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sentenced to death in Texas for being pregnant

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Over the course of six hours on June 11, 2023, Porsha Ngumezi had bled so much in the emergency department at Houston Methodist Sugar Land that she’d needed two transfusions.​

Third woman dies under Texas’ abortion ban as doctors use riskier miscarriage treatments

Wrapping his wife in a blanket as she mourned the loss of her pregnancy at 11 weeks, Hope Ngumezi wondered why no obstetrician was coming to see her. Over the course of six hours on June 11, 2023, Porsha Ngumezi had bled so much in the emergency department at Houston Methodist Sugar Land that...

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She was anxious to get home to her young sons, but, according to a nurse’s notes, she was still “passing large clots the size of grapefruit.”​

god damn biblical worldview Republicans for this mother of two whom they killed in Texas with God, damned Republican biblical worldview healthcarelessness!

 

[Meriweather]

It is not right to ask God to go against His own nature. God's way is to turn evil to good, not to double down with more evil.

 

[GMCGeneral]

It is not right to ask God to go against His own nature. God's way is to turn evil to good, not to double down with more evil.

But He also must punish sin. That's a large part of His Holy nature.

 

[Meriweather]

But He also must punish sin. That's a large part of His Holy nature.

It is worth considering that the consequences of sin are already built into that sin. Turning away from that sin (repentance) is a response to God and His ways that allows God to work with us to turn that evil into what is good.

 

[GMCGeneral]

It is worth considering that the consequences of sin are already built into that sin. Turning away from that sin (repentance) is a response to God and His ways that allows God to work with us to turn that evil into what is good.

But most people are either openly hostile to or willfully ignorant of the Gospel. Hence the reason to preach against sin.

 

[Meriweather]

But most people are either openly hostile to or willfully ignorant of the Gospel. Hence the reason to preach against sin.

I hear you, but don't you think better results can come from teaching the inspiring words of the Gospel, and getting people enthusiastic about that instead?

 

[GMCGeneral]

I hear you, but don't you think better results can come from teaching the inspiring words of the Gospel, and getting people enthusiastic about that instead?

Not always. For the Gospel truth to be preached, you need to speak out on sin, judgement AND repentance. Without that, salvation is not possible.

 

[Meriweather]

Not always. For the Gospel truth to be preached, you need to speak out on sin, judgement AND repentance. Without that, salvation is not possible.

Think about this: If you were teaching math, would you be focused on what is going to happen if one does not follow directions, if one does not do what one is assigned to do, how horrible it will be if one fails a test--or worse, the class--or would there be a more positive outcome if one taught the principles of math, how taking notes in class will help them successfully complete homework, and how homework practice promotes better work and understanding on tests which results in good grades and promotion to a higher level of schooling.

Time is better spent on teaching than warnings. When an answer is wrong, isn't it more productive to show where the error was made, how to correct it, and how to overcome it in the future?

Would a better approach in addressing sin, not to harangue over the ultimate consequence, but instead to provide solutions to those who are trapped by a sin(s).

 

[whutTHEYsay]

achyz00729. ABSOLUTE LIE that Trump and Ellis are victims of political religious persecutions is what won the election for Trump.

Look up Ralph Reed. rReec

ding cclxxxix: Actually the American people rendered their verdict on the Democratic Party by rejecting them on every level. dvng 241110 Stbwms00289

NotfooledbyW dccxxix: Actually the fascist leaning white rural turnout in swing states was way up for this election in what was a another trial off with the c heads of the heads of the incumbents stupid American election

Baptist News is part of America’s Christian Heritage giving us a report on Saint Jenna Ellis and her American fascist christian heritage and her felony conviction for Trump in Georgia

Two evangelical Christian leaders indicted along with Trump in Georgia – Baptist News Global

Two evangelical Christian leaders indicted along with Trump in Georgia

NEWS STEVE RABEY | AUGUST 16, 2023

Two evangelical Christian leaders were among the 18 individuals indicted in Georgia Aug. 14 and charged with criminally conspiring with Donald Trump to overturn his 2020 election loss.

