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America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.
 
America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.
HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.
 
America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.

1600, is hardly a mass interment of Italian-Americans. There were millions of Italians living in the US at that time. More than
likely those 1600 had been members of some Italian-American group opposed to the US. Similar to the American Nazi Party.

I'm a second-generation Italian-American. My Father served with the Marines in the Pacific. My Uncle, his Brother was killed at
Normandy. I have never heard of any discrimination against Italian-American in WWII, and all of my ancestors on both sides of
the family immigrated from Italy. With respects, your late Grandfather was full of shit.
 
America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.
HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.


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Funny, I was being taught history in the second grade to include Marco Polo, Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, DeSoto, etc. During intermediate schooling we learned about the Revolution, both the American and French, we even learned to sing the Marseillaise. In High school Social Studies taught us more of the 17th,18th and 19th century American history. And yes there was a course in my College freshman history class named 19th and 20th Century history... BTW that was part of a Bachelor of Science curriculum in College. I must have gone to different Public Schools than you did, or it was probably before you were a thought in your parents minds.
 
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America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.
HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.


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Funny, I was being taught history in the second grade to include Marco Polo, Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, DeSoto, etc. During intermediate schooling we learned about the Revolution, both the American and French, we even learned to sing the Marseillaise. In High school Social Studies taught us more of the 17th,18th and 19th century American history. And yes there was a course in my College freshman history class named 19th and 20th Century history... BTW that was part of a Bachelor of Science curriculum in College. I must have gone to different Public Schools than you did, or it was probably before you were a thought in your parents minds.
I was taught history throughout elementary and HS but it was still very generalized. So far you haven't disproved anything I posted, simply confirmed it. I'm 65 so yeah I learned a lot of what you did except I took it farther in college............ I happen to know a little bit about what I'm talking about.
Oh and the 19th and 20th Century freshmen courses were still fairly generalized, hell of a lot of information to cover in those two centuries alone, can't cover it in detail in a freshman course.......

Oh and do a simple search online, you'll come up with a lot of information concerning WWII internment. You also have to realize when you start talking history to the vast majority of people their eyes glaze over, they're really just not interested.
 
America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.


HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.

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I never claimed anything about my family in this posting. I am a first generation Italian American and I learned about the internments of Italian America and Germans in the late 1940's by reading the newspapers. BTW My father was in the invasion of Normandy too, My cousin fought at Guadalcanal, New Britain, New Guinea and Peleliu. He never made it to Okinawa..... Other relatives were part of the glider invasion on D-Day, and another was part of the Coast Guard protecting convoys in the Atlantic. .
 
America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.


HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.

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I never claimed anything about my family in this posting. I am a first generation Italian American and I learned about the internments of Italian America and Germans in the late 1940's by reading the newspapers. BTW My father was in the invasion of Normandy too, My cousin fought at Guadalcanal, New Britain, New Guinea and Peleliu. He never made it to Okinawa..... Other relatives were part of the glider invasion on D-Day, and another was part of the Coast Guard protecting convoys in the Atlantic. .
I never said anything about your family.
 
