Another $12B to Ukraine…what is with this constant supply of money and weapons to Ukraine?

[Rigby5]

What mobile nuclear missiles?

Any US cruise missiles, like Tomahawks.
They did not used to have nuclear warheads, but they do now.

 

[MinTrut]

it never stops.....the Vegetable in Chief and his thugs just care about this corrupt POS Zelensky on the other side of the world, this stolen Administration would not give a shit about Americans in need! SHAME!


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It's all about destroying Russia.

This was 30+ years in the making, and Puppet Joe was the perfect sociopath to figurehead it.

The US cares about Ukraine as much as Hitler cared for Jews.

 

[Rigby5]

LIAR

We nebver put nyukes in Poland and we have nnot tried to put any nukes in europe since the sixties

Wrong.
ABMs are specifically nuclear.
We constantly are trying to put nukes in Europe, not just Poland, but Finland, Sweden, Lithuania, Latvia, etc.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Wrong.
The US imposed a US layer on all oil sales.
Sure Rumsfeld and Cheney lied and said we were not in control of Iraq's oil, but the reality is we were and Iraq was not allowed to sell any oil itself.
We also sold off the rights to oil fields so it just looked like privatization, but in reality it was the US that was profiting from it.
I am not going to bother looking for quotes because it was so obviously illegal that there are lots of fake cover stories, but anyone would be a fool to believe them.

I provided a link you fucking dumbass! Why are such a lying sack of shit? I prove you worng and your only response is "Nun-huh!"

You are a fucking child! STFU and go away! You are a waste of human flesh!

 

[MinTrut]

Billions and Billions to Ukraine, shit for America!

What kind of President is that?

POS

Your expectations for demented rapists/child molesters like Biden are clearly too high.

 

[MinTrut]

oh Lordy, are you ok? you sound a little lost to me at the moment!

At the always.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Any US cruise missiles, like Tomahawks.
They did not used to have nuclear warheads, but they do now.

No, they do NOT! I provided a link saying the ground launch variant was retired in 1991. Can you simply not read?

 

[MinTrut]

You mean that Zelensky is Biden's puppet.
The US took over the Ukraine government in 2014.

And Biden is The Swamp's puppet.

This was 30+ years in the making.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Wrong.
ABMs are specifically nuclear.
We constantly are trying to put nukes in Europe, not just Poland, but Finland, Sweden, Lithuania, Latvia, etc.

Oh, Jesus fucking Christ! ABMs are NOT nuclear! Where do you get this bullshit? You never provide links to your sources so we must assume you are simply making shit up!

Go to bed and suck your boyfriend's cock and maybe you'll get something out of it!

 

[MinTrut]

Wrong.
Fascism is an extreme form of capitalism, in order to increase profits to the wealthy elite, oligarchy.
That describes the US better then Russia.
Russia has free universal health care, more accessible education, and does not go invading countries all the time, like the US does.
Look at history.
The US tried to establish puppet dictators in China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc.
Russia has always taken the side of local autonomy, and opposed the US.
So then the US is the bad guys, and Russia has always been the good guys.
Then look at the Ukraine.
Clearly the principle of "local autonomy" says that the ethnic Russians in the Donetsk, Crimea, etc., deserve to be free from the genocide coming out of Kyiv, by the racist and corrupt, ethnic polish government there.

^ Actually knows history.

 

[Rigby5]

You are a bald faced LIAR>

ABMS are NOT nuclear you uneducated FOOL.

We have not tried to put nukes in eastern europe since the sixties that is a fuckingf fact

Wrong.
All US ABM systems have all been nuclear until the Patriot.
Here is a synopsis:
{...
With all this ground work, the anti-ballistic efforts finally gathered around two specific projects in the mid-1950s as the technology required to actually produce an ABM started to exist along with the need to actually have one with the growing numbers of ICBMs starting to be deployed. The US Air Force had a project call Wizard (MX-794) which had started just after WWII in 1946, and by the mid-1950s had a number of companies including Convair Astronautics, RCA, Lockheed and Raytheon providing input . These studies involved the interception of an incoming ICBM RV at distances up to 1,600km (1,000 miles) from the RV's target point. Out of Wizard, came the basic process that was later followed by other US ABM systems. This was target acquisition and subsequent tracking of that target, a nuclear tipped missile for interception which was guided using a separate target tracking radar.

In February 1955, a contract was placed with Bell Telephone Laboratories by the US Army for an anti-missile missile with an associated control system similar in concept to that employed by the Nike Ajax and Nike Hercules anti-aircraft systems.
...}

They had no other way to intercept any incoming back then except for nuclear.
ABMs have always been entirely nuclear in the past.

