Angry, Armed and White

[2aguy]

OK then start your list of all the weak and stupid nations/countries/races/families/groups who subjugated others smarter and stronger than themselves.

Let me help you with some headlines that might exist in your dream world:

Cherokees conquer France and teach French how to have a classical orchestra of only drums.
Hutus subjugate England and force Englishmen to drive their water buffaloes on the right side of road..
Aztecs and Mayas combine forces to teach Spain a lesson, to be joined by Incas at later date.

First, your premise is stupid and void of any higher level of intellectualism.

You state that groups of people that have been conquered are "weak and stupid" however there is no single article, fact, scientific or sociological field that supports such a statement.

Many native and indigenous populations were conquered by Europeans in large by the disease and pestilence Europeans visited on them by their presence.
This had nothing to do with intelligence or strength as you falsely assert.

Further, many indigenous people had their own systems of language, art, literature and customs, many of which were claimed by Europeans as inventions of Europeans.

You ignorantly imply that the Cherokees only used drums as a musical instrument while comparing it to the orchestras of the English and French, I understand that your limited knowledge of history and a European centered education failed to inform you that the Cherokees had many different types of musical instruments and their music was as intricate as any symphony.

The ability of the Europeans to wage war, reduce people to slaves and steal what belonged to others is quite an accomplishment, however only a fool would use such a yardstick to measure intelligence or strength.

If you care to look up the definition of "subjugate", it will be totally devoid of any mention of intelligence.

And yet when the Europeans came....the indians were technologically inferior...which was the biggest reason they lost the continent to the more technologically advanced
Europeans....

So my statement remains uncontested...there is no single scientific, sociological fact, report,study or report that sustains the contention that the indigenous people that were subjugated by Europeans were "weak and stupid."

Is this the reason you are attempting to reframe that earlier statement???

I didn't say they were weak....they would have to be tough to survive the winters here in the Midwest....and on the coast....and not stupid.....just technologically backward....I mean...they had been around as long as the people in Europe, and yet did not have wheeled transportation, sailing ships, gun powder, sophisticated metal working, modern (for the time) farming techniques...the knowledge of stone work.....

And that is why they lost the continent.....why they didn't have the same level of technology as Europe....you answer that.......same as the Japanese...they were still in their Feudal era when they were forced, at canon point to open their harbors.......dittos AFrica.....been around as long as the Europeans....technologically backward in comparison....you explain that........

You piggy backed off of the poster that stated every culture subjugated by Europeans were weak and stupid. You changed the gist of the question and I asked you why.
In terms of technology the people of Africa had farming techniques specifically for the soil conditions in Africa, they also practiced metallurgy before the Europeans they also has sailing ships. The one area where Europeans dominated was in the practice of colonizing other continents and enslaving it's people, for that reason alone Europeans dominated other people.

do you realize that the slaves Europeans brought to the New World were captured and enslaved....by Africans.....and sold to Europeans......and no...small boats with one limp,sail are not the same as the ocean going sail craft of Europe.....or the metallurgy that produced swords, cannon and metal plows and any other number of sophisticated metal work....like time pieces.....

The Europeans dominated colonization only because they were technologically superior to the cultures they found.....

 

[2aguy]

People have a long track record,people of every color,violence/bigotry/racism is color blind.

Tell it to Columbus. White subjugation of non-whites because the non-whites were "savages" relative to European peoples.

And that was hundreds of years ago. We are now in the present day. How many decades do non whites get to murder white people and have it be OK to appease you and those like you? Just curious. And can you tell me a place where non whites are civil to each other? You know, point to a place where they don't rape and murder at higher rates than "white" areas.

If we're going to go down the cultural relativism path lets lay out all the facts.

Lay out some facts, then. Your post is just an opinion.

Here you go. Knock yourself out. These are all from NGO's or universities.

A history of violence The state youth and memory in contemporary Africa

Graduate Institute Geneva HI022 Violence History and Memory in Twentieth-Century Africa

A brief history of ethnic violence in Rwanda and Africa s Great Lakes region OUPblog

Table of Contents The Dynamics of Violence in Central Africa

Taking on violence against women in Africa Africa Renewal Online

http://www.issafrica.org/crimehub/uploads/comparing_crime_in_mozambique_and_south_africa.pdf

'Scuze me......So all you could find were articles referring to violence in Africa? I believe my post was about a law passed in THE UNITED STATES in 1830 as I think that's what we were discussing.

