American education and Otto Warmbier.

[Ray9]

Otto Warmbier is a sad example of an educational system in the US that believes the best way to solve societal problems is to go into classrooms and stretch condoms over cucumbers. Unfortunately for generations of American students bad educational policies have left them pathetically unable to cope with, perceive or make sense of the real world. Otto Warmbier is a product of the American educational system and today he lies poisoned in a coma because the real world is very real indeed in spite of the bad education Warmbier received.


The Republic of North Korea did not come to the United States and kidnap Otto Warmbier. Warmbier, apparently infused with a Harry-Potter, liberalized carefree worldview, went there on his own with a tour group called the Young Pioneers. It’s difficult for a reasonable mind to wrap itself around the motivation to go into a region that is notorious for the gravest human rights violations on the planet-against its own people, let alone foreigners. Warbier’s casual dismissal of reality ostensibly emboldened him to flip off the North Koreans by stealing one of their propaganda signs.


The North Korean government routinely arrests its own citizens for perceived infractions against the state and then not only imprisons them in concentration camps it rounds up all the members of the citizen’s family and throws them in prison as well. People go into these camps and are never seen again. Apparently Warmbier, armed with his grand liberal education couldn’t figure this out. To Warmbier it was all just a joke because according to his education the real world isn’t really real and the North Koreans would all laugh when they got the joke.


Otto Warmbier was sentenced to be worked to death just like any average North Korean citizen. The North Koreans do not supply the best cuisine for their prisoners. Warmbier was probably eating rats like the other prisoners and got food poisoning. The North Koreans, who exist in the real world, do not waste money on medical attention for prisoners so when Warmbier fell into a coma he was on his own.


American education needs to be seriously examined so the Otto Warmbiers of this world can make sense of the real world.

 

[Timmy]

Teen pregnancies are at an all time low. I guess going into classrooms does work.

 

[Tank]

Teen pregnancies are at an all time low. I guess going into classrooms does work.

Na, they are just having more abortions

 

[Ray9]

Teen pregnancies are at an all time low. I guess going into classrooms does work.[/QUOTE

Not from condoms and cucumbers. The kids are smarter today.

 

[Timmy]

Teen pregnancies are at an all time low. I guess going into classrooms does work.

Na, they are just having more abortions

Let's pretend that's true (it's not ) , sooooo? Who wants some 16 year old skank having a baby ?

 

[leftwinger]

Country Joe tried to warn em'......Whoopeee we're all gonna die.
Come home in a box.

 

[Timmy]

As for Auto. He sounds like another spoiled rich white kid.

 

[Tank]

Let's pretend that's true (it's not ) , sooooo? Who wants some 16 year old skank having a baby ?

Liberals

 

[Ray9]

I'm trying to find some compassion for Warmbier but it's hard.

 

[michaeluad]

I don't think abortions are low but has increases. That statistic is wrong.

 

[usmbguest5318]

What follows is not a defense of the North Koreans. Rather it is merely my way of saying that your emotionally charged and nicely written essay asks one to willingly suspend disbelief for it relies on and/or contains too many unsubstantiated, some even being utterly unfounded, premises and inferences.

Unfortunately for generations of American students bad educational policies have left them pathetically unable to cope with, perceive or make sense of the real world. Otto Warmbier is a product of the American educational system

• What does the school system he went to -- Wyoming High School -- have to do with how the North Koreans have treated him? As far as I know, theft is everywhere considered a criminal act. If Warmbier didn't know that and know what risks accompany thievery, well, that's hardly anyone's fault but his.
• What does Warmbier's judgment (or lapses in it) have to do with how the North Koreans have treated him?

Warbier’s casual dismissal of reality ostensibly emboldened him to flip off the North Koreans by stealing one of their propaganda signs.

• Did Warmbier "dismiss reality," or did he just to himself say, "F*ck it, I'm going to take that sign," and then act on that notion? I don't know. Do you? If so, how?

Do you know of any country wherein if one gets caught stealing state property one will not be arrested and possibly incarcerated?

Apparently Warmbier, armed with his grand liberal education couldn’t figure this out.

I haven't seen anything that indicates "figuring it out" -- other than how to remove the sign -- was something Warmbier needed to do. He went to the DPRK with a group on an organized tour and the other members of the group didn't get arrested.