 

[Rigby5]

You are a bald faced LIAR>

ABMS are NOT nuclear you uneducated FOOL.

We have not tried to put nukes in eastern europe since the sixties that is a fuckingf fact

And yes, the US has always had nukes in Europe.
{...

Meet the nuke the U.S. keeps in Europe, waiting to not be used​

It’s estimated there are 100 of these B61 nuclear bombs there, designed to unify NATO and deter Russia​

Near steep vineyards of riesling grapes, in an underground vault at an air force base in western Germany, sits an American nuclear bomb. More than one of them, actually. Each bomb is about the length of two refrigerators laid down end to end and as heavy as the average adult male musk ox. The bombs are slender and pointy and a little more than a foot wide. Experts estimate that there are about 100 such bombs stored among five NATO countries, ready to be loaded on jets and dropped by the United States and its allies — old-school style, parachute and all — toward an enemy target. One version of this bomb can carry the explosive equivalent of 11 Hiroshimas.

The bomb’s family name is B61. Over the past half-century, in various modifications, B61s have been sent to Europe to deter Russia and reassure the NATO alliance, and they remain there for those reasons. Scenarios for their detonation seem far-fetched — but perhaps not as far-fetched as they seemed a month ago. As Russia’s invasion of Ukraine triggers another round of anxiety about World War III, the B61 remains the only U.S. nuclear weapons system based in Europe, a forward-deployed reassurance for NATO at a time when Russian President Vladimir Putin is rattling his own nuclear saber.
...}

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Wrong.
All US ABM systems have all been nuclear until the Patriot.
Here is a synopsis:
{...
With all this ground work, the anti-ballistic efforts finally gathered around two specific projects in the mid-1950s as the technology required to actually produce an ABM started to exist along with the need to actually have one with the growing numbers of ICBMs starting to be deployed. The US Air Force had a project call Wizard (MX-794) which had started just after WWII in 1946, and by the mid-1950s had a number of companies including Convair Astronautics, RCA, Lockheed and Raytheon providing input . These studies involved the interception of an incoming ICBM RV at distances up to 1,600km (1,000 miles) from the RV's target point. Out of Wizard, came the basic process that was later followed by other US ABM systems. This was target acquisition and subsequent tracking of that target, a nuclear tipped missile for interception which was guided using a separate target tracking radar.

In February 1955, a contract was placed with Bell Telephone Laboratories by the US Army for an anti-missile missile with an associated control system similar in concept to that employed by the Nike Ajax and Nike Hercules anti-aircraft systems.
...}

They had no other way to intercept any incoming back then except for nuclear.
ABMs have always been entirely nuclear in the past.

You are incapable to read your own fucking writing? I know you don't read the sources you rarely post. Yu are talking ancinet fucking history!

I was a naval officer whose first assignment was as a nuclear weapons officer on a guided missile cruiser. We carried anti-aircraft nuclear weapons designed to be used against the Soviet bomber formations and nuclear rocket thrown depth charges to be used against submarines. While I finished that tour and went on shore duty, they removed them. My second guided missile cruiser had no nuclear weapons on board of any kind! This was in the 1980s.

 

[Rigby5]

Oh, Jesus fucking Christ! ABMs are NOT nuclear! Where do you get this bullshit? You never provide links to your sources so we must assume you are simply making shit up!

Go to bed and suck your boyfriend's cock and maybe you'll get something out of it!

Wrong.
US ABMs were always nuclear until the Patriot.

{...
The main missile was LIM-49 Spartan—a Nike Zeus upgraded for longer range and a much larger 5 megaton warhead intended to destroy enemy's warheads with a burst of x-rays outside the atmosphere. A second shorter-range missile called Sprint with very high acceleration was added to handle warheads that evaded longer-ranged Spartan. Sprint was a very fast missile (some sources[who?] claimed it accelerated to 8,000 mph (13 000 km/h) within 4 seconds of flight—an average acceleration of 90 g) and had a smaller W66 enhanced radiation warhead in the 1–3 kiloton range for in-atmosphere interceptions.
...}

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/03/25/nuclear-weapon-b61-russia/

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
ABMs are specifically nuclear.
We constantly are trying to put nukes in Europe, not just Poland, but Finland, Sweden, Lithuania, Latvia, etc.

Absolutely wrong you uninformed cretin.

ABMS are NOT nuclear. ABMS are designed to shoot down other missiles which require high maneuverability. This cannot be achieved with a heavy nuclear wasrhead.

You are a liar and do not know what the fuck you are talking asbout and are just making shit up as you go.

One more time dumbass we have not tried to put any nukes in Poland or any other nations since the sixties.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And yes, the US has always had nukes in Europe.
{...