Can you at least stick to the western hemisphere?

I went to Tanzania in 1999. Before we went in country we were told that there were 16 active civil wars and several outbreaks of Ebola throughout the continent, luckily nowhere near where we were, which was the southern part of the Congo. So, I saw a lot of black people. If they become violent there's not many other races to kill unless they go to Johannesburg.

Hmmmm...how many people were killed by Ebola inAfrica.....how many when the infected were brought here? difference in technology levels....

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Yeah, that's right. So you don't think they're being Muslims had anything to do with it? The sister of the girl on the right said that Hicks had no idea that the man on the left was Muslim until he married and brought his wife home to his apartment. Hicks started harassing them then because she wears a hijab.

The killer was an leftist, atheist. He hated Christians as well..what was the point again?

I went through his Facebook page. A couple of likes for two liberal online articles in a sea of other likes doesn't constitute a liberal.

That's how YOU want to spin it, fine, because your bias and prejudice keeps you warm at night.

But he was a fucking gun nut, that's for sure. Waving his guns around the neighborhood and bragging about his arsenal in his apartment. That can be verified.

Police find cache of guns, ammunition at Chapel Hill shooting suspect's home
Read more here: Local North Carolina state news from Raleigh NC NewsObserver.com
"
Neighbors described Hicks as someone who was often angry with residents about noise and parking problems at the complex. Relatives of the victims said Hicks had showed a gun in previous encounters."""

Did you see the pages he likes? SPLC,Maddow,Atheists for queers etc...guy was a moron and an all around white anti white.

If you clicked on those Maddow and HuffPost "likes" you would have been taken to articles about Christian/atheist issues. It looks like FB has taken his page down.

 

[Preacher]

Yeah, that's right. So you don't think they're being Muslims had anything to do with it? The sister of the girl on the right said that Hicks had no idea that the man on the left was Muslim until he married and brought his wife home to his apartment. Hicks started harassing them then because she wears a hijab.

The killer was an leftist, atheist. He hated Christians as well..what was the point again?

I went through his Facebook page. A couple of likes for two liberal online articles in a sea of other likes doesn't constitute a liberal.

That's how YOU want to spin it, fine, because your bias and prejudice keeps you warm at night.

But he was a fucking gun nut, that's for sure. Waving his guns around the neighborhood and bragging about his arsenal in his apartment. That can be verified.

Police find cache of guns, ammunition at Chapel Hill shooting suspect's home
Read more here: Local North Carolina state news from Raleigh NC NewsObserver.com
"
Neighbors described Hicks as someone who was often angry with residents about noise and parking problems at the complex. Relatives of the victims said Hicks had showed a gun in previous encounters."""

Did you see the pages he likes? SPLC,Maddow,Atheists for queers etc...guy was a moron and an all around white anti white.

If you clicked on those Maddow and HuffPost "likes" you would have been taken to articles about Christian/atheist issues. It looks like FB has taken his page down.

When you LIKE something on FB it means you like their FB page...for Maddow it would have posted ANYTHING she talks about on her show etc. Same with HuffPost. Same with SPLC...I am not talking about stuff on his timeline.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Tell it to Columbus. White subjugation of non-whites because the non-whites were "savages" relative to European peoples.

And that was hundreds of years ago. We are now in the present day. How many decades do non whites get to murder white people and have it be OK to appease you and those like you? Just curious. And can you tell me a place where non whites are civil to each other? You know, point to a place where they don't rape and murder at higher rates than "white" areas.

If we're going to go down the cultural relativism path lets lay out all the facts.

Lay out some facts, then. Your post is just an opinion.

Here you go. Knock yourself out. These are all from NGO's or universities.

A history of violence The state youth and memory in contemporary Africa

Graduate Institute Geneva HI022 Violence History and Memory in Twentieth-Century Africa

A brief history of ethnic violence in Rwanda and Africa s Great Lakes region OUPblog

Table of Contents The Dynamics of Violence in Central Africa

Taking on violence against women in Africa Africa Renewal Online

http://www.issafrica.org/crimehub/uploads/comparing_crime_in_mozambique_and_south_africa.pdf

'Scuze me......So all you could find were articles referring to violence in Africa? I believe my post was about a law passed in THE UNITED STATES in 1830 as I think that's what we were discussing.

