Another American girl who can take care of herself....teaching how to speed load a shotgun...

[JoeB131]

If the Jews, millions of them in Germany had guns, they wouldn't have been able to send in their joe biden supporters to burn, loot, beat and murder them.....I mean socialist brown shirts, who destroyed their shops, beat them and murdered them while the police looked on.....since it was illegal for Jews to own and carry guns......

Uh, no, actually, what would have happened is this.

The first pocket of Jews would have shot at the Nazis.

Dr. Goebbels would have issued a story that painted them as Terrorists, kind of like Fox News does with peaceful BLM Protests.

Then they'd have sent in the tanks and killed them all.

As a matter of fact, this is EXACTLY what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto. The Jews got some crazy idea they could force the Nazis out because the Red Army was close. The Red Army just waited for it to sort itself out.

They managed to kill a whopping 17 German Soldiers while having 56,000 killed or captured and sent to the camps.

That's why it's kind of absurd every time I see one of you nuts tell me that you needs you your guns to fights you the gummit.

 

[JoeB131]

So Americans should turn in our guns and wait for the chinese red army to deliver us from the Deep State?

or will the north koreans take over patrolling the streets of our cities to quell the violence of ANTIFA and Black Lies Matter?

Gee, I can hardly wait

Naw, man, here's what going to happen.

We'll vote Trump out in November due to his gross incompetence.
Then people who know what they are doing will be back in charge and we'll start solving the other problems.

 

[2aguy]

If the Jews, millions of them in Germany had guns, they wouldn't have been able to send in their joe biden supporters to burn, loot, beat and murder them.....I mean socialist brown shirts, who destroyed their shops, beat them and murdered them while the police looked on.....since it was illegal for Jews to own and carry guns......

Uh, no, actually, what would have happened is this.

The first pocket of Jews would have shot at the Nazis.

Dr. Goebbels would have issued a story that painted them as Terrorists, kind of like Fox News does with peaceful BLM Protests.

Then they'd have sent in the tanks and killed them all.

As a matter of fact, this is EXACTLY what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto. The Jews got some crazy idea they could force the Nazis out because the Red Army was close. The Red Army just waited for it to sort itself out.

They managed to kill a whopping 17 German Soldiers while having 56,000 killed or captured and sent to the camps.

That's why it's kind of absurd every time I see one of you nuts tell me that you needs you your guns to fights you the gummit.

Moron....they had only a few guns......and they still managed to force the Germans to divert large numbers of German troops to put them down. Had they been armed in large numbers it wouldn't have gotten that far..........the national socialists wouldn't have been able to beat, and murder them freely before the war started....

 

[2aguy]

If the Jews, millions of them in Germany had guns, they wouldn't have been able to send in their joe biden supporters to burn, loot, beat and murder them.....I mean socialist brown shirts, who destroyed their shops, beat them and murdered them while the police looked on.....since it was illegal for Jews to own and carry guns......

Uh, no, actually, what would have happened is this.

The first pocket of Jews would have shot at the Nazis.

Dr. Goebbels would have issued a story that painted them as Terrorists, kind of like Fox News does with peaceful BLM Protests.

Then they'd have sent in the tanks and killed them all.

As a matter of fact, this is EXACTLY what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto. The Jews got some crazy idea they could force the Nazis out because the Red Army was close. The Red Army just waited for it to sort itself out.

They managed to kill a whopping 17 German Soldiers while having 56,000 killed or captured and sent to the camps.

That's why it's kind of absurd every time I see one of you nuts tell me that you needs you your guns to fights you the gummit.

You are a moron......

There were 13,000 Jews killed in the uprising...unarmed......if those 13,000 had rifles, the outcome would have been a lot worse for the Germans.....and had that taken place in every country......World War 2 would have been very different...


A German force was tiny compared to 50,000 Jews.....and yet because they were unarmed...that tiny German force was able to destroy them...

By his own words, Stroop reported that after he took command on 19 April 1943 the forces at his disposal totaled 31 officers and 1,262 men:[51]

Warsaw Ghetto Uprising - Wikipedia


Marek Edelman, who was the only surviving uprising commander from the left-wing ŻOB, stated that the ŻOB had 220 fighters and each was armed with a handgun, grenades, and Molotov cocktails. His organization had three rifles in each area, as well as two land mines and one submachine gun.[20][21][22][23] Due to its socialist leanings, the Soviets promoted the actions of ŻOB as the dominant or only party in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, a view often adopted by secondary sources in the West.[18]

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Death toll[edit]

Stroop Report original caption: "Bandits jump to escape capture." A man leaps to his death from the top story window of an apartment block. Taken at 23 and 25 Niska Street[67]

Plaque commemorating Home Armysoldiers - Eugeniusz Morawski ps. "Młodek" and Józef Wilk ps. "Orlik" killed during the Ghetto Action on the wall Church of St. John of God at ul. Bonifraterska 12 in Warsaw.
13,000 Jews were killed in the ghetto during the uprising (some 6,000 among them were burnt alive or died from smoke inhalation). Of the remaining 50,000 residents, most were captured and shipped to concentration and extermination camps, in particular to Treblinka.

