America Founded as a Christian Nation

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I am willing to move to a rebuttal to your argument about militant atheists. But there were no militant atheists having an impact on the founding of America.

The militant atheistic regimes are historical evidence that virtue and morality cannot be maintained without religion.

You can’t rebut that.

 

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So I will continue to wait for your response to my point about the critical importance of Madison and Jefferson’s intellect vs the importance of virtue established by Christian religiosity in the common folk had in founding our great nation.

1. They were just two of over 400 Founding Fathers and they were the exception, not the rule which I already mentioned.

2. Their ideas came from Locke so you give them too much credit.

3. They all believed in Natural Law which comes from nature’s God. They weren’t atheists.

 

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So where is your reply to my accompanying point in (23922797)? Do you think religious virtue present in common Christian Church-going believers would have produced the founding of America on its own without the education and intellect of Adams Jefferson and Madison being there to drive America into existence?

100%. The ideas came from Locke.

 

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It’s probably time to summarize my belief. America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

1. America was settled by Christians in the 1600’s.

2. Her people were overwhelmingly Christians from its first settlers and through and beyond her founding.

3. Christian values and principles were imbedded in every aspect of American life from the textbooks used to educate her children through her universities which they graduated from.

4. We even have eyewitness testimony of how Christianity was interwoven into the governorship of its people with the conclusion that that is what made America great.

 

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The belief that virtue and morality are needed for liberty and freedom to exist has not been refuted.

 

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The belief that virtue and morality cannot persist without religion has not been refuted

 

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The Founding Fathers were heavily influenced by Locke who was heavily influenced by Judaeo-Christian values and principles.

"...Locke's concept of man started with the belief in creation.[72] Like philosophers Hugo Grotius and Samuel Pufendorf, Locke equated natural law with the biblical revelation.[73][74][75] Locke derived the fundamental concepts of his political theory from biblical texts, in particular from Genesis 1 and 2 (creation), the Decalogue, the Golden Rule, the teachings of Jesus, and the letters of Paul the Apostle.[76] The Decalogue puts a person's life, their reputation, and property under God's protection.

Locke's philosophy on freedom is also derived from the Bible. Locke also derived basic human equality from the Bible, including the equality of the sexes, the starting point of the theological doctrine of Imago Dei.[77] To Locke, one of the consequences of the principle of equality was that all humans were created equally free and therefore governments needed the consent of the governed.[78] Locke compared the English Monarchy's rule over the British people to Adam's rule over Eve in Genesis, which was appointed by God.[79]

Following Locke's philosophy, the American Declaration of Independence founded human rights partially on the biblical belief in creation. Locke's doctrine that governments need the consent of the governed is also central to the Declaration of Independence.[80]..."

John Locke - Wikipedia


Locke believed that freedom was given to the individual conditionally, in the assumption of his constant religious responsibility to God.

“...For having quitted Reason, which God hath given to be the Rule betwixt Man and Man, and the common bond whereby humane kind is united into one fellowship and societie; and having renounced the way of peace, which that teaches, and made use of the Force of War to compasse his unjust ends upon an other, where he has no right, and so revolting from his own kind to that of Beasts by making Force which is theirs, to be his rule of right, he renders himself liable to be destroyed by the injur’d person and the rest of mankind, that will joyn with him in the execution of Justice, as any other wild beast, or noxious brute with whom Mankind can have neither Society nor Security...”

J. Locke, Two Treatises of Government, ed. P Laslett (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1988), p. 383.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Post 23924666

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

....basically you are saying but not limited to because Christians were in the majority at the time of the founding. Which is not in dispute.

But if your belief as defined in 23924666 is a restatement of this thread’s title that America was founded as a Christian Nation you are wrong. Triply wrong. As in Treaty of Tripoli wrong.

At the turn of the 19th century our founding fathers signed a treaty that settles it:

Treaty of Tripoli ,
https://www.usconstitution.net/tripoli.htmlhttps://www.usconstitution.net/tripoli.html

• Article 11. As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, — as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, — and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

That statement is boldly enshrined in a major treaty signed by the President of the newly formed United States and approved by the United States Senate.

 

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Post 23924666

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

....basically you are saying but not limited to because Christians were in the majority at the time of the founding. Which is not in dispute.