Can you at least stick to the western hemisphere?

I went to Tanzania in 1999. Before we went in country we were told that there were 16 active civil wars and several outbreaks of Ebola throughout the continent, luckily nowhere near where we were, which was the southern part of the Congo. So, I saw a lot of black people. If they become violent there's not many other races to kill unless they go to Johannesburg.

Hmmmm...how many people were killed by Ebola inAfrica.....how many when the infected were brought here? difference in technology levels....

You've wandered so far off into the weeds, and these links to violence in Africa....Has NOTHING to do with the topic of the total hypocrisy of the Christians.

 

[2aguy]

And that was hundreds of years ago. We are now in the present day. How many decades do non whites get to murder white people and have it be OK to appease you and those like you? Just curious. And can you tell me a place where non whites are civil to each other? You know, point to a place where they don't rape and murder at higher rates than "white" areas.

If we're going to go down the cultural relativism path lets lay out all the facts.

Lay out some facts, then. Your post is just an opinion.

Human beings are hypocrites, not just Christian human beings.......are you saying that Japanese, Bhudists, atheists, Swedes, Nigerians, Columbians, Scientologists, Jains, and other humans aren't hypocrites......?








Here you go. Knock yourself out. These are all from NGO's or universities.

A history of violence The state youth and memory in contemporary Africa

Graduate Institute Geneva HI022 Violence History and Memory in Twentieth-Century Africa

A brief history of ethnic violence in Rwanda and Africa s Great Lakes region OUPblog

Table of Contents The Dynamics of Violence in Central Africa

Taking on violence against women in Africa Africa Renewal Online

http://www.issafrica.org/crimehub/uploads/comparing_crime_in_mozambique_and_south_africa.pdf

'Scuze me......So all you could find were articles referring to violence in Africa? I believe my post was about a law passed in THE UNITED STATES in 1830 as I think that's what we were discussing.

Can you at least stick to the western hemisphere?

I went to Tanzania in 1999. Before we went in country we were told that there were 16 active civil wars and several outbreaks of Ebola throughout the continent, luckily nowhere near where we were, which was the southern part of the Congo. So, I saw a lot of black people. If they become violent there's not many other races to kill unless they go to Johannesburg.

Hmmmm...how many people were killed by Ebola inAfrica.....how many when the infected were brought here? difference in technology levels....

You've wandered so far off into the weeds, and these links to violence in Africa....Has NOTHING to do with the topic of the total hypocrisy of the Christians.

 

[hortysir]

Awesome!
It's about fucking time you asswipes got around to saying it:
The real face of terror is a white man with a semiautomatic handgun.
(pay no attention to the other hand)

 

[hortysir]

And that was hundreds of years ago. We are now in the present day. How many decades do non whites get to murder white people and have it be OK to appease you and those like you? Just curious. And can you tell me a place where non whites are civil to each other? You know, point to a place where they don't rape and murder at higher rates than "white" areas.

If we're going to go down the cultural relativism path lets lay out all the facts.

Lay out some facts, then. Your post is just an opinion.

Here you go. Knock yourself out. These are all from NGO's or universities.

A history of violence The state youth and memory in contemporary Africa

Graduate Institute Geneva HI022 Violence History and Memory in Twentieth-Century Africa

A brief history of ethnic violence in Rwanda and Africa s Great Lakes region OUPblog

Table of Contents The Dynamics of Violence in Central Africa

Taking on violence against women in Africa Africa Renewal Online

http://www.issafrica.org/crimehub/uploads/comparing_crime_in_mozambique_and_south_africa.pdf

'Scuze me......So all you could find were articles referring to violence in Africa? I believe my post was about a law passed in THE UNITED STATES in 1830 as I think that's what we were discussing.

Can you at least stick to the western hemisphere?

I went to Tanzania in 1999. Before we went in country we were told that there were 16 active civil wars and several outbreaks of Ebola throughout the continent, luckily nowhere near where we were, which was the southern part of the Congo. So, I saw a lot of black people. If they become violent there's not many other races to kill unless they go to Johannesburg.

Hmmmm...how many people were killed by Ebola inAfrica.....how many when the infected were brought here? difference in technology levels....

You've wandered so far off into the weeds, and these links to violence in Africa....Has NOTHING to do with the topic of the total hypocrisy of the Christians.