America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.
HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.


~~~~~~
Funny, I was being taught history in the second grade to include Marco Polo, Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, DeSoto, etc. During intermediate schooling we learned about the Revolution, both the American and French, we even learned to sing the Marseillaise. In High school Social Studies taught us more of the 17th,18th and 19th century American history. And yes there was a course in my College freshman history class named 19th and 20th Century history... BTW that was part of a Bachelor of Science curriculum in College. I must have gone to different Public Schools than you did, or it was probably before you were a thought in your parents minds.
I was taught history throughout elementary and HS but it was still very generalized. So far you haven't disproved anything I posted, simply confirmed it. I'm 65 so yeah I learned a lot of what you did except I took it farther in college............ I happen to know a little bit about what I'm talking about.
Oh and the 19th and 20th Century freshmen courses were still fairly generalized, hell of a lot of information to cover in those two centuries alone, can't cover it in detail in a freshman course.......

Oh and do a simple search online, you'll come up with a lot of information concerning WWII internment. You also have to realize when you start talking history to the vast majority of people their eyes glaze over, they're really just not interested.


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Contrary to your statement as follows: "With respects, your late Grandfather was full of shit".
Leave my grandfather out of this.
Hmm..., I guess education curriculums changed between the time I was educated and your education since I'm 20 years older than you. I was reading the newspaper at the age of eight while WWII was in full swing. In fact I remember the interruption of Captain Midnight on WOR-NY AM announcing the death of FDR of a cerebral hemorrhage in April 45 just before the surrender of Germany on May 9th.... BTW, you just affirmed that education drastically changed in 1960's and became dumbed down to the point that even individuals IQ's in the high 70's can now complete college today...
 
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America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.
HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.


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Funny, I was being taught history in the second grade to include Marco Polo, Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, DeSoto, etc. During intermediate schooling we learned about the Revolution, both the American and French, we even learned to sing the Marseillaise. In High school Social Studies taught us more of the 17th,18th and 19th century American history. And yes there was a course in my College freshman history class named 19th and 20th Century history... BTW that was part of a Bachelor of Science curriculum in College. I must have gone to different Public Schools than you did, or it was probably before you were a thought in your parents minds.
I was taught history throughout elementary and HS but it was still very generalized. So far you haven't disproved anything I posted, simply confirmed it. I'm 65 so yeah I learned a lot of what you did except I took it farther in college............ I happen to know a little bit about what I'm talking about.
Oh and the 19th and 20th Century freshmen courses were still fairly generalized, hell of a lot of information to cover in those two centuries alone, can't cover it in detail in a freshman course.......

Oh and do a simple search online, you'll come up with a lot of information concerning WWII internment. You also have to realize when you start talking history to the vast majority of people their eyes glaze over, they're really just not interested.


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Hmm..., I guess education curriculums changed between the time I was educated and your education since I'm 20 years. older than you. I was reading the newspaper at the age of eight while WWII was in full swing. In fact I remember the interruption of Captain Midnight on WOR-NY AM announcing the death of FDR of a cerebral hemorrhage in April 45 just before the surrender of Germany on May 8th....
Yeah they did change, we know 1000 times more about history than they did when you went to school, and again 1000 times more today than when I went to school. People write their dissertations often on one event in history, it can take decades to study certain eras, some people have dedicated their lives to studying WW II alone. I knew about the all internment camps because I studied WWII for at least a decade on my own (not full time mind you).