The North Koreans do not supply the best cuisine for their prisoners. Warmbier was probably eating rats like the other prisoners

Prisons generally aren't known for their "white tablecloth" cuisine, so the DPRK's are likely no different. Rat meat is quite likely sufficiently nutritious (see also: Nutrition Feeder Mice | Nutrient Composition of Feeder Animals), even if it's not emotionally enthralling to eat it.

Warmbier was probably eating rats like the other prisoners and got food poisoning.

One will not contract botulism poisoning merely from consuming properly handled and prepared rat, or anything else. Botulism is caused by a toxin produced by a bacterium, Clostridium botulinum. The bacteria produce the poison in rotting carcasses, as well as in mouldy silage and hay. The poison is formed in the carcasses of almost all animals -- mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, and fish. The poison spreads in the flesh and bones of the carcasses and can remain in the bones for years.

Botulism poisoning (a form of food poisoning) can be contracted even from eating vegetation on which the bacterium exists. Most creatures, including humans, are susceptible to botulism poisoning. Dogs and pigs rarely "contract" food poisoning from eating infested foods and there are no reports of cats ever contracting it.

 

[Norman]

You can deny the reality all you want, but that won't change the reality.

He got exactly what he deserved.

Sadly, these liberals want to import the 3rd world people to the West, and then the innocent will suffer as well.

 

[Ray9]

Did you hear Otto Warmbier's father singing the praises of victimology? Otto was "lured" to North Korea? Does anyone get that North Korea was just fishing for idiots? Does anyone get that Otto Warmbier was not a victim of North korea? Does anyone get that Otto Warmbier was a victim of a second class education that left him with the mental capacity of a month-old kitten wandering onto a freeway? Otto Warmbier is the canary in the coal mind warning us about the tragic failure of American education and its fatal effect on innocent citizens who are ill-prepared to function in the real world. Does anyone get this?

 

[warnovelist]

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Otto Warmbier is a sad example of an educational system in the US that believes the best way to solve societal problems is to go into classrooms and stretch condoms over cucumbers. Unfortunately for generations of American students bad educational policies have left them pathetically unable to cope with, perceive or make sense of the real world. Otto Warmbier is a product of the American educational system and today he lies poisoned in a coma because the real world is very real indeed in spite of the bad education Warmbier received.


The Republic of North Korea did not come to the United States and kidnap Otto Warmbier. Warmbier, apparently infused with a Harry-Potter, liberalized carefree worldview, went there on his own with a tour group called the Young Pioneers. It’s difficult for a reasonable mind to wrap itself around the motivation to go into a region that is notorious for the gravest human rights violations on the planet-against its own people, let alone foreigners. Warbier’s casual dismissal of reality ostensibly emboldened him to flip off the North Koreans by stealing one of their propaganda signs.


The North Korean government routinely arrests its own citizens for perceived infractions against the state and then not only imprisons them in concentration camps it rounds up all the members of the citizen’s family and throws them in prison as well. People go into these camps and are never seen again. Apparently Warmbier, armed with his grand liberal education couldn’t figure this out. To Warmbier it was all just a joke because according to his education the real world isn’t really real and the North Koreans would all laugh when they got the joke.


Otto Warmbier was sentenced to be worked to death just like any average North Korean citizen. The North Koreans do not supply the best cuisine for their prisoners. Warmbier was probably eating rats like the other prisoners and got food poisoning. The North Koreans, who exist in the real world, do not waste money on medical attention for prisoners so when Warmbier fell into a coma he was on his own.


American education needs to be seriously examined so the Otto Warmbiers of this world can make sense of the real world.

You obviously did not watch his doctor's news conference today.

 

[Hossfly]

What follows is not a defense of the North Koreans. Rather it is merely my way of saying that your emotionally charged and nicely written essay asks one to willingly suspend disbelief for it relies on and/or contains too many unsubstantiated, some even being utterly unfounded, premises and inferences.

Unfortunately for generations of American students bad educational policies have left them pathetically unable to cope with, perceive or make sense of the real world. Otto Warmbier is a product of the American educational system

• What does the school system he went to -- Wyoming High School -- have to do with how the North Koreans have treated him? As far as I know, theft is everywhere considered a criminal act. If Warmbier didn't know that and know what risks accompany thievery, well, that's hardly anyone's fault but his.
• What does Warmbier's judgment (or lapses in it) have to do with how the North Koreans have treated him?

Warbier’s casual dismissal of reality ostensibly emboldened him to flip off the North Koreans by stealing one of their propaganda signs.