The OP is about Christians' hypocrisy?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Yeah, that's right. So you don't think they're being Muslims had anything to do with it? The sister of the girl on the right said that Hicks had no idea that the man on the left was Muslim until he married and brought his wife home to his apartment. Hicks started harassing them then because she wears a hijab.

The killer was an leftist, atheist. He hated Christians as well..what was the point again?

I went through his Facebook page. A couple of likes for two liberal online articles in a sea of other likes doesn't constitute a liberal.

That's how YOU want to spin it, fine, because your bias and prejudice keeps you warm at night.

But he was a fucking gun nut, that's for sure. Waving his guns around the neighborhood and bragging about his arsenal in his apartment. That can be verified.

Police find cache of guns, ammunition at Chapel Hill shooting suspect's home
Read more here: Local North Carolina state news from Raleigh NC NewsObserver.com
"
Neighbors described Hicks as someone who was often angry with residents about noise and parking problems at the complex. Relatives of the victims said Hicks had showed a gun in previous encounters."""

Did you see the pages he likes? SPLC,Maddow,Atheists for queers etc...guy was a moron and an all around white anti white.

If you clicked on those Maddow and HuffPost "likes" you would have been taken to articles about Christian/atheist issues. It looks like FB has taken his page down.

When you LIKE something on FB it means you like their FB page...for Maddow it would have posted ANYTHING she talks about on her show etc. Same with HuffPost. Same with SPLC...I am not talking about stuff on his timeline.

Nope. When his FB account was live I clicked on those links and they went to specific articles written by Maddow about religion. Same on HuffPost.

Besides, liberals don't shoot Muslims, we try to remind everyone that AQ and ISIS are tiny factions out of group of 1,600,000,000 people.

Hicks ain't no liberal. He's a redneck with guns.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Lay out some facts, then. Your post is just an opinion.

Here you go. Knock yourself out. These are all from NGO's or universities.

A history of violence The state youth and memory in contemporary Africa

Graduate Institute Geneva HI022 Violence History and Memory in Twentieth-Century Africa

A brief history of ethnic violence in Rwanda and Africa s Great Lakes region OUPblog

Table of Contents The Dynamics of Violence in Central Africa

Taking on violence against women in Africa Africa Renewal Online

http://www.issafrica.org/crimehub/uploads/comparing_crime_in_mozambique_and_south_africa.pdf

'Scuze me......So all you could find were articles referring to violence in Africa? I believe my post was about a law passed in THE UNITED STATES in 1830 as I think that's what we were discussing.

Can you at least stick to the western hemisphere?

I went to Tanzania in 1999. Before we went in country we were told that there were 16 active civil wars and several outbreaks of Ebola throughout the continent, luckily nowhere near where we were, which was the southern part of the Congo. So, I saw a lot of black people. If they become violent there's not many other races to kill unless they go to Johannesburg.

Hmmmm...how many people were killed by Ebola inAfrica.....how many when the infected were brought here? difference in technology levels....

You've wandered so far off into the weeds, and these links to violence in Africa....Has NOTHING to do with the topic of the total hypocrisy of the Christians.

The OP is about Christians' hypocrisy?

That's where it was going before white papers about violence in Africa were posted. Someone needs to suspend themselves for going off topic.

 

[2aguy]

No....talking about how evil white people are without pointing out that it is people that are bad, regardless of color or nation of origin is just lazy...and stupid....but of course...that pretty much defines the left....

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

No....talking about how evil white people are without pointing out that it is people that are bad, regardless of color or nation of origin is just lazy...and stupid....but of course...that pretty much defines the left....

In the UNITED STATES....Not Africa or anywhere else.

Here's the headlines for the O/P just in case you forgot.

TEA PARTY AND THE RIGHT
Angry, Armed and White: The Typical Profile of America's Most Violent Extremists
White men, usually right-wingers, are the dominant threat.



Tea Party members are predominantly CHRISTIAN. It's the fucking Christians in this country who are trying to condemn an entire religion for actions of handful of hypocritical terrorists. Hicks was typical of your stupid white man: He was exposed to people that were very different from him and his white-bread, redneck world, so he did what stupid white men with guns do, he shot them in the head.

 

[2aguy]

No....talking about how evil white people are without pointing out that it is people that are bad, regardless of color or nation of origin is just lazy...and stupid....but of course...that pretty much defines the left....

In the UNITED STATES....Not Africa or anywhere else.

