren't the ones committing the crime.....you doofus.
 
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Your statement was " they fought to the last old man and little boy for Hitler. The "Good Germans" never show up. "

I just refuted that point, not anything else.

The July 20th Plotters weren't "Good Germans". They were all for the war when Germany was WINNING.

And they weren't average German Citizens rising up with their guns... because that shit NEVER happens.

Another American woman explaining why you might just chose an AR-15 for home defense.....

In Britain....the home defense plan is to quietly submit to rape, robbery or murder......choice given to the criminals.....

Again, the UK has nowhere near our murder rate... probably because that gun in the home is 43 times more likely to be used for domestic violence than defense.

You have been shown over and over that the guy who came up with the 43 number changed that number to 2.3 and he was still wrong...yet you continue to post it knowing it is not true.....
 

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you said every single german was with Adolph until the end. These clearly were not.

Well, they weren't there at the End. Hitler shot them...

They were the only Good kind of Nazis at that point- Dead ones.

Moron...the U.K. has had a low murder rate even when they had access to guns, you idiot...what part of that do you not understand......

Moron, They didn't have access to guns even before the law was changed. There wasn't a market for them. This was a case of the laws reflecting practice, Idiot. Point is, they get along without guns, just fine.

You have been shown over and over that the guy who came up with the 43 number changed that number to 2.3 and he was still wrong...yet you continue to post it knowing it is not true.....

Nothing you say interests me. Kellerman never said he was wrong.
 
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you said every single german was with Adolph until the end. These clearly were not.

Well, they weren't there at the End. Hitler shot them...

They were the only Good kind of Nazis at that point- Dead ones.

Moron...the U.K. has had a low murder rate even when they had access to guns, you idiot...what part of that do you not understand......

Moron, They didn't have access to guns even before the law was changed. There wasn't a market for them. This was a case of the laws reflecting practice, Idiot. Point is, they get along without guns, just fine.

You have been shown over and over that the guy who came up with the 43 number changed that number to 2.3 and he was still wrong...yet you continue to post it knowing it is not true.....

Nothing you say interests me. Kellerman never said he was wrong.


The first thing they did was take guns away from the people they wanted to murder.

You can't get past that...

Kellerman was shown to be wrong....but he still changed the number from 43 to 2.3 after he was called out, and he never corrected for the original errors...you have been shown this over and over again, then you post the lie .......
 

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The first thing they did was take guns away from the people they wanted to murder.

You can't get past that...

Sure we can. No gun confiscation happened in Germany. It wasn't like they stopped by Goldstein's house on Monday for his gun and took him to the Camp on Friday.

They just took him to the camp, and if he had his old luger from WWI, he wasn't stupid enough to take on a tank with it.

Kellerman was shown to be wrong....but he still changed the number from 43 to 2.3 after he was called out, and he never corrected for the original errors...you have been shown this over and over again, then you post the lie

Kellerman said no such thing... I know it's an uncomfortable thing to you, but a gun in the home is more a danger to the people in a home than a bad guy.
 

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you said every single german was with Adolph until the end. These clearly were not.

Well, they weren't there at the End. Hitler shot them...

They were the only Good kind of Nazis at that point- Dead ones.

Moron...the U.K. has had a low murder rate even when they had access to guns, you idiot...what part of that do you not understand......

Moron, They didn't have access to guns even before the law was changed. There wasn't a market for them. This was a case of the laws reflecting practice, Idiot. Point is, they get along without guns, just fine.

You have been shown over and over that the guy who came up with the 43 number changed that number to 2.3 and he was still wrong...yet you continue to post it knowing it is not true.....

Nothing you say interests me. Kellerman never said he was wrong.

Dodge duck dip dive and dodge. I proved your original point moot, now suck it up like all those dicks you suck.
 

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Dodge duck dip dive and dodge. I proved your original point moot, now suck it up like all those dicks you suck.

Marty, your gay fantasies are kind of disturbing to see in print.

Point was- "Good Germans" never rose up against Hitler. Self-serving Army Officers did, and were promptly executed to the cheers of the German people.

And then the poor guy got played by Tom Cruz...
 

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Dodge duck dip dive and dodge. I proved your original point moot, now suck it up like all those dicks you suck.

Marty, your gay fantasies are kind of disturbing to see in print.

Point was- "Good Germans" never rose up against Hitler. Self-serving Army Officers did, and were promptly executed to the cheers of the German people.

And then the poor guy got played by Tom Cruz...

Deny deny deny, loser.
 
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The first thing they did was take guns away from the people they wanted to murder.

You can't get past that...

Sure we can. No gun confiscation happened in Germany. It wasn't like they stopped by Goldstein's house on Monday for his gun and took him to the Camp on Friday.

They just took him to the camp, and if he had his old luger from WWI, he wasn't stupid enough to take on a tank with it.

