And it begins: "A Call for American Renewal"

[Mac1958]

Anthony Scaramucci and Bill O'Reilly, too.

Their letter reads like a moderate Democrat's. It's decent sounding, doesn't get into hair pulling, is very positive in its approach. No racism, no populism, no mention of ANY hot button issues. None.

It will be interesting, because it seems targeted toward Independents, Centrists and Democrats disgusted with progressives. Everyone, in fact, except the GOP.

How do the rightwingers here feel about the principles, separate from their avowal to flush Trumpism? If you can be that objective.

It does appear that they're going for a wide swath, at people who have had enough from both ends.

This kind of thing has been tried before. We'll see if it has legs of any kind.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

No it doesn't. I generally post on things that help people. I've not promoted the politics of either party.

"Help" people?


Pol POT helped people, too, from his own perspective.

 

[OldLady]

Anthony Scaramucci and Bill O'Reilly, too.

Their letter reads like a moderate Democrat's. It's decent sounding, doesn't get into hair pulling, is very positive in its approach. No racism, no populism, no mention of ANY hot button issues. None.

It will be interesting, because it seems targeted toward Independents, Centrists and Democrats disgusted with progressives. Everyone, in fact, except the GOP.

How do the rightwingers here feel about the principles, separate from their avowal to flush Trumpism? If you can be that objective.

I will flush anything and everything that does not promote liberty. It's really that simple.

Each and every policy decision should FIRST start with the goal of promoting and protecting the individual liberty of American's first, all else being secondary, including the liberty of the rest of the world. Protect us first. That's the job. It's not complicated.

Do you see anything in those principles that goes against your Me First stance?

 

[OldLady]

Anthony Scaramucci and Bill O'Reilly, too.

Their letter reads like a moderate Democrat's. It's decent sounding, doesn't get into hair pulling, is very positive in its approach. No racism, no populism, no mention of ANY hot button issues. None.

It will be interesting, because it seems targeted toward Independents, Centrists and Democrats disgusted with progressives. Everyone, in fact, except the GOP.

How do the rightwingers here feel about the principles, separate from their avowal to flush Trumpism? If you can be that objective.

It does appear that they're going for a wide swath, at people who have had enough from both ends.

This kind of thing has been tried before. We'll see if it has legs of any kind.

When has it been tried before?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Republican voters have been disenfranchised for many decades, Reagan said all kinds of wonderful things but he didn't so squat for the middle class, and every year since then the middle class has been further ignored while the GOP enriched themselves, defense contractors, oil companies and corporatists. Along comes someone like Trump, who smashed that mold and screams nationalism to his supporters, in the same way as other European leaders many generations ago. Find an enemy to blame for your problems (the media, Democrats, immigrants, regulations, etc.) and say that I am here to represent you, not wage war in other countries, not let black and brown people across the border, and I'm going to bring JOBS back to America.

Boom, you have these folks on a leash, and they'll never leave you, even if you're a pathological liar like Trump, who slashed taxes for the wealthiest Americans, cultivated a cult of fealty where only those loyal to him were allowed, job qualifications were inherently useless, and only getting the praise of his unthinking, gullible base was truly important to him. No jobs were brought back, even thought a media campaign was created to make it seem like they were. Guess what? You end up right back where you started with the classic Republican Party: The middle class, and those who vote for Republicans, were pandered to, and ignored, the focus of Trumpism was still centered on the wealthiest Americans, only the language changed.

and every year since then the middle class has been further ignored while the GOP enriched themselves, defense contractors, oil companies and corporatists.
so were do the democrats fit in here?....

 

[Mac1958]

Anthony Scaramucci and Bill O'Reilly, too.

Their letter reads like a moderate Democrat's. It's decent sounding, doesn't get into hair pulling, is very positive in its approach. No racism, no populism, no mention of ANY hot button issues. None.

It will be interesting, because it seems targeted toward Independents, Centrists and Democrats disgusted with progressives. Everyone, in fact, except the GOP.

How do the rightwingers here feel about the principles, separate from their avowal to flush Trumpism? If you can be that objective.

It does appear that they're going for a wide swath, at people who have had enough from both ends.

This kind of thing has been tried before. We'll see if it has legs of any kind.

When has it been tried before?

