Americas Rape Culture

[Correll]

I'm kind of curious as to what people mean when they say a rape "culture?" I don't believe we have any such "culture" here in America. People who rape get caught and are prosecuted here in America.

I would think a lot of places in the Middle East would be considered more of a "rape culture" where it is an accepted form of "punishment" for a woman, or where it is NOT illegal for a husband to rape his wife.

I wish people would think things through before they made stupid comments . . . PLEASE.

Its all part of the attempted broadening of the work Rape to include things like drunken sloppy hookups, and girls who got duped into having sex with a guy once or a few times.

Basically its the pendulum swinging back to the old extreme, opposite the sexual revolution of the 60's and 70's.

It's more than that, it has political implications too.

By marginalizing American culture, especially Traditional American culture, they undermine resistance to advancing their Leftist Agenda.

After all, why stand up to defend a Rape Culture?

 

[martybegan]

I'm kind of curious as to what people mean when they say a rape "culture?" I don't believe we have any such "culture" here in America. People who rape get caught and are prosecuted here in America.

I would think a lot of places in the Middle East would be considered more of a "rape culture" where it is an accepted form of "punishment" for a woman, or where it is NOT illegal for a husband to rape his wife.

I wish people would think things through before they made stupid comments . . . PLEASE.

Its all part of the attempted broadening of the work Rape to include things like drunken sloppy hookups, and girls who got duped into having sex with a guy once or a few times.

Basically its the pendulum swinging back to the old extreme, opposite the sexual revolution of the 60's and 70's.

It's more than that, it has political implications too.

By marginalizing American culture, especially Traditional American culture, they undermine resistance to advancing their Leftist Agenda.

After all, why stand up to defend a Rape Culture?

For some it may be that motive, but for most it becomes an excuse. "It wasn't MY fault I got drunk and had sex with that guy, HE was responsible".

 

[Tommy Tainant]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

 

[martybegan]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Simple response from a simple person.

Guy uses force, Rape
Guy drugs a girl to get laid, Rape
Guy has sex with someone unconscious, Rape

Situations where one or both parties is hammered but conscious, or situations where a guy leads a girl on for sex, only to ignore her afterwards is not Rape, its consensual sex with post-coital regrets.

 

[westwall]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Aaaaaand to summarize you, you take statements out of context and distort peoples positions. Typical progressive response when you don't like the fact that your meme is being destroyed.

The facts are there is no such thing as an "American Rape Culture" any more than there is a Welsh, or UK "rape culture". There are simply assholes (of both sexes) who rape for their sick enjoyment, and then there are the bottom feeders, such as yourself, who attempt to make political hash out of purely criminal behavior. You are almost as disgusting as the vermin who engage in rape.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Aaaaaand to summarize you, you take statements out of context and distort peoples positions. Typical progressive response when you don't like the fact that your meme is being destroyed.

The facts are there is no such thing as an "American Rape Culture" any more than there is a Welsh, or UK "rape culture". There are simply assholes (of both sexes) who rape for their sick enjoyment, and then there are the bottom feeders, such as yourself, who attempt to make political hash out of purely criminal behavior. You are almost as disgusting as the vermin who engage in rape.

You re an idiot. The responses on here indicate that there are issues in regards to attitudes to women.
Dress sensible,dont get drunk get in the kitchen. Sick.

 

[martybegan]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Aaaaaand to summarize you, you take statements out of context and distort peoples positions. Typical progressive response when you don't like the fact that your meme is being destroyed.

The facts are there is no such thing as an "American Rape Culture" any more than there is a Welsh, or UK "rape culture". There are simply assholes (of both sexes) who rape for their sick enjoyment, and then there are the bottom feeders, such as yourself, who attempt to make political hash out of purely criminal behavior. You are almost as disgusting as the vermin who engage in rape.

You re an idiot. The responses on here indicate that there are issues in regards to attitudes to women.
Dress sensible,dont get drunk get in the kitchen. Sick.

No, the "attitude" is be responsible for your actions. If you get drunk and have sex, don't go around saying you were raped or assaulted when you suddenly decide you made a poor decision.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Aaaaaand to summarize you, you take statements out of context and distort peoples positions. Typical progressive response when you don't like the fact that your meme is being destroyed.

The facts are there is no such thing as an "American Rape Culture" any more than there is a Welsh, or UK "rape culture". There are simply assholes (of both sexes) who rape for their sick enjoyment, and then there are the bottom feeders, such as yourself, who attempt to make political hash out of purely criminal behavior. You are almost as disgusting as the vermin who engage in rape.

You re an idiot. The responses on here indicate that there are issues in regards to attitudes to women.
Dress sensible,dont get drunk get in the kitchen. Sick.