Jürgen Stroop's internal SS daily report for Friedrich Krüger, written on 16 May 1943, stated:

180 Jews, bandits and sub-humans, were destroyed. The former Jewish quarter of Warsaw is no longer in existence. The large-scale action was terminated at 20:15 hours by blowing up the Warsaw Synagogue. ... Total number of Jews dealt with 56,065, including both Jews caught and Jews whose extermination can be proved. ... Apart from 8 buildings (police barracks, hospital, and accommodations for housing working-parties) the former Ghetto is completely destroyed. Only the dividing walls are left standing where no explosions were carried out.[42]

According to the casualty lists in Stroop's report, German forces suffered a total of 110 casualties – 17 dead (of whom 16 were killed in action) and 93 injured – of whom 101 are listed by name, including over 60 members of the Waffen-SS. These figures did not include Jewish collaborators, but did include the "Trawniki men" and Polish police under his command. The real number of German losses, however, may be well higher (the Germans suffered about 300 casualties by Edelman's estimate). For propaganda purposes, the official announcement claimed the German casualties to be only a few wounded, while propaganda bulletins of the Polish Underground Stateannounced that hundreds of occupiers had been killed in the fighting.

 

[2aguy]

If the Jews, millions of them in Germany had guns, they wouldn't have been able to send in their joe biden supporters to burn, loot, beat and murder them.....I mean socialist brown shirts, who destroyed their shops, beat them and murdered them while the police looked on.....since it was illegal for Jews to own and carry guns......

Uh, no, actually, what would have happened is this.

The first pocket of Jews would have shot at the Nazis.

Dr. Goebbels would have issued a story that painted them as Terrorists, kind of like Fox News does with peaceful BLM Protests.

Then they'd have sent in the tanks and killed them all.

As a matter of fact, this is EXACTLY what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto. The Jews got some crazy idea they could force the Nazis out because the Red Army was close. The Red Army just waited for it to sort itself out.

They managed to kill a whopping 17 German Soldiers while having 56,000 killed or captured and sent to the camps.

That's why it's kind of absurd every time I see one of you nuts tell me that you needs you your guns to fights you the gummit.

You don't understand anything.......

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/16/alan-steinweiss-bad-history/

Well, the point of the Uprising wasn’t to save the lives of the participants; they knew that they were almost certain to die to no matter what. They tied down Nazi forces for over fourth months — whereas the French and Polish armies had been unable to resist the Nazi invaders for even two months.
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Aggressive use of the Wiemar and the 1938 statutes was not the only form of Nazi gun control. The first years of the Nazi regime were dedicated toGleichschaltung (“forcing into line”) — to suppress any aspect of civil society which might offer resistance. That is why the Nazis required that every gun club and every hunting club submit to the supervision of a Nazi political officer. Some clubs disbanded rather than comply.


Pointing out that Jews constituted less than one percent of the German population, Professor Steinweis says that “It is preposterous to argue that the possession of firearms would have enabled them to mount resistance against a systematic program of persecution implemented by a modern bureaucracy, enforced by a well-armed police state, and either supported or tolerated by the majority of Germans…


Inside Germany, only the army possessed the physical force necessary for defying or overthrowing the Nazis…” But that is the point! Using gun licensing and gun registration laws enacted by a democratic government, the Nazis by 1938 had disarmed everyone who was not a certified supporter of the regime.

Once everyone except the pro-Nazis was disarmed, only the German Officer Corps had the ability to overthrow Hitler, and they did not choose to act. The point of the Second Amendment, as Dr. Carson rightly said, is that obstructing tyranny should not hang on the fragile thread of military good will.
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[2aguy]

If the Jews, millions of them in Germany had guns, they wouldn't have been able to send in their joe biden supporters to burn, loot, beat and murder them.....I mean socialist brown shirts, who destroyed their shops, beat them and murdered them while the police looked on.....since it was illegal for Jews to own and carry guns......

Uh, no, actually, what would have happened is this.

The first pocket of Jews would have shot at the Nazis.

Dr. Goebbels would have issued a story that painted them as Terrorists, kind of like Fox News does with peaceful BLM Protests.

Then they'd have sent in the tanks and killed them all.

As a matter of fact, this is EXACTLY what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto. The Jews got some crazy idea they could force the Nazis out because the Red Army was close. The Red Army just waited for it to sort itself out.