You talk about age, in elementary and HS I was taught about a myriad of subjects we now know to be false or at least highly questionable in both science and history. The use of modern technology and modern methods has vastly expanded our knowledge and wiped away some long cherished ideas/explanations.
If you get into a detailed study of WW II then yes you will learn about all the internment camps not just the Japanese ones. Was there some racism involved? Of course there was, was it the reason for tossing people in internment camps? Yes and no. Is it not taught in general HS and college courses because of the "Democrat's racism"? You're grasping at partisan straws to build a strawman. Good luck with that.
 
America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.
HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.
You have only so many hours of classes in a day, in high school and in those hours, you are expected to learn the basics of various subjects. As such, you can only be given a basic idea of both US and world history. To expect that much more history should be included in the curriculum would mean the necessity of adding more length to the time in high school. In the K-12 years of school, you get basic arithmetic, introduction to algebra, geometry and trigonometry and pre-calculus. If the student wants more, that's what college is for, which gives additional levels of calculus. In short, there isn't enough time to give the K-12 students all that would leave them with a thorough knowledge of any given subject.
As for our nations interment camps I can only recall that we had Japanese Interment camps, which were wrong. As for POW Interment Camps, we always strode to follow the Geneva convention and there was only one instance where a POW was shot after repeatedly refusing to obey orders.
 
Yes, they were horrible torture pits. I read that some days they didn't have enough ice cream to go around, and some people even had to do their own laundry. The suffering and death in those hellholes was massive. People who have such a problem with the U.S.'s past should leave on the first planes out, and go somewhere with much better human rights records, like Somalia or Red China.

Flee this horror chamber immediately!
 
There were plenty of Republicans and anti-Roosevelt Democrats around to stop this alleged horror. Any evidence any of them lifted a finger to oppose it? Nah.

The fact is nobody had the time to coddle traitors and assorted Fascist movement members, and many of them were not citizens, anyway, and many were here illegally. Those camps also held Germans and Italians and Japanese arrested in South America.
 
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I never claimed anything about my family in this posting. I am a first generation Italian American and I learned about the internments of Italian America and Germans in the late 1940's by reading the newspapers. BTW My father was in the invasion of Normandy too, My cousin fought at Guadalcanal, New Britain, New Guinea and Peleliu. He never made it to Okinawa..... Other relatives were part of the glider invasion on D-Day, and another was part of the Coast Guard protecting convoys in the Atlantic. .

So why are you here sniveling over some stupid commie narrative currently popular with right wing dumbasses being fed by some false flag hacks hoping to make them look like morons?
 
America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps


Tremoglie: America’s Forgotten WWII Internment Camps - Broad + Liberty
March 5, 2020 ~~ By Chris Tremoglie
The Philadelphia metropolitan area has a rather large Italian population. Yet despite this, the majority appear unfamiliar with the history of their ancestors in the United States. Such is the case of the forgotten internment camps of Italians during World War II.
Years ago, while working on a history project in middle school, my grandfather (long since deceased) told me a story about events that occurred during World War II that the majority are not familiar with. His father, who worked at a Stetson Hat factory that was once located in Kensington, had immigrated to the country from Sicily. After Pearl Harbor was bombed, his status in the United States changed; in the blink of an eye, he went from hard-working Italian immigrant to “enemy alien” to an internment camp.
February 19, 1942 is a date that many think should live in infamy. It is the date President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066. It is this Executive Order that established internment camps during World War II – a phenomenon that many today retroactively cite as an example of the government’s racism.
~~ snip ~~
As Salvatore LaGumina described in In Search of Heroes: Italian Americans in World War II, Italians were viewed as “a potentially subversive population in the United States.” As such, by January 1942, at least 600,000 Italians and Italian Americans, among them who were legal residents and American citizens, were classified as “enemy aliens.”