Here's the headlines for the O/P just in case you forgot.

TEA PARTY AND THE RIGHT
Angry, Armed and White: The Typical Profile of America's Most Violent Extremists
White men, usually right-wingers, are the dominant threat.



Tea Party members are predominantly CHRISTIAN. It's the fucking Christians in this country who are trying to condemn an entire religion for actions of handful of hypocritical terrorists. Hicks was typical of your stupid white man: He was exposed to people that were very different from him and his white-bread, redneck world, so he did what stupid white men with guns do, he shot them in the head.

And we are just pointing out that the op is completely wrong and misguided....all legitimate aspects of this thread......so get over yourself....

 

[Papageorgio]

The killer was an leftist, atheist. He hated Christians as well..what was the point again?

I went through his Facebook page. A couple of likes for two liberal online articles in a sea of other likes doesn't constitute a liberal.

That's how YOU want to spin it, fine, because your bias and prejudice keeps you warm at night.

But he was a fucking gun nut, that's for sure. Waving his guns around the neighborhood and bragging about his arsenal in his apartment. That can be verified.

Police find cache of guns, ammunition at Chapel Hill shooting suspect's home
Read more here: Local North Carolina state news from Raleigh NC NewsObserver.com
"
Neighbors described Hicks as someone who was often angry with residents about noise and parking problems at the complex. Relatives of the victims said Hicks had showed a gun in previous encounters."""

Did you see the pages he likes? SPLC,Maddow,Atheists for queers etc...guy was a moron and an all around white anti white.

If you clicked on those Maddow and HuffPost "likes" you would have been taken to articles about Christian/atheist issues. It looks like FB has taken his page down.

When you LIKE something on FB it means you like their FB page...for Maddow it would have posted ANYTHING she talks about on her show etc. Same with HuffPost. Same with SPLC...I am not talking about stuff on his timeline.

Nope. When his FB account was live I clicked on those links and they went to specific articles written by Maddow about religion. Same on HuffPost.

Besides, liberals don't shoot Muslims, we try to remind everyone that AQ and ISIS are tiny factions out of group of 1,600,000,000 people.

Hicks ain't no liberal. He's a redneck with guns.

Bullshit, you like a page, like Maddow it takes you right to her page and you can see her left wing propaganda. I just did that.


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[Figaro]

White people have a long and embarassingly awful track record for violence to non-whites. As one of the earliest explorers of the world, as white explorers "discovered" new places with non-white peoples, thinking themselves superior, fair and just treatment wasn't anything they thought well of.

Today, whites in the US are the majority by just a slim amount, and wont be within our lifetimes. This fact probably weighs heavily on many minds manifesting as a significant amount of animosity which when combined with a situational gripe can quickly become violence.

2044 New population projections released by the U.S. Census Bureau show that whites will become a “minority” by 2044, replaced by a “majority” of minority groups, mostly blacks and Hispanics.
Census Whites become minority in 2044 Hispanic population twice blacks WashingtonExaminer.com
Knew this?

 

[Papageorgio]

White people have a long and embarassingly awful track record for violence to non-whites. As one of the earliest explorers of the world, as white explorers "discovered" new places with non-white peoples, thinking themselves superior, fair and just treatment wasn't anything they thought well of.

Today, whites in the US are the majority by just a slim amount, and wont be within our lifetimes. This fact probably weighs heavily on many minds manifesting as a significant amount of animosity which when combined with a situational gripe can quickly become violence.

2044 New population projections released by the U.S. Census Bureau show that whites will become a “minority” by 2044, replaced by a “majority” of minority groups, mostly blacks and Hispanics.
Census Whites become minority in 2044 Hispanic population twice blacks WashingtonExaminer.com
Knew this?

Cool then I will be able to apply for minority status and get government gifts...wait, I'll be dead, so I really don't care.


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[bucs90]

White people have a long and embarassingly awful track record for violence to non-whites. As one of the earliest explorers of the world, as white explorers "discovered" new places with non-white peoples, thinking themselves superior, fair and just treatment wasn't anything they thought well of.

Today, whites in the US are the majority by just a slim amount, and wont be within our lifetimes. This fact probably weighs heavily on many minds manifesting as a significant amount of animosity which when combined with a situational gripe can quickly become violence.