There was a group called "Third Way" that tried to get the middle, we had Evan McMullen running as a "conservative independent" or something, both in 2016. Both went nowhere. I've seen a couple of others. This one seems to have a little more strength, but I don't know how they get traction.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Anthony Scaramucci and Bill O'Reilly, too.

Their letter reads like a moderate Democrat's. It's decent sounding, doesn't get into hair pulling, is very positive in its approach. No racism, no populism, no mention of ANY hot button issues. None.

It will be interesting, because it seems targeted toward Independents, Centrists and Democrats disgusted with progressives. Everyone, in fact, except the GOP.

How do the rightwingers here feel about the principles, separate from their avowal to flush Trumpism? If you can be that objective.

I will flush anything and everything that does not promote liberty. It's really that simple.

Each and every policy decision should FIRST start with the goal of promoting and protecting the individual liberty of American's first, all else being secondary, including the liberty of the rest of the world. Protect us first. That's the job. It's not complicated.

Do you see anything in those principles that goes against your Me First stance?

NOTHING AT ALL!!!

What is the job of the U.S. government? To protect Chinese people in China? To protect Siberians in Siberia? Africans in Africa?

WHAT IS THEIR FUCKING JOB? TO WHOM DO THEY OWE A DUTY?

 

[Correll]

I've been hearing that non-Trumpy Republicans who have been pushed out of the GQP for being comparatively decent and honest ....

Divisive troll boy.

 

[odanny]

Republican voters have been disenfranchised for many decades, Reagan said all kinds of wonderful things but he didn't so squat for the middle class, and every year since then the middle class has been further ignored while the GOP enriched themselves, defense contractors, oil companies and corporatists. Along comes someone like Trump, who smashed that mold and screams nationalism to his supporters, in the same way as other European leaders many generations ago. Find an enemy to blame for your problems (the media, Democrats, immigrants, regulations, etc.) and say that I am here to represent you, not wage war in other countries, not let black and brown people across the border, and I'm going to bring JOBS back to America.

Boom, you have these folks on a leash, and they'll never leave you, even if you're a pathological liar like Trump, who slashed taxes for the wealthiest Americans, cultivated a cult of fealty where only those loyal to him were allowed, job qualifications were inherently useless, and only getting the praise of his unthinking, gullible base was truly important to him. No jobs were brought back, even thought a media campaign was created to make it seem like they were. Guess what? You end up right back where you started with the classic Republican Party: The middle class, and those who vote for Republicans, were pandered to, and ignored, the focus of Trumpism was still centered on the wealthiest Americans, only the language changed.

and every year since then the middle class has been further ignored while the GOP enriched themselves, defense contractors, oil companies and corporatists.
so were do the democrats fit in here?....

Usually standing around feebly, trying to figure out how to pass meaningful legislation in the face of GOP obstruction in the Senate, and failing miserably.

 

[22lcidw]

Republican voters have been disenfranchised for many decades, Reagan said all kinds of wonderful things but he didn't so squat for the middle class, and every year since then the middle class has been further ignored while the GOP enriched themselves, defense contractors, oil companies and corporatists. Along comes someone like Trump, who smashed that mold and screams nationalism to his supporters, in the same way as other European leaders many generations ago. Find an enemy to blame for your problems (the media, Democrats, immigrants, regulations, etc.) and say that I am here to represent you, not wage war in other countries, not let black and brown people across the border, and I'm going to bring JOBS back to America.

Boom, you have these folks on a leash, and they'll never leave you, even if you're a pathological liar like Trump, who slashed taxes for the wealthiest Americans, cultivated a cult of fealty where only those loyal to him were allowed, job qualifications were inherently useless, and only getting the praise of his unthinking, gullible base was truly important to him. No jobs were brought back, even thought a media campaign was created to make it seem like they were. Guess what? You end up right back where you started with the classic Republican Party: The middle class, and those who vote for Republicans, were pandered to, and ignored, the focus of Trumpism was still centered on the wealthiest Americans, only the language changed.

A 23% reduction in federal taxes and indexing of wages for inflation as pertaining to doing taxes was outstanding in concert with reducing the number of tax levels. People were suffering.

 

[marvin martian]

the establishment political class strikes back I see....