Moreover, about 1,600 Italian citizens — among them my great-grandfather — were put into internment camps in Missoula, Montana and Ellis Island. Many of them were American-born children. In addition to Germans, people of Czech, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian descent were also interned.


Comment:
Rather than point to singular horror stories perpetrated by Democrat president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we'll discuss the racism of the time... Whether it was segregation of Afro-Americans, or the internment of ethic groups like Japanese, Italians etc... Democrats perpetrated these racist acts without blinking of eyes.
BTW, what happened in 1942 wasn't done because someone just thought it up, Woodrow Wilson also interned up to a quarter million of German and Austro-Hungarian descent.
Strangely this is never taught as part of American history to High School and even College students. You have to wonder why? Could it be to hide the sins of the Democrats just as they hide their roll in the Civil War, the creation of the KKK and their racist past of lynching blacks, Catholics and Jews.
HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.


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Funny, I was being taught history in the second grade to include Marco Polo, Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, DeSoto, etc. During intermediate schooling we learned about the Revolution, both the American and French, we even learned to sing the Marseillaise. In High school Social Studies taught us more of the 17th,18th and 19th century American history. And yes there was a course in my College freshman history class named 19th and 20th Century history... BTW that was part of a Bachelor of Science curriculum in College. I must have gone to different Public Schools than you did, or it was probably before you were a thought in your parents minds.
I was taught history throughout elementary and HS but it was still very generalized. So far you haven't disproved anything I posted, simply confirmed it. I'm 65 so yeah I learned a lot of what you did except I took it farther in college............ I happen to know a little bit about what I'm talking about.
Oh and the 19th and 20th Century freshmen courses were still fairly generalized, hell of a lot of information to cover in those two centuries alone, can't cover it in detail in a freshman course.......

Oh and do a simple search online, you'll come up with a lot of information concerning WWII internment. You also have to realize when you start talking history to the vast majority of people their eyes glaze over, they're really just not interested.


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Hmm..., I guess education curriculums changed between the time I was educated and your education since I'm 20 years. older than you. I was reading the newspaper at the age of eight while WWII was in full swing. In fact I remember the interruption of Captain Midnight on WOR-NY AM announcing the death of FDR of a cerebral hemorrhage in April 45 just before the surrender of Germany on May 8th....
Yeah they did change, we know 1000 times more about history than they did when you went to school, and again 1000 times more today than when I went to school. People write their dissertations often on one event in history, it can take decades to study certain eras, some people have dedicated their lives to studying WW II alone. I knew about the all internment camps because I studied WWII for at least a decade on my own (not full time mind you).
You talk about age, in elementary and HS I was taught about a myriad of subjects we now know to be false or at least highly questionable in both science and history. The use of modern technology and modern methods has vastly expanded our knowledge and wiped away some long cherished ideas/explanations.
If you get into a detailed study of WW II then yes you will learn about all the internment camps not just the Japanese ones. Was there some racism involved? Of course there was, was it the reason for tossing people in internment camps? Yes and no. Is it not taught in general HS and college courses because of the "Democrat's racism"? You're grasping at partisan straws to build a strawman. Good luck with that.
racism was a reason for internment camps? please explain and prove
 
HS history is a limited generalized view of history, first year college history (the most taken courses) are somewhat more detailed, generalized views of history. It's not until one starts taking sophomore history (and beyond) is more highly detailed history taught and usually that's where a history major starts specializing in areas of history. Masters studies are much more specialized say someone specifically studying WW II or our colonial period, etc.
So why is it not taught? It is but only post sophomore, the vast majority of college students never get beyond freshmen history, they're not history majors.
To make something political out of it is beyond stupid.