2044 New population projections released by the U.S. Census Bureau show that whites will become a “minority” by 2044, replaced by a “majority” of minority groups, mostly blacks and Hispanics.
Census Whites become minority in 2044 Hispanic population twice blacks WashingtonExaminer.com
Knew this?

Sweet! We'll finally be better...like Africa and Mexico!

 

[westwall]

The killer was an leftist, atheist. He hated Christians as well..what was the point again?

I went through his Facebook page. A couple of likes for two liberal online articles in a sea of other likes doesn't constitute a liberal.

That's how YOU want to spin it, fine, because your bias and prejudice keeps you warm at night.

But he was a fucking gun nut, that's for sure. Waving his guns around the neighborhood and bragging about his arsenal in his apartment. That can be verified.

Police find cache of guns, ammunition at Chapel Hill shooting suspect's home
Read more here: Local North Carolina state news from Raleigh NC NewsObserver.com
"
Neighbors described Hicks as someone who was often angry with residents about noise and parking problems at the complex. Relatives of the victims said Hicks had showed a gun in previous encounters."""

Did you see the pages he likes? SPLC,Maddow,Atheists for queers etc...guy was a moron and an all around white anti white.

If you clicked on those Maddow and HuffPost "likes" you would have been taken to articles about Christian/atheist issues. It looks like FB has taken his page down.

When you LIKE something on FB it means you like their FB page...for Maddow it would have posted ANYTHING she talks about on her show etc. Same with HuffPost. Same with SPLC...I am not talking about stuff on his timeline.

Nope. When his FB account was live I clicked on those links and they went to specific articles written by Maddow about religion. Same on HuffPost.

Besides, liberals don't shoot Muslims, we try to remind everyone that AQ and ISIS are tiny factions out of group of 1,600,000,000 people.

Hicks ain't no liberal. He's a redneck with guns.

All evidence says otherwise. Just like that idiot who shot the Congresswoman, and the other idiot who shot up the movie theatre, Hicks is a collectivist progressive. Just like you.

 

[Publius1787]

Indeed you are correct. However, a white person in a black area has a much higher propensity to be murdered by a black man than a black man in a white area.

Whites display an irrational propensity to murder or harm others based on the color of their skin? Oh my lets put this garbage to rest.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

Color of Crime

As the saying goes and as it pertains to your post "garbage in equals garbage out."

So you expect rational people to believe that an organization whose purpose is to suggest that all people of color are inferior to whites is to be taken seriously???...lol.

So the only source to substantiate your racist propaganda is to use racists as your source???...really...lol.

Tell you what, I'll excuse this lapse of reasonable thought on your part...come back with some site not inhabited by racist kooks.


Color of crime:


Around the nation, white supremacists and their fellow travelers are brandishing copies of a 1999 booklet that purports to show that whites have every reason to be terrified of blacks. For people from former Klansman David Duke to an array of neo-Confederates, The Color of Crime: Race, Crime and Violence in America has become a kind of Bible that shows them that they were right all along.

Sponsored by the New Century Foundation, an organ of white separatist author Jared Taylor, The Color of Crime is being circulated in hard copy and via the Web site of Taylor's magazine American Renaissance.


A lie can travel half-way around the world while the truth is still pulling on its boots.”

Although this truism was penned long before the Internet, there is little doubt but that in the modern era, it has become more prescient than its author could ever have imagined.

When it comes to fast-moving lies, few can top one that has been distributed by white supremacists for the past several years. It is probably the most popular piece of racist propaganda in existence today, and because it relies on official government data, it comes across as sober, intelligent social science, rather than as the compendium of nonsense it happens to be.

The screed to which I refer is, The Color of Crime: Race, Crime and Violence in America, by white nationalist, Jared Taylor. Taylor is the publisher of the racist magazine, American Renaissance, and host of a bi-annual conference, which attracts open neo-Nazis as well as a gaggle of academicians who proclaim black genetic inferiority. According to Taylor, there are several “facts” about crime that have been hidden from view by the civil rights community

But a close examination of these arguments proves that Taylor and his followers are either statistically illiterate, or knowingly deceive for political effect.

First, as for the disproportionate rate of violent crime committed by blacks, economic conditions explain the difference with white crime rates. According to several studies, when community and personal economic status is comparable between whites and blacks, there are no significant racial crime differences (1). In other words, the implicit message of Taylor’s report — that blacks are dangerous because they are black — is insupportable.