No, the "attitude" is be responsible for your actions. If you get drunk and have sex, don't go around saying you were raped or assaulted when you suddenly decide you made a poor decision.

What if you were in no position to make a decision ?

 

[martybegan]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Aaaaaand to summarize you, you take statements out of context and distort peoples positions. Typical progressive response when you don't like the fact that your meme is being destroyed.

The facts are there is no such thing as an "American Rape Culture" any more than there is a Welsh, or UK "rape culture". There are simply assholes (of both sexes) who rape for their sick enjoyment, and then there are the bottom feeders, such as yourself, who attempt to make political hash out of purely criminal behavior. You are almost as disgusting as the vermin who engage in rape.

You re an idiot. The responses on here indicate that there are issues in regards to attitudes to women.
Dress sensible,dont get drunk get in the kitchen. Sick.

No, the "attitude" is be responsible for your actions. If you get drunk and have sex, don't go around saying you were raped or assaulted when you suddenly decide you made a poor decision.

What if you were in no position to make a decision ?

You are going to have to define the situation better than that.

 

[westwall]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Aaaaaand to summarize you, you take statements out of context and distort peoples positions. Typical progressive response when you don't like the fact that your meme is being destroyed.

The facts are there is no such thing as an "American Rape Culture" any more than there is a Welsh, or UK "rape culture". There are simply assholes (of both sexes) who rape for their sick enjoyment, and then there are the bottom feeders, such as yourself, who attempt to make political hash out of purely criminal behavior. You are almost as disgusting as the vermin who engage in rape.

You re an idiot. The responses on here indicate that there are issues in regards to attitudes to women.
Dress sensible,dont get drunk get in the kitchen. Sick.

No, the idiot is you, who attempt to politicize a very real CRIMINAL problem, which does nothing to address the very real issues involved. You merely flap your gums and think you are making some profound observation when in fact you are merely engaging in self gratification. You submit nothing that is beneficial, and in fact cause harm by ignoring the very real issues involved. In short you're a typical myopic progressive silly person.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Aaaaaand to summarize you, you take statements out of context and distort peoples positions. Typical progressive response when you don't like the fact that your meme is being destroyed.

The facts are there is no such thing as an "American Rape Culture" any more than there is a Welsh, or UK "rape culture". There are simply assholes (of both sexes) who rape for their sick enjoyment, and then there are the bottom feeders, such as yourself, who attempt to make political hash out of purely criminal behavior. You are almost as disgusting as the vermin who engage in rape.

You re an idiot. The responses on here indicate that there are issues in regards to attitudes to women.
Dress sensible,dont get drunk get in the kitchen. Sick.

No, the idiot is you, who attempt to politicize a very real CRIMINAL problem, which does nothing to address the very real issues involved. You merely flap your gums and think you are making some profound observation when in fact you are merely engaging in self gratification. You submit nothing that is beneficial, and in fact cause harm by ignoring the very real issues involved. In short you're a typical myopic progressive silly person.

Once again you spout crap.the politicisation seems to be coming from the Right who seem to be seeing a "liberal agenda" and "feminist" politicking.
The "very real issues" that you refer to seem to be that men see drunken women as fair game. Its not an American issue or a British issue.Its a male issue. If you choose to engage in the thread rather than just hurl abuse then we can discuss it. However I suggest that you sober up first.

 

[Correll]

I'm kind of curious as to what people mean when they say a rape "culture?" I don't believe we have any such "culture" here in America. People who rape get caught and are prosecuted here in America.

I would think a lot of places in the Middle East would be considered more of a "rape culture" where it is an accepted form of "punishment" for a woman, or where it is NOT illegal for a husband to rape his wife.

I wish people would think things through before they made stupid comments . . . PLEASE.

Its all part of the attempted broadening of the work Rape to include things like drunken sloppy hookups, and girls who got duped into having sex with a guy once or a few times.

Basically its the pendulum swinging back to the old extreme, opposite the sexual revolution of the 60's and 70's.

It's more than that, it has political implications too.

By marginalizing American culture, especially Traditional American culture, they undermine resistance to advancing their Leftist Agenda.

After all, why stand up to defend a Rape Culture?

For some it may be that motive, but for most it becomes an excuse. "It wasn't MY fault I got drunk and had sex with that guy, HE was responsible".

Maybe for the actual girls involved, but Feminists specifically and Liberals in general proved in the 90s, that their concern about Women's right and issues was nothing but a sham.

They had a choice between standing by their feminists principles and advancing the Lib agenda, and they threw feminism under the bus without a second thought.

 

[westwall]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Aaaaaand to summarize you, you take statements out of context and distort peoples positions. Typical progressive response when you don't like the fact that your meme is being destroyed.