They managed to kill a whopping 17 German Soldiers while having 56,000 killed or captured and sent to the camps.

That's why it's kind of absurd every time I see one of you nuts tell me that you needs you your guns to fights you the gummit.

Now imagine 25,000 or more armed civilians ....instead of the few that had guns....

On Jan. 18, 1943, the Germans rounded up 7,000 Jews and sent them to the extermination camp at Treblinka; they killed 600 more right in Warsaw. But on that day, an uprising began. In the beginning, the Jewish Fighting Organization had about 600 volunteers; the Jewish Military Association had about 400, and there were thousands more in spontaneous small groups.

The Jews had only 10 handguns, but the Germans did not realize how under-armed the Jewish fighters were.

After four days of fighting, the Germans on January 21 pulled back from the ghetto, to organize better. A diary written in the Warsaw ghetto exulted, “In the four days of fighting we had made up for the shame of Jewish passivity in the first extermination action of July, 1942.” [Ber Mark, “The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising,” in “They Fought Back" ed., Yuri Suhl (N.Y.: Paperback Library, 1968; 1st pub. 1967), pp. 104-06].

Not only the Germans were shocked by the unexpected resistance, but also the Jews were astonished. They could not imagine until then that the beaten, exhausted victims could rise against a mighty enemy who had conquered Europe. Many Jews who were in the streets of Warsaw during the fighting refused to believe that on Zamenhof and Mila streets Jewish boys and girls had attacked Germans. The large-scale fighting which followed convinced all that it was possible.

In February 1943, the Polish Home Army transferred 50 revolvers (many of them defective), 50 hand grenades, and four pounds of explosives to the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto.

The Warsaw Jews also manufactured their own explosives, including Molotov cocktails. But, wrote Ringelblum, as in Biblical days, “their most potent weapon was their deep sense of national pride and responsibility.”

On Feb. 16, 1943, Heinrich Himmler ordered that the Warsaw ghetto be exterminated on April 19. The plan was to give Hitler a Judenrein Warsaw as a present for his April 20 birthday.
On that night of April 19, the Warsaw Jews partook of their Passover Seder. Since September 1939, they had eaten the bitter herbs of slavery. Now, they were drinking the wine of freedom.

The Nazi minister of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, wrote in his diary, “the joke cannot last much longer, but it shows what the Jews are capable of when they have arms in their hands.” [Yuri Suhl, introduction to “They Fought Back," p. 15.]
The Nazis brought in tanks. The Jews were ready with explosives. First one tank and then a second were immobilized in the middle of the street, in flames, their crews burned alive. Ringelblum recalled:

Now the fighters as well as the non-combatant Jews who have crawled out of their hiding places have reached the pinnacle of jubilation. … According to one eyewitness account, “The faces who only yesterday reflected terror and despair now shone with an unusual joy which is difficult to describe. This was a joy free from all personal motives, a joy imbued with the pride that that ghetto was fighting.”

Another eyewitness described the confusion in the German ranks: “There runs a German soldier shrieking like an insane one, the helmet on his head on fire. Another one shouts madly ‘Juden…Waffen…Juden… Waffen!'” [“Jews…weapons!"]

Eventually, the Jewish forces began to run out of ammunition. The Warsaw Jews, like the Jews throughout Europe, were unable to produce their own ammunition. There was little “gun culture” among European Jews of the 1930s, so few Jews had the equipment for “reloading” — the home manufacture of ammunition. In contrast, hundreds of thousands of American families own the machine tools used for reloading; home manufacture of ammunition is legal everywhere in the United States.

Stymied in house-to-house fighting, the Germans began to burn the ghetto to the ground on April 22. The Warsaw Ghetto fire was probably the largest urban fire in Europe since Nero’s fire in Rome. On April 23, Himmler ordered SS Major General Jürgen Stroop to finish things quickly, and Stroop promised to complete his job that same day. But he could not.

That day, a poster appeared in Warsaw in which the Jewish Fighting Organization assured the Christian Polish resistance that the Jews would never surrender. The poster promised, “You have seen and will see that every doorstop in the ghetto is and will continue to be a fortress. We may all perish in the struggle but we shall not surrender….Long live the brotherhood of weapons and the blood of fighting Poland! Long live Freedom! Death to the murderous and criminal occupants.” [Ber Mark, “The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising," in “They Fought Back," pp. 120-21.]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/10/the-warsaw-ghetto-uprising-armed-jews-vs-nazis/

 

[Mac-7]

Then people who know what they are doing will be back in charge and we'll start solving the other problems.

Thats an empty promise if there ever was one

because the proposed replacements for trump have no intention of carrying out his policies

 

[JoeB131]

Moron....they had only a few guns......and they still managed to force the Germans to divert large numbers of German troops to put them down. Had they been armed in large numbers it wouldn't have gotten that far..........the national socialists wouldn't have been able to beat, and murder them freely before the war started....