Jenna Ellis, an attorney who has worked with many conservative Christian organizations, was indicted on two counts for:

• Making false allegations of election fraud at press conferences and in meetings with legislators of Georgia, Arizona and Michigan.
• Promoting fake elector schemes in multiple states.
• Writing two legal memos that illegally advised Vice President Mike Pence to disregard legitimate Electoral College votes from Georgia and other states.

Jenna Ellis, one of the lead attorneys for the Thomas More Society fighting COVID restrictions in California, also served on former President Donald Trump’s legal team.

Jenna Ellis is a homeschooled attorney who parlayed a thin professional resume, a self-published book and a good TV presence to land prestigious positions with James Dobson and others before joining legal teams at the Trump White House and his 2020 campaign.

She worked closely with Rudy Giuliani and others as part of what she described as a “crack legal team,” but that team was unsuccessful in dozens of court cases in states Trump lost.

On February 10 this year, Ellis signed an agreement that declared a public censure of her as an attorney who has violated ethics standards and is guilty of “dishonesty.”

She was censured for misconduct and confessed to operating from a “selfish motive” while making “misrepresentations” with “a reckless state of mind.” She nearly lost her license to practice law.

Ellis signed an admission that “her conduct … undermined the American public’s confidence in the presidential election, violating her duty of candor to the public” as she promoted false election fraud claims in courtrooms, in state capitols, on Christian media and on Fox News, which recently paid $787 million to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by Dominion Voting Systems.

But she’s still lying

But Ellis still changes her tune when she’s not in a courtroom being censured and continues to claim the election was rigged.

“The Democrats and the Fulton County DA are criminalizing the practice of law,” she said in a post about the indictments on Twitter.

“I am resolved to trust the Lord and I will simply continue to honor, praise and serve him. I deeply appreciate all of my friends who have reached out offering encouragement and support.”

Her Twitter account still features old posts repeating her false claims, including a Nov. 21, 2020, post (“No one really believes this election was honest. It was STOLEN and we all know it.”) and a Dec. 3 post about a Georgia Senate hearing on election fraud that was cited in her indictment:

The VIDEO EVIDENCE being shown in the Georgia Senate Hearing is SHOCKING. Room cleared at 10:30 p.m. 4 people stay behind. Thousands of ballots pulled from under a table in suitcases and scanned. FRAUD!!!

Ties to evangelicals groups

Ellis has worked with a number of Christian groups, none of which have acknowledged or addressed her censure or indictments. Among those:

Cedarville University. Ellis attended the Ohio school before transferring to Colorado State University. It offers a Jenna Lynn Ellis Award, an endowed scholarship for junior or senior students planning to attend law school. The school’s website features an article about Ellis and the scholarship.

Colorado Christian University and Centennial Institute. CCU President Bill Armstrong recognized Ellis’ talent in front of a camera. She served as a CCU professor (CCU originally called her “Dr. Ellis” before correcting the title). Currently she is a Fellow in Constitutional Law and Public Policy at CCU’s Centennial Institute, and she spoke at the Institute’s Western Conservative Summit this summer.

James Dobson Family Institute. Dobson named Ellis director of the Public Policy Center at JDFI, the nonprofit he founded after leaving Focus, and introduced her to Fox News, where she was seen by Trump.

Tim Clinton, a co-host of Dobson’s “Family Talk” radio show, said, “Jenna’s talents are obvious to anyone who has met her in person or seen her on television providing excellent policy and legal analysis.”

Liberty University’s Standing for Freedom Center. Ellis is a Senior Fellow at the center, where she has contributed articles on truth and how to “Defend Freedom from Democratic Party Authoritarians.”

John MacArthur’s Grace Community Church. Ellis was one of two attorneys successfully defending Grace against COVID vaccine mandates on behalf of the Thomas More Society. Grace won payments totaling $800,000 from California and Los Angeles County after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the mandates, and the payments were forwarded to the society.

Ellis appears in “The Essential Church,” a movie about the case produced by Grace.

Summit Ministries. Ellis is an alumnus and faculty at Summit Ministries, the Christian worldview program for youth.