~~~~~~
Funny, I was being taught history in the second grade to include Marco Polo, Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, DeSoto, etc. During intermediate schooling we learned about the Revolution, both the American and French, we even learned to sing the Marseillaise. In High school Social Studies taught us more of the 17th,18th and 19th century American history. And yes there was a course in my College freshman history class named 19th and 20th Century history... BTW that was part of a Bachelor of Science curriculum in College. I must have gone to different Public Schools than you did, or it was probably before you were a thought in your parents minds.
I was taught history throughout elementary and HS but it was still very generalized. So far you haven't disproved anything I posted, simply confirmed it. I'm 65 so yeah I learned a lot of what you did except I took it farther in college............ I happen to know a little bit about what I'm talking about.
Oh and the 19th and 20th Century freshmen courses were still fairly generalized, hell of a lot of information to cover in those two centuries alone, can't cover it in detail in a freshman course.......

Oh and do a simple search online, you'll come up with a lot of information concerning WWII internment. You also have to realize when you start talking history to the vast majority of people their eyes glaze over, they're really just not interested.


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Hmm..., I guess education curriculums changed between the time I was educated and your education since I'm 20 years. older than you. I was reading the newspaper at the age of eight while WWII was in full swing. In fact I remember the interruption of Captain Midnight on WOR-NY AM announcing the death of FDR of a cerebral hemorrhage in April 45 just before the surrender of Germany on May 8th....
Yeah they did change, we know 1000 times more about history than they did when you went to school, and again 1000 times more today than when I went to school. People write their dissertations often on one event in history, it can take decades to study certain eras, some people have dedicated their lives to studying WW II alone. I knew about the all internment camps because I studied WWII for at least a decade on my own (not full time mind you).
You talk about age, in elementary and HS I was taught about a myriad of subjects we now know to be false or at least highly questionable in both science and history. The use of modern technology and modern methods has vastly expanded our knowledge and wiped away some long cherished ideas/explanations.
If you get into a detailed study of WW II then yes you will learn about all the internment camps not just the Japanese ones. Was there some racism involved? Of course there was, was it the reason for tossing people in internment camps? Yes and no. Is it not taught in general HS and college courses because of the "Democrat's racism"? You're grasping at partisan straws to build a strawman. Good luck with that.
racism was a reason for internment camps? please explain and prove


Concentration camps.
 
There were plenty of Republicans and anti-Roosevelt Democrats around to stop this alleged horror. Any evidence any of them lifted a finger to oppose it? ....

Yes. Google Ralph Carr and get some education.
 
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Funny, I was being taught history in the second grade to include Marco Polo, Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, DeSoto, etc. During intermediate schooling we learned about the Revolution, both the American and French, we even learned to sing the Marseillaise. In High school Social Studies taught us more of the 17th,18th and 19th century American history. And yes there was a course in my College freshman history class named 19th and 20th Century history... BTW that was part of a Bachelor of Science curriculum in College. I must have gone to different Public Schools than you did, or it was probably before you were a thought in your parents minds.
I was taught history throughout elementary and HS but it was still very generalized. So far you haven't disproved anything I posted, simply confirmed it. I'm 65 so yeah I learned a lot of what you did except I took it farther in college............ I happen to know a little bit about what I'm talking about.
Oh and the 19th and 20th Century freshmen courses were still fairly generalized, hell of a lot of information to cover in those two centuries alone, can't cover it in detail in a freshman course.......

Oh and do a simple search online, you'll come up with a lot of information concerning WWII internment. You also have to realize when you start talking history to the vast majority of people their eyes glaze over, they're really just not interested.


~~~~~~
Hmm..., I guess education curriculums changed between the time I was educated and your education since I'm 20 years. older than you. I was reading the newspaper at the age of eight while WWII was in full swing. In fact I remember the interruption of Captain Midnight on WOR-NY AM announcing the death of FDR of a cerebral hemorrhage in April 45 just before the surrender of Germany on May 8th....
Yeah they did change, we know 1000 times more about history than they did when you went to school, and again 1000 times more today than when I went to school. People write their dissertations often on one event in history, it can take decades to study certain eras, some people have dedicated their lives to studying WW II alone. I knew about the all internment camps because I studied WWII for at least a decade on my own (not full time mind you).
You talk about age, in elementary and HS I was taught about a myriad of subjects we now know to be false or at least highly questionable in both science and history. The use of modern technology and modern methods has vastly expanded our knowledge and wiped away some long cherished ideas/explanations.
If you get into a detailed study of WW II then yes you will learn about all the internment camps not just the Japanese ones. Was there some racism involved? Of course there was, was it the reason for tossing people in internment camps? Yes and no. Is it not taught in general HS and college courses because of the "Democrat's racism"? You're grasping at partisan straws to build a strawman. Good luck with that.
racism was a reason for internment camps? please explain and prove


Concentration camps.
that is some explanation hahhahahahahhaahahah
..... besides, the R word really means nothing now, since it's been over used and mostly used for dumbshit
 
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Funny, I was being taught history in the second grade to include Marco Polo, Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, DeSoto, etc. During intermediate schooling we learned about the Revolution, both the American and French, we even learned to sing the Marseillaise. In High school Social Studies taught us more of the 17th,18th and 19th century American history. And yes there was a course in my College freshman history class named 19th and 20th Century history... BTW that was part of a Bachelor of Science curriculum in College. I must have gone to different Public Schools than you did, or it was probably before you were a thought in your parents minds.
I was taught history throughout elementary and HS but it was still very generalized. So far you haven't disproved anything I posted, simply confirmed it. I'm 65 so yeah I learned a lot of what you did except I took it farther in college............ I happen to know a little bit about what I'm talking about.
Oh and the 19th and 20th Century freshmen courses were still fairly generalized, hell of a lot of information to cover in those two centuries alone, can't cover it in detail in a freshman course.......

Oh and do a simple search online, you'll come up with a lot of information concerning WWII internment. You also have to realize when you start talking history to the vast majority of people their eyes glaze over, they're really just not interested.