Secondly, to claim that blacks are more dangerous than whites because of official crime rates, is to ignore that when it comes to everyday threats to personal well-being, whites far and away lead the pack in all kinds of destructive behaviors: corporate pollution, consumer fraud, violations of health and safety standards on the job, and launching wars on the basis of deceptive evidence, to name a few. Each year, far more people die because of corporate malfeasance, occupational health violations and pollution than all the street crime combined, let alone street crime committed by African Americans


Founded by Jared Taylor in 1990, the New Century Foundation is a self-styled think tank that promotes pseudo-scientific studies and research that purport to show the inferiority of blacks to whites — although in hifalutin language that avoids open racial slurs and attempts to portray itself as serious scholarship. It is best known for its American Renaissance magazine and website, which regularly feature proponents of eugenics and blatant anti-black racists. The foundation also sponsors American Renaissance conferences every other year where racist "intellectuals" rub shoulders with Klansmen, neo-Nazis and other white supremacists.

So the NUMBERS are not disputed nor the percentages, instead you claim that there are excuses for the disparate differences and claim that even though the facts prove other wise somehow whites are to blame. Moron.

Why would I bother to debate skewed numbers or percentages, that would make me as silly as the authors of said articles.

You do understand that simply calling them skewed does not make it so? The real question is whether to argue with someone as ignorant as yourself that fails to grasp the concept of an argument; whereas if the evidence presented is flawed then it is incumbent on the respondent who deems it flawed to counter as to why the evidence is flawed. But you haven't. You simply call the information bogus without proof to back your claim. This is the problem with those who are so ethno-centered or ethno-patronizing that they cannot tell fact from fiction anymore. The only reason anyone would run from the facts is posted in the video below.

You do understand why the only place in the entire WWW where you will find such skewed and misrepresented numbers are on racist hate sites...you can grasp that...can't you.

The reason why they are paraded only in that realm of the less intelligent whites is because in the world of sane adults, those myths of your are too easily debunked.

Next you will be telling me that mein kampf was a scientific study full of facts...lol.

Jared Taylor is intellectually honest???...you have lost any iota of credibility, just stop.

You claim both that the numbers are skewed and easily debunked. Yet you have failed to prove that they are skewed or debunk them. Am I the only one seeing the irony here? Once again there is a difference between condemning and refuting. You've done plenty of the former, but absolutely zero of the latter. I suppose you are incapable of either proving the evidence wrong or at least providing counter evidence? Indeed, when you call someone intellectually dishonest without evidence you've already lost the argument and entered in the realm of mindless contradiction and name calling. No surprise considering who I'm arguing with.

Wait!!! .... You don't know what an argument is do you? My goodness .... you really don't know how to argue. I will post a video below. Perhaps this will lead you in the right direction.

 

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Indeed you are correct. However, a white person in a black area has a much higher propensity to be murdered by a black man than a black man in a white area.

Whites display an irrational propensity to murder or harm others based on the color of their skin? Oh my lets put this garbage to rest.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

Color of Crime

As the saying goes and as it pertains to your post "garbage in equals garbage out."

So you expect rational people to believe that an organization whose purpose is to suggest that all people of color are inferior to whites is to be taken seriously???...lol.

So the only source to substantiate your racist propaganda is to use racists as your source???...really...lol.

Tell you what, I'll excuse this lapse of reasonable thought on your part...come back with some site not inhabited by racist kooks.


Color of crime:


Around the nation, white supremacists and their fellow travelers are brandishing copies of a 1999 booklet that purports to show that whites have every reason to be terrified of blacks. For people from former Klansman David Duke to an array of neo-Confederates, The Color of Crime: Race, Crime and Violence in America has become a kind of Bible that shows them that they were right all along.

Sponsored by the New Century Foundation, an organ of white separatist author Jared Taylor, The Color of Crime is being circulated in hard copy and via the Web site of Taylor's magazine American Renaissance.


A lie can travel half-way around the world while the truth is still pulling on its boots.”

Although this truism was penned long before the Internet, there is little doubt but that in the modern era, it has become more prescient than its author could ever have imagined.

When it comes to fast-moving lies, few can top one that has been distributed by white supremacists for the past several years. It is probably the most popular piece of racist propaganda in existence today, and because it relies on official government data, it comes across as sober, intelligent social science, rather than as the compendium of nonsense it happens to be.