She also appeared in the ministry’s podcast, “The Dr. Jeff Show,” to encourage believers “to stand for God’s truth and expect persecution whenever we follow Jesus Christ.”

Ellis hosts “The Jenna Ellis Show” on the Salem Podcast Network, where she focuses on “the rule of law and the importance of integrity in our elections.”

She has appeared on the Christian Broadcasting Network and condemned government tyranny in a podcast from Concerned Women for America.

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[GMCGeneral]

Think about this: If you were teaching math, would you be focused on what is going to happen if one does not follow directions, if one does not do what one is assigned to do, how horrible it will be if one fails a test--or worse, the class--or would there be a more positive outcome if one taught the principles of math, how taking notes in class will help them successfully complete homework, and how homework practice promotes better work and understanding on tests which results in good grades and promotion to a higher level of schooling.

Time is better spent on teaching than warnings. When an answer is wrong, isn't it more productive to show where the error was made, how to correct it, and how to overcome it in the future?

Would a better approach in addressing sin, not to harangue over the ultimate consequence, but instead to provide solutions to those who are trapped by a sin(s).

Well, the ONLY solution to avoid the penalty of sin is the Cross.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

achyz00731. Schlafly Vigano Putin Collusion. see also achyz00729

'Russia the Last Bastion of Civilization Against Barbarism' - Catholic Archbishop Vigano, Fierce Critic of Pope Francis.

post 655. Putin is no Christian

Calypso Jones cdxiv to 413: January 3 through 5..a fasting and prayer for the J6 Political prisoners. ArchBishop Vigano has called for this. If you can find it in your heart to do this...join many of us who will be doing it. clypsjbs 230101 SprtjN00414

NotfooledbyW dccxxxi to 655 : So tell me Saint Ding; as you consider yourself in the purity of Christianity to be a member of the first and last bastion of civilization; why you cannot say whether or not Catholic Archbishop Vigano (pictured above) who is known to be an outspoken and fierce critic of Pope Francis and is saying that genocidal fascist leader of Russia is the Last Bastion of Civilization” is a Christian?

You must believe Saint Ding in your heart of hearts on this message board that Saint Calypso Jones and his beloved convicted J6, violent opponents of “peaceful transfer of power” cop beating, obstructionists are good Christians being persecuted by the Biden Harris Deep State simply for trying to protect Christian civilization.

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[ding]

ding said:
Is that what they teach in black Christian churches?



It God is a providential and moralistic creator as Saint ding says HE is; it stands to a reason that HE would and should damn America when America kills innocent people.

Bibliical Worldview Republicans tell us that the God of Abraham will damn well put the nation in punishment for killing the innocent unborn if we don’t stop.


Had Reverend Wright said “god damn America“ for the passage of Roe v Wade:
in your biblical worldview would you concur?

You said you believed in a moralistic and providential creator.

 

[ding]

achyz00731. Schlafly Vigano Putin Collusion. see also achyz00729

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'Russia the Last Bastion of Civilization Against Barbarism' - Catholic Archbishop Vigano, Fierce Critic of Pope Francis.



Calypso Jones cdxiv to 413: January 3 through 5..a fasting and prayer for the J6 Political prisoners. ArchBishop Vigano has called for this. If you can find it in your heart to do this...join many of us who will be doing it. clypsjbs 230101 SprtjN00414

NotfooledbyW dccxxxi to 655 : So tell me Saint Ding; as you consider yourself in the purity of Christianity to be a member of the first and last bastion of civilization; why you cannot say whether or not Catholic Archbishop Vigano (pictured above) who is known to be an outspoken and fierce critic of Pope Francis and is saying that genocidal fascist leader of Russia is the Last Bastion of Civilization” is a Christian?

You must believe Saint Ding in your heart of hearts on this message board that Saint Calypso Jones and his beloved convicted J6, violent opponents of “peaceful transfer of power” cop beating, obstructionists are good Christians being persecuted by the Biden Harris Deep State simply for trying to protect Christian civilization.

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Are you making a moral argument?

