America's Christian Heritage

[whutTHEYsay]

DNA is evidence used to distinguish persons.

I have never argued otherwise.

 

[BreezeWood]

Despite repeatedly being asked, you have never said which religion you follow and you think I'm the phony?

liar -

the heavenly religion of antiquity the true religion of the 1st century events why they occurred and from the time of a&e - the goal made by the heavens for admission to the everlasting.

provide the stone tablets claimed by the liar moses w/ 10 commandments from the heavens or as jesus demanded remove them from judaism - all three desert religions.

 

[BreezeWood]

The constitution is silent on that subject. So it goes to the states.

life, liberty and justice - the 14th amendment says otherwise in regards to sovereignty.

 

[ding]

You are a liar. See paragraph ii. I refer to every human conception as a new unique human being.

i. ding mxxxix. : “I am not a creationist. But I do believe this is a life‑breeding universe because the constant presence of mind made it so.” dvng 231028 Saqfpc01039

ii. NotfooledbyW xi,dccxlv. to aafpc1039: Have you solved the mystery Saint Ding of at which moment the “presence of mind” transforms each new and unique in utero human matter into a new unique human being with capability and spiritual energy to think as a self. nfbw 231039 Vrvwgo11745

iii. ding m,lv. : “It's not the job of science to determine if society morally is obligated to considerate it alive. It's only the job of science to inform society when it is scientifically alive and genetically distinct. Society's job (typically done through legislation) is to determine if and/or when that life may be terminated. “ dvng 220730 Srvwgo04060

Western civilization was built upon not punishing a woman who kills the human life inside her body early in the pregnancy. That is reality you cannot deny Sire Ding.

I'm not reading your stupid OCD formatting.

 

[ding]

States cannot grant personhood to the unborn without a constitutional amendment.

There's no need for states to do that. They can write laws on abortion which reflect that. And they have, right?

 

[ding]

liar -

the heavenly religion of antiquity the true religion of the 1st century events why they occurred and from the time of a&e - the goal made by the heavens for admission to the everlasting.

provide the stone tablets claimed by the liar moses w/ 10 commandments from the heavens or as jesus demanded remove them from judaism - all three desert religions.

Which religion do you follow?

 

[ding]

life, liberty and justice - the 14th amendment says otherwise in regards to sovereignty.

Clearly you don't understand the 14th amendment because abortion is being decided by the states.

 

[ding]

I have never argued otherwise.

Great, then there's your proof of person hood. Win win.

 

[BreezeWood]

Which religion do you follow?

life, liberty and justice -

what the christians, desert dwellers have fought against from the beginning - bing.

 

[BreezeWood]

Clearly you don't understand the 14th amendment because abortion is being decided by the states.

the national gov't has yet to pass a law that will supersede the states right to intervene - bing the deceiver and their phony states rights ...

 

[ding]

what the christians, desert dwellers have fought against from the beginning - bing.

Which religion was that?

 

[ding]

the national gov't has yet to pass a law that will supersede the states right to intervene - bing the deceiver and their phony states rights ...

And yet each state is writing its own laws on abortion. Remarkable, isn't it?

 

[BreezeWood]

And yet each state is writing its own laws on abortion. Remarkable, isn't it?

bing the deceiver and their phony states rights ...

no and why are the rights of individuals the subject of any state laws - than its appeal to deceivers and zealots.

 

[ding]

no and why are the rights of individuals the subject of any state laws - than its appeal to deceivers and zealots.

Because that's how the constitution was written.

I can't think of a bigger zealot than you and Hobelim. Two peas in the same pod.

 

[BreezeWood]

Because that's how the constitution was written.

no and why are the rights of individuals the subject of any state laws - than its appeal to deceivers and zealots.

the u s constitution is for all its citizens, life, liberty and freedom - the religions of servitude and denial are deliberately excluded is the reason zealots chose states rights for their perverted objectives.

 

[ding]

the u s constitution is for all its citizens, life, liberty and freedom - the religions of servitude and denial are deliberately excluded is the reason zealots chose states rights for their perverted objectives.

Maybe study the 10th amendment?

 

[BreezeWood]

Maybe study the 10th amendment?

is there a reason ... its the 14th that ensures national unity - the secessionist lost the civil war to bad for the desert religions they got what they deserved.

 

[g5000]

In 1835 Alexis de Tocqueville wrote in his book, Democracy in America, "Upon my arrival in the United States the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this new state of things. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country. Religion in America...must be regarded as the foremost of the political institutions of that country; for if it does not impart a taste for freedom, it facilitates the use of it. Indeed, it is in this same point of view that the inhabitants of the United States themselves look upon religious belief. I do not know whether all Americans have a sincere faith in their religion -- for who can search the human heart? But I am certain that they hold it to be indispensable to the maintenance of republican institutions. This opinion is not peculiar to a class of citizens or a party, but it belongs to the whole nation and to every rank of society. In the United States, the sovereign authority is religious...there is no country in the world where the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility and of its conformity to human nature than that its influence is powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth. In the United States, the influence of religion is not confined to the manners, but it extends to the intelligence of the people...