Kellerman was shown to be wrong....but he still changed the number from 43 to 2.3 after he was called out, and he never corrected for the original errors...you have been shown this over and over again, then you post the lie

Kellerman said no such thing... I know it's an uncomfortable thing to you, but a gun in the home is more a danger to the people in a home than a bad guy.


Yes....they did......


And Kellerman changed his number from 43 all the way down to 2.3, but still kept in the flawed method which you have been shown over and over again....and you keep lying about it.
 

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So all Germans should have been executed after the war?

Wow, now you are flailing...

Yes....they did......

NO, they didn't.




First, strict German gun regulation was in place before Hitler rose to power and he later oversaw gun laws that loosened many firearm restrictions.

According to a 2004 analysis by Bernard Harcourt, a professor at Columbia University, after the Germany’s defeat in World War I, the Weimar Republic, the government that preceded Hitler’s, passed very stringent gun laws that essentially banned all gun ownership in an attempt to both stabilize the country and to comply with the Treaty of Versailles of 1919.


But Dagmar Ellerbrock, an expert on German gun policies at the Dresden Technical University in Germany, told PolitiFact in 2015 that the order was followed "quite rarely, so that largely, only newly bought weapons became registered. At that time, most men, and many women, still owned the weapons they acquired before or during the first World War."

The Nazis used the records to confiscate guns from their enemies, but Ellerbrock also said the files included very few of the firearms in circulation and that many Jewish people and others still managed to stash away weapons into the late 1930s.

In 1938, the Nazis adopted the German Weapons Act, which "deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns as well as ammunition," Harcourt wrote.


But the Nazis had already been raiding Jewish homes by then, and the Anti-Defamation League, an organization founded to fight anti-Semitism, explained in 2013 that "the small number of personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany’s Jews (about 214,000) remaining in Germany in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state."

Omer Bartov, a historian at Brown University who studies the Third Reich, told Salon in 2013 that even if they had weapons, Jews probably wouldn’t have had much success fighting back: "Just imagine the Jews of Germany exercising the right to bear arms and fighting the SA, SS and the Wehrmacht. The (Russian) Red Army lost 7 million men fighting the Wehrmacht, despite its tanks and planes and artillery. The Jews with pistols and shotguns would have done better?"
 

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So all Germans should have been executed after the war?

Wow, now you are flailing...

Yes....they did......

NO, they didn't.




First, strict German gun regulation was in place before Hitler rose to power and he later oversaw gun laws that loosened many firearm restrictions.

According to a 2004 analysis by Bernard Harcourt, a professor at Columbia University, after the Germany’s defeat in World War I, the Weimar Republic, the government that preceded Hitler’s, passed very stringent gun laws that essentially banned all gun ownership in an attempt to both stabilize the country and to comply with the Treaty of Versailles of 1919.


But Dagmar Ellerbrock, an expert on German gun policies at the Dresden Technical University in Germany, told PolitiFact in 2015 that the order was followed "quite rarely, so that largely, only newly bought weapons became registered. At that time, most men, and many women, still owned the weapons they acquired before or during the first World War."

The Nazis used the records to confiscate guns from their enemies, but Ellerbrock also said the files included very few of the firearms in circulation and that many Jewish people and others still managed to stash away weapons into the late 1930s.

In 1938, the Nazis adopted the German Weapons Act, which "deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns as well as ammunition," Harcourt wrote.


But the Nazis had already been raiding Jewish homes by then, and the Anti-Defamation League, an organization founded to fight anti-Semitism, explained in 2013 that "the small number of personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany’s Jews (about 214,000) remaining in Germany in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state."

Omer Bartov, a historian at Brown University who studies the Third Reich, told Salon in 2013 that even if they had weapons, Jews probably wouldn’t have had much success fighting back: "Just imagine the Jews of Germany exercising the right to bear arms and fighting the SA, SS and the Wehrmacht. The (Russian) Red Army lost 7 million men fighting the Wehrmacht, despite its tanks and planes and artillery. The Jews with pistols and shotguns would have done better?"

Just pointing out all you have is broad generalizations, you dime store hack.
 

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That's what I keep telling you... your obsession with guns and shooting people is not healthy, buddy.
What is you comment on this?

Does the woman deserve to die because you dont like guns?

 

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So all Germans should have been executed after the war?

NO, just the ones who committed crimes... and we executed a lot of them.

Now, I read an interesting story yesterday, about the Master Sergeant who was the executioner at Nuremberg.
He very clumsily did his job, either due to incompetence and malice, and some of the executions were not clean. He felt the need to carry two guns with him while stationed in Germany because he was always afraid a German was going to kill him in revenge. One time, he thought a German cook poisoned him in the mess haull.


After the war, he was stationed on a Pacific Atoll doing bomb tests with German Scientists we saved under Operation Paper Clip. He was mysteriously electrocuted in an "accident".
 

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