Wow. More Gun Nut wank fantasies.

The Nazis had Tanks.
The Nazis had Bombers
The Nazis had millions of armed troops.

Some unorganized nuts with guns really don't stand much of a chance against trained soldiers. This is what you wannabees don't get.

 

[JoeB131]

Thats an empty promise if there ever was one

because the proposed replacements for trump have no intention of carrying out his policies

Quite Right. Trump's policies are what's gotten us into this mess. That's why we need to undo them.

 

[Mac-7]

Trump's policies are what's gotten us into this mess.

Trump policies are not responsible for the mayhem that liberals are inflicting on the streets of portland and other democrat run cities

 

[JoeB131]

Trump policies are not responsible for the mayhem that liberals are inflicting on the streets of portland and other democrat run cities

Sure they are.... He engaged in race baiting for 8 years... this is the result.

 

[Mac-7]

Sure they are.... He engaged in race baiting for 8 years... this is the result.

8 years?

you are thinking of obama

 

[Blues Man]

You still don't understand......I am not a gun guy, I am a Human Freedom guy, and guns are simply one of the tools we need to keep morons like you from taking our freedom from us.......criminals and rogue governments are only stopped by people with guns....you pixie dust illusions don't stop rape, robbery, murder or genocide....

Guy, you spend every day here talking about guns....

Guns have never stopped a dictatorship.. Germans had plenty of guns, they fought to the last old man and little boy for Hitler. The "Good Germans" never show up.

Hey, we think we found your Dream Girl.

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and you spend every day here talking about other men's penises

 

[2aguy]

Moron....they had only a few guns......and they still managed to force the Germans to divert large numbers of German troops to put them down. Had they been armed in large numbers it wouldn't have gotten that far..........the national socialists wouldn't have been able to beat, and murder them freely before the war started....

Wow. More Gun Nut wank fantasies.

The Nazis had Tanks.
The Nazis had Bombers
The Nazis had millions of armed troops.

Some unorganized nuts with guns really don't stand much of a chance against trained soldiers. This is what you wannabees don't get.

They couldn't hold all of those countries if millions of people had rifles........European countries took guns away from their people before World War 2 so they were defenseless once the Germans invaded........Switzerland had only 435,000 armed civilians and they were considered to hard a target for the Germans.......if every country in Europe was as well armed German socialists couldn't have invaded and hoped to hold the territory.

The resistance in Europe didn't have enough guns to do real damage to the Germans...we had to air drop in crap guns to help them...you twit.

 

[2aguy]

Thats an empty promise if there ever was one

because the proposed replacements for trump have no intention of carrying out his policies

Quite Right. Trump's policies are what's gotten us into this mess. That's why we need to undo them.

China and it's democrat party minions are why we are in this mess...you twit....not Trump.

 

[2aguy]

Trump policies are not responsible for the mayhem that liberals are inflicting on the streets of portland and other democrat run cities

Sure they are.... He engaged in race baiting for 8 years... this is the result.

No, that was obama....

 

[JoeB131]

8 years?

you are thinking of obama

Nope. Trump's the guy who started the Race-baiting by embracing the Birther Crazy.

China and it's democrat party minions are why we are in this mess...you twit....not Trump.

China didn't make Trump discourage social distancing, disband the Pandemic response team, undermine Dr. Fauci, make mask wearing a part of the"Culture War" or all the other crazy stuff that happened.

 

[JoeB131]

They couldn't hold all of those countries if millions of people had rifles........European countries took guns away from their people before World War 2 so they were defenseless once the Germans invaded

Sure they could have.

Here's the ugly little secret of WWII. Every country the Germans invaded, they found SHITLOADS of people willing to collaborate with them. Heck, some countries they didn't even have to invade, like Sweden which stayed Neutral but STILL sent thousands of guys to fight for the Nazis.

Fact is, more people joined Vichy than the Free French.

Switzerland had only 435,000 armed civilians and they were considered to hard a target for the Germans.......if every country in Europe was as well armed German socialists couldn't have invaded and hoped to hold the territory.

Switzerland wasn't invaded because the SCUMWADS were willing to launder the loot the Germans were stealing form the Jews.. You see, this is where you get your history mixed up, buddy.

Tank beats gun.

 

[Shawnee_b]

2 Tiny Guy sharing his wank fantasies with us.. Ugh.

He doesn't need to wank, he has your mouth to blow in.

 

[Mac-7]

Nope. Trump's the guy who started the Race-baiting by embracing the Birther Crazy.

That was only racist in the minds of guilt-ridden white libs who think obama is untouchable because he’s black