I don't see how this gets much traction. From what I've seen, they're stuck between "we have no choice but to start a third party" and "we have to work from inside the GOP". Hopefully it will at least be entertaining.

Watching you suck off RINOs and their billionaire masters has been VERY entertaining, indeed! Please don't stop.

 

[BlackSand]

I've been hearing that non-Trumpy Republicans who have been pushed out of the GQP for being comparatively decent and honest were planning on some kind of (a) third party or (b) movement to save the party from what has now happened.

Long shot at best, but at least they appear to be somewhat organized. Maybe they can make some kind of progress here or there. So here it is:

A Call for American Renewal

It’s time to restore a “common-sense coalition” in our political system, and we are committed to making that a reality.

www.acallforamericanrenewal.com

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Save you the trouble Sweetie ...

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[BlackSand]

Their letter reads like a moderate Democrat's. It's decent sounding, doesn't get into hair pulling, is very positive in its approach. No racism, no populism, no mention of ANY hot button issues. None.

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You could have just said "Do Nothing Establishment Republicans" ...

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

the establishment political class strikes back I see....

I don't see how this gets much traction. From what I've seen, they're stuck between "we have no choice but to start a third party" and "we have to work from inside the GOP". Hopefully it will at least be entertaining.

Watching you suck off RINOs and their billionaire masters has been VERY entertaining, indeed! Please don't stop.

Mac probably has some high-level investments in the military/industrial complex and he lost a lot of money when Trump took over and tried to dismantle the global money-wasting dog and pony show. That was the whole point of the Never-Trump movement.

 

[9thIDdoc]

I've been hearing that non-Trumpy Republicans who have been pushed out of the GQP for being comparatively decent and honest were planning on some kind of (a) third party or (b) movement to save the party from what has now happened.

Long shot at best, but at least they appear to be somewhat organized. Maybe they can make some kind of progress here or there. So here it is:

A Call for American Renewal

It’s time to restore a “common-sense coalition” in our political system, and we are committed to making that a reality.

www.acallforamericanrenewal.com

Lots of fine talk without mention of what exactly they think needs doing or how it needs to be done. Typical political smoke and mirrors as per usual.

 

[OldLady]

Their letter reads like a moderate Democrat's. It's decent sounding, doesn't get into hair pulling, is very positive in its approach. No racism, no populism, no mention of ANY hot button issues. None.

.

You could have just said "Do Nothing Establishment Republicans" ...

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Well, they haven't started saying yet what they want to DO. What the current Republicans have been DOING -- lying about the election, burning anti-Donalds at the stake -- isn't much to write home about either.

 

[OldLady]

I've been hearing that non-Trumpy Republicans who have been pushed out of the GQP for being comparatively decent and honest were planning on some kind of (a) third party or (b) movement to save the party from what has now happened.

Long shot at best, but at least they appear to be somewhat organized. Maybe they can make some kind of progress here or there. So here it is:

A Call for American Renewal

It’s time to restore a “common-sense coalition” in our political system, and we are committed to making that a reality.

www.acallforamericanrenewal.com

Lots of fine talk without mention of what exactly they think needs doing or how it needs to be done. Typical political smoke and mirrors as per usual.

So far, agreed. I think they would also need a leader? Not Anthony Scaramucci.

 

[jc456]

The more I read about politics the less I am interested......................

29000 posts in just three years says that is not true.

No it doesn't. I generally post on things that help people. I've not promoted the politics of either party.

again, Trump is not GOP, he is Trump. The GOP have no balls

 

[BlackSand]

Their letter reads like a moderate Democrat's. It's decent sounding, doesn't get into hair pulling, is very positive in its approach. No racism, no populism, no mention of ANY hot button issues. None.

.

You could have just said "Do Nothing Establishment Republicans" ...

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Well, they haven't started saying yet what they want to DO. What the current Republicans have been DOING -- lying about the election, burning anti-Donalds at the stake -- isn't much to write home about either.

.

I know they haven't stated what they want to do.

That's also why Representative Cheney lost her job as Republican House Conference Chair.
She was more interested in chasing cameras and crying about the Former President than doing her job as Conference Chair.

We ain't sending our Representatives to Congress just to play word games with your silly asses ...

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[jc456]

lying about the election, burning anti-Donalds at the stake -

lying? where? projecting again huh?