The screed to which I refer is, The Color of Crime: Race, Crime and Violence in America, by white nationalist, Jared Taylor. Taylor is the publisher of the racist magazine, American Renaissance, and host of a bi-annual conference, which attracts open neo-Nazis as well as a gaggle of academicians who proclaim black genetic inferiority. According to Taylor, there are several “facts” about crime that have been hidden from view by the civil rights community

But a close examination of these arguments proves that Taylor and his followers are either statistically illiterate, or knowingly deceive for political effect.

First, as for the disproportionate rate of violent crime committed by blacks, economic conditions explain the difference with white crime rates. According to several studies, when community and personal economic status is comparable between whites and blacks, there are no significant racial crime differences (1). In other words, the implicit message of Taylor’s report — that blacks are dangerous because they are black — is insupportable.

Secondly, to claim that blacks are more dangerous than whites because of official crime rates, is to ignore that when it comes to everyday threats to personal well-being, whites far and away lead the pack in all kinds of destructive behaviors: corporate pollution, consumer fraud, violations of health and safety standards on the job, and launching wars on the basis of deceptive evidence, to name a few. Each year, far more people die because of corporate malfeasance, occupational health violations and pollution than all the street crime combined, let alone street crime committed by African Americans


Founded by Jared Taylor in 1990, the New Century Foundation is a self-styled think tank that promotes pseudo-scientific studies and research that purport to show the inferiority of blacks to whites — although in hifalutin language that avoids open racial slurs and attempts to portray itself as serious scholarship. It is best known for its American Renaissance magazine and website, which regularly feature proponents of eugenics and blatant anti-black racists. The foundation also sponsors American Renaissance conferences every other year where racist "intellectuals" rub shoulders with Klansmen, neo-Nazis and other white supremacists.

Ahhhhh but condemning is not refuting now is it? They used the FBI's Uniform Crime Report and compared it to the Victimization Survey. They did not gather the information. They simply compared the two and found, like the FBI did, that both are near exactly the same. Once again, condemning the man who did the research is not REFUTING the man who did the research. But I suppose you don't know the difference between the two? And the Southern Poverty Law Center is hardly and unbiased source in it of itself (Especially after they got tossed out by the FBI EVEN WITH HOLDER AT THE HELM) (Which is also why you did not link the SPLC to your info isn't it?). So if you have a problem with the stats I'm afraid you're going to need to prove both the victimization survey and FBI's UCR false. But I don't think that possible for one of your aptitude.

Lemme guess. You think all of this is just a simple coincidence? >>> The Racial Makeup of the Most Dangerous Safest Cities in the United States 2014 Edition US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So racists skew and misrepresent facts and you choose to present those skewed stats as factual information???
There is a reason why these types and yourself can't post directly from the FBI sites, it simply won't support the false narrative you attempt to mislead the less intelligent with.
I can understand your attempt at defending the racist and the racist site that distributes this type of pseudo-science and research, without it, you have an even harder time presenting numbers that have been twisted to meet an agenda.

Again, post your "facts" from a legitimate site...I'll wait.

Once again, the numbers come from the victimization survey and the FBI UCR. When both are nearly identical you can rest assured that they are fact. May not be the facts you like but facts nevertheless. With that said there is always error. The only question is whether the error large enough to change the facts. I think not. Can you prove otherwise? Do you have more accurate facts? A better survey? A better study? No? Then run away with your tail between your legs. You just got schooled.

The idea also that I can't post directly from the FBI is nonsense. I've done it many times in this forum. The problem is that you're too uneducated to find it and therefore assume I can't find it. Big mistake. The UCR is open to the public. Here is murder (2013). 2014 is incomplete.

FBI mdash Expanded Homicide Data Table 3

You can get the rest here FBI mdash Violent Crime

Remember as you read it. Blacks make up 13% of the population and whites make up 69%. So if 13% of the population commits 50% of the murders, well .... never mind... you wont understand those numbers now will you?

As usual, you have stuck your foot in your mouth...why aren't I surprised.
There is not a single entry in the FBI stats to support the contention that your racist site or you have made.
I would suggest you think for yourself and view the numbers on the FBI site, but we both know you will only confuse yourself even more.

How so? You keep making claims but you always come up short on proving them? Of course the data in the Color of Crime report was 2005 and I'm providing 2013. Either way they both demonstrate that blacks are far more violent than whites. Once again, see the video above.