The facts are there is no such thing as an "American Rape Culture" any more than there is a Welsh, or UK "rape culture". There are simply assholes (of both sexes) who rape for their sick enjoyment, and then there are the bottom feeders, such as yourself, who attempt to make political hash out of purely criminal behavior. You are almost as disgusting as the vermin who engage in rape.

You re an idiot. The responses on here indicate that there are issues in regards to attitudes to women.
Dress sensible,dont get drunk get in the kitchen. Sick.

No, the idiot is you, who attempt to politicize a very real CRIMINAL problem, which does nothing to address the very real issues involved. You merely flap your gums and think you are making some profound observation when in fact you are merely engaging in self gratification. You submit nothing that is beneficial, and in fact cause harm by ignoring the very real issues involved. In short you're a typical myopic progressive silly person.

Once again you spout crap.the politicisation seems to be coming from the Right who seem to be seeing a "liberal agenda" and "feminist" politicking.
The "very real issues" that you refer to seem to be that men see drunken women as fair game. Its not an American issue or a British issue.Its a male issue. If you choose to engage in the thread rather than just hurl abuse then we can discuss it. However I suggest that you sober up first.

Wrong. We KNOW who these criminals are and you progressive pricks keep making exceptions for these pricks. You claim it's "societies fault" and they are "merely misunderstood", or "were forced to do their horrible crimes because of bad parenting" and a whole host of other bullcrap. The facts are people who rape could make other choices but don't, and when caught, should spend the rest of their lives in prison.

But no, apologist progressive simpletons like you try and make it a political issue and fight for the release of these violent criminals.

No one thinks raping a sleeping woman is "fair game" you twit. That is rape in any book. The issue comes when drunk women, who are still very much awake, engage in sex that they then regret. That is the issue. Moronic assholes like you try to make that the political issue and it isn't. It is a very real problem that truly does need to be addressed, but your gum flapping does nothing to fix that, it merely presents you with yet another opportunity to spout your "I'm superior to you" infantile repartee.

You're pathetic.

 

[Tilly]

To summarise then it looks like its all the girls fault.

What a bizarre take on sexual relationships you have.

Aaaaaand to summarize you, you take statements out of context and distort peoples positions. Typical progressive response when you don't like the fact that your meme is being destroyed.

The facts are there is no such thing as an "American Rape Culture" any more than there is a Welsh, or UK "rape culture". There are simply assholes (of both sexes) who rape for their sick enjoyment, and then there are the bottom feeders, such as yourself, who attempt to make political hash out of purely criminal behavior. You are almost as disgusting as the vermin who engage in rape.

You re an idiot. The responses on here indicate that there are issues in regards to attitudes to women.
Dress sensible,dont get drunk get in the kitchen. Sick.

No, the idiot is you, who attempt to politicize a very real CRIMINAL problem, which does nothing to address the very real issues involved. You merely flap your gums and think you are making some profound observation when in fact you are merely engaging in self gratification. You submit nothing that is beneficial, and in fact cause harm by ignoring the very real issues involved. In short you're a typical myopic progressive silly person.

Once again you spout crap.the politicisation seems to be coming from the Right who seem to be seeing a "liberal agenda" and "feminist" politicking.
The "very real issues" that you refer to seem to be that men see drunken women as fair game. Its not an American issue or a British issue.Its a male issue. If you choose to engage in the thread rather than just hurl abuse then we can discuss it. However I suggest that you sober up first.

Wrong. We KNOW who these criminals are and you progressive pricks keep making exceptions for these pricks. You claim it's "societies fault" and they are "merely misunderstood", or "were forced to do their horrible crimes because of bad parenting" and a whole host of other bullcrap. The facts are people who rape could make other choices but don't, and when caught, should spend the rest of their lives in prison.

But no, apologist progressive simpletons like you try and make it a political issue and fight for the release of these violent criminals.

No one thinks raping a sleeping woman is "fair game" you twit. That is rape in any book. The issue comes when drunk women, who are still very much awake, engage in sex that they then regret. That is the issue. Moronic assholes like you try to make that the political issue and it isn't. It is a very real problem that truly does need to be addressed, but your gum flapping does nothing to fix that, it merely presents you with yet another opportunity to spout your "I'm superior to you" infantile repartee.

You're pathetic.

Tommy is simply expressing his hatred of the US in a new way. He's already done 'America is just the same as Russia', and he's done 'the American gvmnt is no better than isis' and he's declared in no uncertain terms that he believes American uni students should be 'protected from' even hearing left wingers speak on campus, and that they should in fact be banned from doing so. This is simply another way for him to attack a country he utterly despises.