Christianity, therefore, reigns without obstacle, by universal consent...

I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors...; in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great. The safeguard of morality is religion, and morality is the best security of law as well as the surest pledge of freedom. The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other Christianity is the companion of liberty in all its conflicts -- the cradle of its infancy, and the divine source of its claims."

The New England primer : a reprint of the earliest known edition ; with many facsimiles and reproductions; and an historical introduction : Ford, Paul Leicester, 1865-1902 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

The New England Primer - Wikipedia

I see what you did there.

You carefully edited out the full context of Alexis de Tocqueville's remarks about religion in America. I've read Democracy in America from cover to cover twice. I'm sure you have not read it.

Here's what you quoted:

Upon my arrival in the United States, the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there the more did I perceive the great political consequences resulting from this state of things, to which I was unaccustomed. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom pursuing courses diametrically opposed to each other; but in America I found that they were intimately united, and that they reigned in common over the same country.


And that's where you excised the remainder of the paragraph and jumped right over his point.

Here is the rest:


My desire to discover the causes of this phenomenon increased from day to day. In order to satisfy it I questioned the members of all the different sects; and I more especially sought the society of the clergy, who are the depositaries of the different persuasions, and who are more especially interested in their duration. As a member of the Roman Catholic Church I was more particularly brought into contact with several of its priests, with whom I became intimately acquainted. To each of these men I expressed my astonishment and I explained my doubts; I found that they differed upon matters of detail alone; and that they mainly attributed the peaceful dominion of religion in their country to the separation of Church and State. I do not hesitate to affirm that during my stay in America I did not meet with a single individual, of the clergy or of the laity, who was not of the same opinion upon this point.

Democracy in America, Chapter 17


Religion thrives in America precisely because it was separated from the state. You tried to pull a fast one, but you didn't know I was going to see your stunt.


Alexis de Tocqueville than provides us with a very prescient warning:

The unbelievers of Europe attack the Christians as their political opponents rather than as their religious adversaries; they hate the Christian religion as the opinion of a party much more than as an error of belief; and they reject the clergy less because they are the representatives of the Deity than because they are the allies of government.

In Europe, Christianity has been intimately united to the powers of the earth. Those powers are now in decay, and it is, as it were, buried under their ruins. The living body of religion has been bound down to the dead corpse of superannuated polity; cut but the bonds that restrain it, and it will rise once more. I do not know what could restore the Christian church of Europe to the energy of its earlier days; that power belongs to God alone; but it may be for human policy to leave to faith the full exercise of the strength which it still retains.


Think about that as a political party cheers, celebrates, and nominates a man who boasts of his adultery. Who steals from cancer kids. Who brags about coveting other men's wives. Who bears false witness against even members of his own party.

Think real, real hard about that.

That is how God is being killed off.

Satan is devious. Very devious.

 

[BreezeWood]

You carefully edited out the full context of Alexis de Tocqueville's remarks about religion in America.

they also do not know how to count - their 10th is negated by the 14th just as the 1st century negated judaism the true role of jesus - they fear the truth to use again their old tactics to persecute and victimize the innocent is their goal.

scotus is attempting to do the same, turn back the clock is what they are mimicking. the 10th ultimately goes to the people than the state written for that purpose they simply ignore.

 

[g5000]

In 1835 Alexis de Tocqueville wrote in his book, Democracy in America, "Upon my arrival in the United States the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this new state of things. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country.

You are a very dishonest person. You should be very ashamed of yourself.

Everything in your quote up to this point is in Part III of Chapter 17.

You then start the next sentence without a break from the previous sentence as if it immediately followed:

Religion in America...must be regarded as the foremost of the political institutions of that country; for if it does not impart a taste for freedom, it facilitates the use of it.

This part is deep in part II BEFORE the previous bit you quoted.

You also put an ellipsis where the words "takes no direct part in the government of society" are.

Religion in America takes no direct part in the government of society...

Indeed, it is in this same point of view that the inhabitants of the United States themselves look upon religious belief. I do not know whether all Americans have a sincere faith in their religion -- for who can search the human heart? But I am certain that they hold it to be indispensable to the maintenance of republican institutions. This opinion is not peculiar to a class of citizens or a party, but it belongs to the whole nation and to every rank of society. In the United States, the sovereign authority is religious...there is no country in the world where the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility and of its conformity to human nature than that its influence is powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth. In the United States, the influence of religion is not confined to the manners, but it extends to the intelligence of the people...

Christianity, therefore, reigns without obstacle, by universal consent...

Again with the ellipses, you dishonest ****!

Between "the intelligence of the people" and "Christianity, therefore", he wrote:

Amongst the Anglo-Americans, there are some who profess the doctrines of Christianity from a sincere belief in them, and others who do the same because they are afraid to be suspected of unbelief. Christianity, therefore, reigns without any obstacle, by universal consent;

I'm not impressed by the college mottos you posted. I'm sure Notre Dame has some nice religious things in their motto, too.

Since you like irrelevant college mottos and such, I will leave you with a fact that actually means something.

The Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by our Founders.

ARTICLE 11.​

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.