 

[ding]

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sentenced to death in Texas for being pregnant

​

Over the course of six hours on June 11, 2023, Porsha Ngumezi had bled so much in the emergency department at Houston Methodist Sugar Land that she’d needed two transfusions.​

Third woman dies under Texas’ abortion ban as doctors use riskier miscarriage treatments

Wrapping his wife in a blanket as she mourned the loss of her pregnancy at 11 weeks, Hope Ngumezi wondered why no obstetrician was coming to see her. Over the course of six hours on June 11, 2023, Porsha Ngumezi had bled so much in the emergency department at Houston Methodist Sugar Land that...

www.rawstory.com

She was anxious to get home to her young sons, but, according to a nurse’s notes, she was still “passing large clots the size of grapefruit.”​

god damn biblical worldview Republicans for this mother of two whom they killed in Texas with God, damned Republican biblical worldview healthcarelessness!

Is this another moral argument?

 

[ding]

achyz00729. ABSOLUTE LIE that Trump and Ellis are victims of political religious persecutions is what won the election for Trump.

Look up Ralph Reed. rReec

ding cclxxxix: Actually the American people rendered their verdict on the Democratic Party by rejecting them on every level. dvng 241110 Stbwms00289

NotfooledbyW dccxxix: Actually the fascist leaning white rural turnout in swing states was way up for this election in what was a another trial off with the c heads of the heads of the incumbents stupid American election

Baptist News is part of America’s Christian Heritage giving us a report on Saint Jenna Ellis and her American fascist christian heritage and her felony conviction for Trump in Georgia

Two evangelical Christian leaders indicted along with Trump in Georgia – Baptist News Global

View attachment 1046690
Two evangelical Christian leaders indicted along with Trump in Georgia

NEWS STEVE RABEY | AUGUST 16, 2023

Two evangelical Christian leaders were among the 18 individuals indicted in Georgia Aug. 14 and charged with criminally conspiring with Donald Trump to overturn his 2020 election loss.

Jenna Ellis, an attorney who has worked with many conservative Christian organizations, was indicted on two counts for:

• Making false allegations of election fraud at press conferences and in meetings with legislators of Georgia, Arizona and Michigan.
• Promoting fake elector schemes in multiple states.
• Writing two legal memos that illegally advised Vice President Mike Pence to disregard legitimate Electoral College votes from Georgia and other states.

Jenna Ellis, one of the lead attorneys for the Thomas More Society fighting COVID restrictions in California, also served on former President Donald Trump’s legal team.

Jenna Ellis is a homeschooled attorney who parlayed a thin professional resume, a self-published book and a good TV presence to land prestigious positions with James Dobson and others before joining legal teams at the Trump White House and his 2020 campaign.

She worked closely with Rudy Giuliani and others as part of what she described as a “crack legal team,” but that team was unsuccessful in dozens of court cases in states Trump lost.

On February 10 this year, Ellis signed an agreement that declared a public censure of her as an attorney who has violated ethics standards and is guilty of “dishonesty.”

She was censured for misconduct and confessed to operating from a “selfish motive” while making “misrepresentations” with “a reckless state of mind.” She nearly lost her license to practice law.

Ellis signed an admission that “her conduct … undermined the American public’s confidence in the presidential election, violating her duty of candor to the public” as she promoted false election fraud claims in courtrooms, in state capitols, on Christian media and on Fox News, which recently paid $787 million to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by Dominion Voting Systems.

But she’s still lying

But Ellis still changes her tune when she’s not in a courtroom being censured and continues to claim the election was rigged.

“The Democrats and the Fulton County DA are criminalizing the practice of law,” she said in a post about the indictments on Twitter.

“I am resolved to trust the Lord and I will simply continue to honor, praise and serve him. I deeply appreciate all of my friends who have reached out offering encouragement and support.”

Her Twitter account still features old posts repeating her false claims, including a Nov. 21, 2020, post (“No one really believes this election was honest. It was STOLEN and we all know it.”) and a Dec. 3 post about a Georgia Senate hearing on election fraud that was cited in her indictment:

The VIDEO EVIDENCE being shown in the Georgia Senate Hearing is SHOCKING. Room cleared at 10:30 p.m. 4 people stay behind. Thousands of ballots pulled from under a table in suitcases and scanned. FRAUD!!!