• Did Warmbier "dismiss reality," or did he just to himself say, "F*ck it, I'm going to take that sign," and then act on that notion? I don't know. Do you? If so, how?

Do you know of any country wherein if one gets caught stealing state property one will not be arrested and possibly incarcerated?

Apparently Warmbier, armed with his grand liberal education couldn’t figure this out.

I haven't seen anything that indicates "figuring it out" -- other than how to remove the sign -- was something Warmbier needed to do. He went to the DPRK with a group on an organized tour and the other members of the group didn't get arrested.

The North Koreans do not supply the best cuisine for their prisoners. Warmbier was probably eating rats like the other prisoners

Prisons generally aren't known for their "white tablecloth" cuisine, so the DPRK's are likely no different. Rat meat is quite likely sufficiently nutritious (see also: Nutrition Feeder Mice | Nutrient Composition of Feeder Animals), even if it's not emotionally enthralling to eat it.

Warmbier was probably eating rats like the other prisoners and got food poisoning.

One will not contract botulism poisoning merely from consuming properly handled and prepared rat, or anything else. Botulism is caused by a toxin produced by a bacterium, Clostridium botulinum. The bacteria produce the poison in rotting carcasses, as well as in mouldy silage and hay. The poison is formed in the carcasses of almost all animals -- mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, and fish. The poison spreads in the flesh and bones of the carcasses and can remain in the bones for years.

Botulism poisoning (a form of food poisoning) can be contracted even from eating vegetation on which the bacterium exists. Most creatures, including humans, are susceptible to botulism poisoning. Dogs and pigs rarely "contract" food poisoning from eating infested foods and there are no reports of cats ever contracting it.

Ever serve a tour of duty in Korea? Do you know what happens when you even touch a dead rat in Korea? Ever heard about hemorrhagic fever caused by rats?

 

[warnovelist]

It's a madhouse! A madhouse!

 

[Hossfly]

It's a madhouse! A madhouse!

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[Political Junky]

Otto Warmbier is a sad example of an educational system in the US that believes the best way to solve societal problems is to go into classrooms and stretch condoms over cucumbers. Unfortunately for generations of American students bad educational policies have left them pathetically unable to cope with, perceive or make sense of the real world. Otto Warmbier is a product of the American educational system and today he lies poisoned in a coma because the real world is very real indeed in spite of the bad education Warmbier received.


The Republic of North Korea did not come to the United States and kidnap Otto Warmbier. Warmbier, apparently infused with a Harry-Potter, liberalized carefree worldview, went there on his own with a tour group called the Young Pioneers. It’s difficult for a reasonable mind to wrap itself around the motivation to go into a region that is notorious for the gravest human rights violations on the planet-against its own people, let alone foreigners. Warbier’s casual dismissal of reality ostensibly emboldened him to flip off the North Koreans by stealing one of their propaganda signs.


The North Korean government routinely arrests its own citizens for perceived infractions against the state and then not only imprisons them in concentration camps it rounds up all the members of the citizen’s family and throws them in prison as well. People go into these camps and are never seen again. Apparently Warmbier, armed with his grand liberal education couldn’t figure this out. To Warmbier it was all just a joke because according to his education the real world isn’t really real and the North Koreans would all laugh when they got the joke.


Otto Warmbier was sentenced to be worked to death just like any average North Korean citizen. The North Koreans do not supply the best cuisine for their prisoners. Warmbier was probably eating rats like the other prisoners and got food poisoning. The North Koreans, who exist in the real world, do not waste money on medical attention for prisoners so when Warmbier fell into a coma he was on his own.


American education needs to be seriously examined so the Otto Warmbiers of this world can make sense of the real world.

Looks like Otto's father, Fred Warmbler, is a Trump fan.

Otto Warmbier’s father denounces North Korea as his son is treated for a ‘severe neurological injury’

About 10 p.m. Wednesday, President Trump called him, he said, asking how Otto was doing and urging him to take care of himself. “It was gracious,” he said. “It was nice.” He said the president told him that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and others had worked hard to free his son, and that he was sorry about his condition.

Asked whether he felt that the Obama administration had not done enough to help, Fred Warmbier said, “I think the results speak for themselves.”

 

[Muhammed]

Teen pregnancies are at an all time low. I guess going into classrooms does work.

Na, they are just having more abortions

Let's pretend that's true (it's not ) , sooooo? Who wants some 16 year old skank having a baby ?

I know several girls who had babies at 16. I certainly wouldn't call them skanks.

Your hatred of women is showing.