Another American girl who can take care of herself....teaching how to speed load a shotgun...

[JoeB131]

What is you comment on this?

Does the woman deserve to die because you dont like guns?

Well, no, she doesn't.

Nether do the 39,000 other people who will die this year because someone who never should have had a gun had access to one.

 

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do the 39,000 other people who will die this year because someone who never should have had a gun had access to one.

How many more would die like the woman in this example because they cant defend themselves?

I know that woman was damn lucky that libs like you didnt take her gun away

 

[2aguy]

What is you comment on this?

Does the woman deserve to die because you dont like guns?

Well, no, she doesn't.

Nether do the 39,000 other people who will die this year because someone who never should have had a gun had access to one.

And you lie, again.....

10,235 gun murders in 2019, the rest were suicides, and guns don't matter in suicides, as you have been shown over and over again...

Of the 10,235 gun murders, over 70-80% of the victims are criminals engaged in the criminal lifestyle and of the rest, the majority are friends and family of the criminals caught in the shooting......most of these shootings occurring in democrat party controlled cities.....

At the same time, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies and murders...according to the Centers for Disease Control research...the Department of Justice research puts the number at 1.5 million times a year......

Those numbers show you are an idiot...

 

[JoeB131]

How many more would die like the woman in this example because they cant defend themselves?

I know that woman was damn lucky that libs like you didnt take her gun away

Again, 8 people died in Indy because someone who should have had his gun taken away didn't.
Six people in Colorado...

The list goes on.

 

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Again, 8 people died in Indy because someone who should have had his gun taken away didn't.

Expand on that

Why should he have not had a gun?

 

[2aguy]

How many more would die like the woman in this example because they cant defend themselves?

I know that woman was damn lucky that libs like you didnt take her gun away

Again, 8 people died in Indy because someone who should have had his gun taken away didn't.
Six people in Colorado...

The list goes on.

And in each case they were known to authorities who didn't do anything....

10,235 gun murders in 2019....over 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are criminals, not normal citizens. The rest of the victims? The majority are friends and family of criminals caught in the shootings........

If you don't associate with criminals, if you don't have gang members in your family, and you don't live in democrat party voting districts where almost all of these murders happen, because of democrat party policies.....then you don't have much, if anything to fear about being murdered by a criminal with a gun.....

And if we would lock up gun offenders....and keep the democrats from letting them out of jail and prison over and over again......our gun murder problem would go down 95%...

1.1 million Americans use their legal guns to stop violent rape, robbery and murder .....each year, on average, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

Can you tell which number is bigger?

 

[JoeB131]

Again, 8 people died in Indy because someone who should have had his gun taken away didn't.

Expand on that

Why should he have not had a gun?

Becasue his mother told the cops he was suicidal and was likely to commit suicide by cop. The cops took his gun away. He then walked right up into the gun store and bought him a new gun, walked to the Fed Ex office and shot 7 people before shooting himself.

And in each case they were known to authorities who didn't do anything....

Give the authorities the ability to do something. Red flag laws. Strict penalties for people who sell guns to dangerous people. You guys water down the ability of government to do anything about guns, and then whine about how government didn't stop "Second Amendment Hero of the Week".

 

[JoeB131]

10,235 gun murders in 2019....over 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are criminals, not normal citizens. The rest of the victims? The majority are friends and family of criminals caught in the shootings........

More like 14,000, and 83% of them were people who knew each other.

 

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Give the authorities the ability to do something. Red flag laws. Strict penalties for people who sell guns to dangerous people.

I take your desire to disarm honest citizens like the mother in the “Shoot him again!” video seriously so I went back and refreshed my memory about the FEDEX shooting

And I found an interesting quote in one news report:

“ In March 2020, the suspect’s mother contacted law enforcement to report he might try to" attempt "suicide by cop," said FBI Special Agent in Charge Paul Keenan, who runs the bureau's Indianapolis field office.

The phrase "suicide by cop" refers to a self-destructive person who intentionally draws the attention of police in hopes of a deadly confrontation.

"A shotgun was seized at his residence. Based on items observed in the suspect’s bedroom at that time, he was interviewed by the FBI in April 2020.

No Racially Motivated Violent Extremism (RMVE) ideology was identified during the course of the assessment

and no criminali violation was found," the statement said. "The shotgun was not returned to the suspect.”

“no racially motivated violent extremism” was found so the FBI lost interest.

He was deemed no threat to minorities so who gives a shit?

Dont punish honest gun owners for the slovenly attitude of the FBI

They had a red flag law

But instead of going to court and getting the legal authority to prevent him from buying another gun the lazy bastards in the Deep State did nothing

8 FedEx employees killed in shooting at Indianapolis facility; suspect also dead

The suspected gunman in the shooting killed himself, police said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[JoeB131]

But instead of going to court and getting the legal authority to prevent him from buying another gun the lazy bastards in the Deep State did nothing

Or they realized the NRA has so watered down gun laws, it's nearly impossible to keep a crazy person from getting guns.

So here's my solution. No ATF, No FBI, no local police.

Make the gun sellers completely responsible for background checks.

And make them legally liable when they sell a gun to the wrong person in civil court.

I promise you, instead of marketing to the crazies, they'll be doing Rorschach tests at the counter.

"Someone getting his head blowed off... someone getting his head blowed off... someone getting his head blowed off."

"Okay, NO GUN FOR YOU!!"

 

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Or they realized the NRA has so watered down gun laws, it's nearly impossible to keep a crazy person from getting guns.