 

[Dhara]

Well at least, as a man, he's concerned about rape and rape culture.

 

[Coyote]

Well at least, as a man, he's concerned about rape and rape culture.

I think it does a real disservice to those in countrires that have serious rape issues to claim America has a rape culture.

 

[Dhara]

Well at least, as a man, he's concerned about rape and rape culture.

I think it does a real disservice to those in countrires that have serious rape issues to claim America has a rape culture.

What countries do you think have "serious rape issues"? Isn't all rape serious?

 

[Dhara]

What is rape culture?

Rape culture is…



…the existence of “Keep Calm and Rape A Lot” t-shirts. They really, seriously exist.

…the media’s constant glossing-over of sexual assault with euphemistic language: “inappropriate behaviour,” “sexual misconduct,” and even plain old “having sex.”

…Facebook’s refusal to pull sadistically graphic images of violence against women (while deeming photos of breastfeeding moms to be objectionable)!

…a beauty website that calls toddlers “effing hot” – even the preschool set can’t escape objectification!

…a magazine editor’s blasé admission that “the women we feature in the magazine are ornamental” and “objectified.”

…major news outlets waxing sympathetic about how two teen rapists’ “promising” lives will be destroyed by a youthful mistake, without once mentioning how the rape might affect the survivor.

…kids who call losing a sports game “getting totally raped.”

…a pizza marketing campaign that makes a joke out of rape.

…a subculture of self-proclaimed “ratters” who hack into women’s computers and steal their photos.

…college women being instructed to vomit or urinate on demand to protect themselves against rape.
What is Rape Culture? | WAVAW | Women Against Violence Against Women

…10,000 untested rape kits collecting dust on a shelf somewhere

 

[MisterBeale]

Well at least, as a man, he's concerned about rape and rape culture.

What on earth makes you think all of us men aren't?

I find it disgusting that he is politicizing such an act that is personal and traumatic. I wonder if he has ever met rape survivors, consoled them, seen what it has done, helped them through the trauma, and seen how it changes lives.

He is using this issue to demonize a nation and a culture he has very little respect for.

I've been in the trenches and worked with the survivors. The way this is being handled and discussed today trivializes an important subject.

I don't think he knows the first thing about real sexual assault.

I once read the creepy words that a famous Canadian artist received in a letter from one of her stalkers, about how he was going to RAPE her. . . .

I would be the one
to hold you down
kiss you so hard
I'll take your breath away
and after, I'd wipe away the tears
just close your eyes dear
Through this world I've stumbled
so many times betrayed
trying to find an honest word to find
the truth enslaved
oh you speak to me in riddles
and you speak to me in rhymes
my body aches to breathe your breath
your words keep me alive
And I would be the one
to hold you down
kiss you so hard
I'll take your breath away
and after, I'd wipe away the tears
just close your eyes dear
Into this night I wander
it's morning that I dread
another day of knowing of
the path I fear to tread
oh into the sea of waking dreams
I follow without pride
nothing stands between us here
and I won't be denied
and I would be the one
to hold you down
kiss you so hard
I'll take your breath away
and after, I'd wipe away the tears
just close your eyes

SHE turned it into a song. He was going to sue her, but he committed suicide instead because he loved her too much to do that to her. . .







Tommy doesn't know shit about sexual assault or women.

 

[MisterBeale]

What is rape culture?

Rape culture is…



…the existence of “Keep Calm and Rape A Lot” t-shirts. They really, seriously exist.

…the media’s constant glossing-over of sexual assault with euphemistic language: “inappropriate behaviour,” “sexual misconduct,” and even plain old “having sex.”

…Facebook’s refusal to pull sadistically graphic images of violence against women (while deeming photos of breastfeeding moms to be objectionable)!

…a beauty website that calls toddlers “effing hot” – even the preschool set can’t escape objectification!

…a magazine editor’s blasé admission that “the women we feature in the magazine are ornamental” and “objectified.”

…major news outlets waxing sympathetic about how two teen rapists’ “promising” lives will be destroyed by a youthful mistake, without once mentioning how the rape might affect the survivor.

…kids who call losing a sports game “getting totally raped.”

…a pizza marketing campaign that makes a joke out of rape.

…a subculture of self-proclaimed “ratters” who hack into women’s computers and steal their photos.

…college women being instructed to vomit or urinate on demand to protect themselves against rape.
What is Rape Culture? | WAVAW | Women Against Violence Against Women

…10,000 untested rape kits collecting dust on a shelf somewhere

Wow, tons of great info. I spend the morning reading. You really know this topic. Thanks for not making it political.

I was really interested in the Steubenville case. Poor girl.
What About the Victim: The Steubenville Rape Victim’s Recovery | TIME.com