Ties to evangelicals groups

Ellis has worked with a number of Christian groups, none of which have acknowledged or addressed her censure or indictments. Among those:

Cedarville University. Ellis attended the Ohio school before transferring to Colorado State University. It offers a Jenna Lynn Ellis Award, an endowed scholarship for junior or senior students planning to attend law school. The school’s website features an article about Ellis and the scholarship.

Colorado Christian University and Centennial Institute. CCU President Bill Armstrong recognized Ellis’ talent in front of a camera. She served as a CCU professor (CCU originally called her “Dr. Ellis” before correcting the title). Currently she is a Fellow in Constitutional Law and Public Policy at CCU’s Centennial Institute, and she spoke at the Institute’s Western Conservative Summit this summer.

James Dobson Family Institute. Dobson named Ellis director of the Public Policy Center at JDFI, the nonprofit he founded after leaving Focus, and introduced her to Fox News, where she was seen by Trump.

Tim Clinton, a co-host of Dobson’s “Family Talk” radio show, said, “Jenna’s talents are obvious to anyone who has met her in person or seen her on television providing excellent policy and legal analysis.”

Liberty University’s Standing for Freedom Center. Ellis is a Senior Fellow at the center, where she has contributed articles on truth and how to “Defend Freedom from Democratic Party Authoritarians.”

John MacArthur’s Grace Community Church. Ellis was one of two attorneys successfully defending Grace against COVID vaccine mandates on behalf of the Thomas More Society. Grace won payments totaling $800,000 from California and Los Angeles County after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the mandates, and the payments were forwarded to the society.

Ellis appears in “The Essential Church,” a movie about the case produced by Grace.

Summit Ministries. Ellis is an alumnus and faculty at Summit Ministries, the Christian worldview program for youth.

She also appeared in the ministry’s podcast, “The Dr. Jeff Show,” to encourage believers “to stand for God’s truth and expect persecution whenever we follow Jesus Christ.”

Ellis hosts “The Jenna Ellis Show” on the Salem Podcast Network, where she focuses on “the rule of law and the importance of integrity in our elections.”

She has appeared on the Christian Broadcasting Network and condemned government tyranny in a podcast from Concerned Women for America.

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More moral arguments?

If you believe in a moralistic and providential creator wouldn’t the creator me the source of morality and logic?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Is this another moral argument?

Saint Ding is dumbfounded and intellectually stuck outside of objective reality and is trying to mumble his way back in. No, I don’t think being lost in the wilderness of self delusion is a moral problem for him. He’s just there and its where he wants to be. He is free. No harm; no foul.

 

[ding]

Saint Ding is dumbfounded and intellectually stuck outside of objective reality and is trying to mumble his way back in. No, I don’t think being lost in the wilderness of self delusion is a moral problem for him. He’s just there and its where he wants to be. He is free. No harm; no foul.

Are you still making a moral argument?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

i. theHawk OP i. : The Justice also wrote in the opinion that if personhood could be attributed to the fetus, then the 14th amendment would protect the right to life of the fetus. thhwk 241122 Sttsor00001

ii. BackAgain xi,dclv: “Do we or do we not place actual stock in our long cherished national commitment to the right to life?” bckgn 231027 rvwgo11655

iii. NotfooledbyW dccxxxviii to rvwgo11655: Question for all church is state - state is church Republicans;

How is there a long established national commitment to the right of life of a fetus as expressed in paragraph ii. when the right to life of a fetus was never established in the original constitution or any of its amendments ever since he has expressed in paragraph i. ?

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[ding]

if personhood could be attributed to the fetus

You mean like how DNA is used as evidence to PROVE which person it belongs to in courts of law?

 

[BreezeWood]

You mean like how DNA is used as evidence to PROVE which person it belongs to in courts of law?

is dna suppose to be living tissue for a christian ... cancer cells have dna, hair also - do christians never get a haircut.