That didnt stop them from illegally seizing the shotgun

They could have followed up by taking the case to a federal judge and getting him banned from buying another gun

But they didnt do that

What happened was that the FBI was politicized by Black Lies Matter bullshit and too lazy to do their job when minorities were not being threatened

 

[JoeB131]

Or they realized the NRA has so watered down gun laws, it's nearly impossible to keep a crazy person from getting guns.

That didnt stop them from illegally seizing the shotgun

They could have followed up by taking the case to a federal judge and getting him banned from buying another gun

But they didnt do that

What happened was that the FBI was politicized by Black Lies Matter bullshit and too lazy to do their job when minorities were not being threatened

Or they realize that if they did, they'd have to litigate against every bunch of gun nutters in the world. When you start with a silly concept that the Militia Amendment gives everyone a right to a gun, then taking away someone's right to have one becomes as difficult as trying to keep him from going to the church that he wants to.

 

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Or they realize that if they did, they'd have to litigate against every bunch of gun nutters in the world.

You are really going under for the third time on this one

The FBI could have prevented the FEDEX shooting but chose not to do so for political reasons

 

[JoeB131]

You are really going under for the third time on this one

The FBI could have prevented the FEDEX shooting but chose not to do so for political reasons

You mean they knew they'd be pissing up a rope. All they really had was his mommy was worried about him being a loser.

You really can't abrogate a right in court based on that. You can't arrest people for what they MIGHT do.

Now, if you dump the concept that gun ownership is a right and hold the gun seller responsible for selling guns to the crazies, you MIGHT make some progress.

 

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You mean they knew they'd be pissing up a rope.

The rope as you call it didnt stop the FBI from seizing the shotgun

They could have followed by by getting a court order and putting the kid on the No Buy list

But since he was deemed as no threat to black people the feds didnt care

 

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You really can't abrogate a right in court based on that. You can't arrest people for what they MIGHT do.

Really?

What do you think libs beloved Red Flag laws do?

Red Flag take away the right to obtain a gun BEFORE the suspect commits a crime

The left is too lazy to follow its own shitty procedures

 

[JoeB131]

The rope as you call it didnt stop the FBI from seizing the shotgun

They could have followed by by getting a court order and putting the kid on the No Buy list

But since he was deemed as no threat to black people the feds didnt care

Wow, you live in your own fantasy world, don't you?

Really?

What do you think libs beloved Red Flag laws do?

Red Flag take away the right to obtain a gun BEFORE the suspect commits a crime

The left is too lazy to follow its own shitty procedures

Try to educate yourself. Oh, it's from NRP, and I'm sure you think they are in on the Deep State, Lizard People Conspiracy to make Trump look stupid and make frogs gay...



SHERIDAN: The office doesn't have much time, only 14 days, to build and file a case, and a lack of access to mental health records restricts that process. Indiana adopted one of the country's first red flag laws after an Indianapolis police officer was killed by a man whose guns had been returned to him by police after a mental health crisis. Moms Demand Action founder Shannon Watts says Indiana's law is no longer up to date with other newer versions.

SHERIDAN: But would it have helped at the FedEx shootings in Indianapolis? The gunman was only 19 and didn't have a documented history of mental health problems before last year. Police in Indianapolis have said the investigation so far indicates the gunman engaged in online white supremacy activity. Four of the eight people killed were from the Sikh community in Indianapolis, which is now calling for a racial investigation. Shannon Watts with Moms Demand Action says red flag laws can work, but in the midst of record levels of violence, action is needed now.

 

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The rope as you call it didnt stop the FBI from seizing the shotgun

They could have followed by by getting a court order and putting the kid on the No Buy list

But since he was deemed as no threat to black people the feds didnt care

Wow, you live in your own fantasy world, don't you?

Really?

What do you think libs beloved Red Flag laws do?

Red Flag take away the right to obtain a gun BEFORE the suspect commits a crime

The left is too lazy to follow its own shitty procedures

Try to educate yourself. Oh, it's from NRP, and I'm sure you think they are in on the Deep State, Lizard People Conspiracy to make Trump look stupid and make frogs gay...



SHERIDAN: The office doesn't have much time, only 14 days, to build and file a case, and a lack of access to mental health records restricts that process. Indiana adopted one of the country's first red flag laws after an Indianapolis police officer was killed by a man whose guns had been returned to him by police after a mental health crisis. Moms Demand Action founder Shannon Watts says Indiana's law is no longer up to date with other newer versions.

SHERIDAN: But would it have helped at the FedEx shootings in Indianapolis? The gunman was only 19 and didn't have a documented history of mental health problems before last year. Police in Indianapolis have said the investigation so far indicates the gunman engaged in online white supremacy activity. Four of the eight people killed were from the Sikh community in Indianapolis, which is now calling for a racial investigation. Shannon Watts with Moms Demand Action says red flag laws can work, but in the midst of record levels of violence, action is needed now.

The lefty shills at NPR tell a slightly different story than the libs at NBC News

NBC says that the shooter was not making threats against black people and no further action was taken

NPR says that he was basically a white supremacist who eventually killed 4 immigrants from india

In either case the government made no effort to put him on the No Buy list

 

[JoeB131]

The lefty shills at NPR tell a slightly different story than the libs at NBC News

NBC says that the shooter was not making threats against black people and no further action was taken

NPR says that he was basically a white supremacist who eventually killed 4 immigrants from india

In either case the government made no effort to put him on the No Buy list

Oh, I'm sure that's what you heard in your head.

 

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Oh I'm sure that's what you heard in your head.

NBC News made it clear

Once the FBI was assured that he was no threat to black people they lost interest