~~~~~~
Hmm..., I guess education curriculums changed between the time I was educated and your education since I'm 20 years. older than you. I was reading the newspaper at the age of eight while WWII was in full swing. In fact I remember the interruption of Captain Midnight on WOR-NY AM announcing the death of FDR of a cerebral hemorrhage in April 45 just before the surrender of Germany on May 8th....
Yeah they did change, we know 1000 times more about history than they did when you went to school, and again 1000 times more today than when I went to school. People write their dissertations often on one event in history, it can take decades to study certain eras, some people have dedicated their lives to studying WW II alone. I knew about the all internment camps because I studied WWII for at least a decade on my own (not full time mind you).
You talk about age, in elementary and HS I was taught about a myriad of subjects we now know to be false or at least highly questionable in both science and history. The use of modern technology and modern methods has vastly expanded our knowledge and wiped away some long cherished ideas/explanations.
If you get into a detailed study of WW II then yes you will learn about all the internment camps not just the Japanese ones. Was there some racism involved? Of course there was, was it the reason for tossing people in internment camps? Yes and no. Is it not taught in general HS and college courses because of the "Democrat's racism"? You're grasping at partisan straws to build a strawman. Good luck with that.
racism was a reason for internment camps? please explain and prove


Concentration camps.
we are talking about internment camps
 
I was taught history throughout elementary and HS but it was still very generalized. So far you haven't disproved anything I posted, simply confirmed it. I'm 65 so yeah I learned a lot of what you did except I took it farther in college............ I happen to know a little bit about what I'm talking about.
Oh and the 19th and 20th Century freshmen courses were still fairly generalized, hell of a lot of information to cover in those two centuries alone, can't cover it in detail in a freshman course.......

Oh and do a simple search online, you'll come up with a lot of information concerning WWII internment. You also have to realize when you start talking history to the vast majority of people their eyes glaze over, they're really just not interested.


~~~~~~
Hmm..., I guess education curriculums changed between the time I was educated and your education since I'm 20 years. older than you. I was reading the newspaper at the age of eight while WWII was in full swing. In fact I remember the interruption of Captain Midnight on WOR-NY AM announcing the death of FDR of a cerebral hemorrhage in April 45 just before the surrender of Germany on May 8th....
Yeah they did change, we know 1000 times more about history than they did when you went to school, and again 1000 times more today than when I went to school. People write their dissertations often on one event in history, it can take decades to study certain eras, some people have dedicated their lives to studying WW II alone. I knew about the all internment camps because I studied WWII for at least a decade on my own (not full time mind you).
You talk about age, in elementary and HS I was taught about a myriad of subjects we now know to be false or at least highly questionable in both science and history. The use of modern technology and modern methods has vastly expanded our knowledge and wiped away some long cherished ideas/explanations.
If you get into a detailed study of WW II then yes you will learn about all the internment camps not just the Japanese ones. Was there some racism involved? Of course there was, was it the reason for tossing people in internment camps? Yes and no. Is it not taught in general HS and college courses because of the "Democrat's racism"? You're grasping at partisan straws to build a strawman. Good luck with that.
racism was a reason for internment camps? please explain and prove


Concentration camps.
that is some explanation hahhahahahahhaahahah
..... besides, the R word really means nothing now, since it's been over used and mostly used for dumbshit

Do you doubt that fdr was a racist POS?
 

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