Meet the nuke the U.S. keeps in Europe, waiting to not be used​

It’s estimated there are 100 of these B61 nuclear bombs there, designed to unify NATO and deter Russia​

Near steep vineyards of riesling grapes, in an underground vault at an air force base in western Germany, sits an American nuclear bomb. More than one of them, actually. Each bomb is about the length of two refrigerators laid down end to end and as heavy as the average adult male musk ox. The bombs are slender and pointy and a little more than a foot wide. Experts estimate that there are about 100 such bombs stored among five NATO countries, ready to be loaded on jets and dropped by the United States and its allies — old-school style, parachute and all — toward an enemy target. One version of this bomb can carry the explosive equivalent of 11 Hiroshimas.

The bomb’s family name is B61. Over the past half-century, in various modifications, B61s have been sent to Europe to deter Russia and reassure the NATO alliance, and they remain there for those reasons. Scenarios for their detonation seem far-fetched — but perhaps not as far-fetched as they seemed a month ago. As Russia’s invasion of Ukraine triggers another round of anxiety about World War III, the B61 remains the only U.S. nuclear weapons system based in Europe, a forward-deployed reassurance for NATO at a time when Russian President Vladimir Putin is rattling his own nuclear saber.
...}

That's a fucking bomb carried by aircraft, not a fucking missile, dipshit!

I am truly amazed that any human being could be as stupid as you appear to be.

 

[Soupnazi630]

And yes, the US has always had nukes in Europe.
{...

Meet the nuke the U.S. keeps in Europe, waiting to not be used​

It’s estimated there are 100 of these B61 nuclear bombs there, designed to unify NATO and deter Russia​

Near steep vineyards of riesling grapes, in an underground vault at an air force base in western Germany, sits an American nuclear bomb. More than one of them, actually. Each bomb is about the length of two refrigerators laid down end to end and as heavy as the average adult male musk ox. The bombs are slender and pointy and a little more than a foot wide. Experts estimate that there are about 100 such bombs stored among five NATO countries, ready to be loaded on jets and dropped by the United States and its allies — old-school style, parachute and all — toward an enemy target. One version of this bomb can carry the explosive equivalent of 11 Hiroshimas.

The bomb’s family name is B61. Over the past half-century, in various modifications, B61s have been sent to Europe to deter Russia and reassure the NATO alliance, and they remain there for those reasons. Scenarios for their detonation seem far-fetched — but perhaps not as far-fetched as they seemed a month ago. As Russia’s invasion of Ukraine triggers another round of anxiety about World War III, the B61 remains the only U.S. nuclear weapons system based in Europe, a forward-deployed reassurance for NATO at a time when Russian President Vladimir Putin is rattling his own nuclear saber.
...}

Germany is not on Russias border you total moron nor is it Ukraine

You claims that Ukraine tried to put nukes on Russias border are absolute lies

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
US ABMs were always nuclear until the Patriot.

{...
The main missile was LIM-49 Spartan—a Nike Zeus upgraded for longer range and a much larger 5 megaton warhead intended to destroy enemy's warheads with a burst of x-rays outside the atmosphere. A second shorter-range missile called Sprint with very high acceleration was added to handle warheads that evaded longer-ranged Spartan. Sprint was a very fast missile (some sources[who?] claimed it accelerated to 8,000 mph (13 000 km/h) within 4 seconds of flight—an average acceleration of 90 g) and had a smaller W66 enhanced radiation warhead in the 1–3 kiloton range for in-atmosphere interceptions.
...}

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/03/25/nuclear-weapon-b61-russia/

Which is what proves you wrong you stupid drooling liar.

ABMs are NOT nuclear

 

[Rigby5]

You are incapable to read your own fucking writing? I know you don't read the sources you rarely post. Yu are talking ancinet fucking history!

I was a naval officer whose first assignment was as a nuclear weapons officer on a guided missile cruiser. We carried anti-aircraft nuclear weapons designed to be used against the Soviet bomber formations and nuclear rocket thrown depth charges to be used against submarines. While I finished that tour and went on shore duty, they removed them. My second guided missile cruiser had no nuclear weapons on board of any kind! This was in the 1980s.

Wrong.
The ABM missiles sent to Poland were specifically nuclear Sprint missiles.
They clearly were never intended to knock out incoming Iranian missiles, and it was all a ruse.
Sprints are intermediate range nuclear missiles.
Sure the missiles are ancient, but the attempt to put them in Poland was not.

 

[Rigby5]

Germany is not on Russias border you total moron nor is it Ukraine

You claims that Ukraine tried to put nukes on Russias border are absolute lies

You said there were no US nukes in Europe.
Clearly Zelensky said he wanted US nukes.