But if your belief as defined in 23924666 is a restatement of this thread’s title that America was founded as a Christian Nation you are wrong. Triply wrong. As in Treaty of Tripoli wrong.

At the turn of the 19th century our founding fathers signed a treaty that settles it:

Treaty of Tripoli ,
https://www.usconstitution.net/tripoli.html

• Article 11. As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, — as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, — and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

That statement is boldly enshrined in a major treaty signed by the President of the newly formed United States and approved by the United States Senate.

Try to separate religion from values and principles.

America was founded on Christian values and principles because it was founded by Christians.

 

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The belief that America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values has not been refuted.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

23924984

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

That statement is boldly enshrined in a major treaty signed by the President of the newly formed United States and approved by the United States Senate.

23925081 Reply to Post 23924984:

Try to separate religion from values and principles.

America was founded on Christian values and principles because it was founded by Christians.

Let’s be precise as to exactly what it is you wrote in Post 23924666

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

“America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because....” Mr. Ding.

Then we have the title of this thread: “America Founded as a Christian Nation” Mr. Porter Rockwell

And we have post 23899129

America was founded as a Christian nation. .

Mr. Rockwell uses a verb, as in an action was taken to establish a Christian Nation especially with provision for continuing existence.

Mr. Ding used an adjective as In founded on a principle or a set of principles. America was founded on Judeo Christian religious principles and the Enlightenment principle of Separation of Church and State, etc etc. with no limit on genuine founding principles

Treaty of Tripoli; And then we have on the record in a treaty with foreign nations that “the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

also put The nation was not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.

The Treaty of Tripoli rejects Mr Rockwell’s ACTION version but does not necessarily reject Mr. Ding’s historical version. That is unless Mr. Ding intends to restrict all founding principals other than Christian ones. And Mr Ding has indicated that he is not interested in exclusion.

The Treaty of Tripolu verifies and confirms my case that America was not founded as a Christine nation. America is a nation founded with a Constitution and a government that was established to never in its existence pick or choose a religion for the people. It’s called freedom of religion.

It’s an individual’s free decision. Not the decision of the Nation’s majority no matter what religion that might be.

 

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23924984

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

That statement is boldly enshrined in a major treaty signed by the President of the newly formed United States and approved by the United States Senate.

23925081 Reply to Post 23924984:

Try to separate religion from values and principles.

America was founded on Christian values and principles because it was founded by Christians.

Let’s be precise as to exactly what it is you wrote in Post 23924666

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

“America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because....” Mr. Ding.

Then we have the title of this thread: “America Founded as a Christian Nation” Mr. Porter Rockwell

And we have post 23899129

America was founded as a Christian nation. .

Mr. Rockwell uses a verb, as in an action was taken to establish a Christian Nation especially with provision for continuing existence.

Mr. Ding used an adjective as In founded on a principle or a set of principles. America was founded on Judeo Christian religious principles and the Enlightenment principle of Separation of Church and State, etc etc. with no limit on genuine founding principles

Treaty of Tripoli; And then we have on the record in a treaty with foreign nations that “the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

also put The nation was not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.

The Treaty of Tripoli rejects Mr Rockwell’s ACTION version but does not necessarily reject Mr. Ding’s historical version. That is unless Mr. Ding intends to restrict all founding principals other than Christian ones. And Mr Ding has indicated that he is not interested in exclusion.

The Treaty of Tripolu verifies and confirms my case that America was not founded as a Christine nation. America is a nation founded with a Constitution and a government that was established to never in its existence pick or choose a religion for the people. It’s called freedom of religion.

It’s an individual’s free decision. Not the decision of the Nation’s majority no matter what religion that might be.

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...
1. America was settled by Christians in the 1600’s.

2. Her people were overwhelmingly Christians from its first settlers and through and beyond her founding.

3. Christian values and principles were imbedded in every aspect of American life from the textbooks used to educate her children through her universities which they graduated from.

4. We even have eyewitness testimony of how Christianity was interwoven into the governorship of its people with the conclusion that that is what made America great.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

23924984

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

That statement is boldly enshrined in a major treaty signed by the President of the newly formed United States and approved by the United States Senate.

23925081 Reply to Post 23924984:

Try to separate religion from values and principles.

America was founded on Christian values and principles because it was founded by Christians.

Let’s be precise as to exactly what it is you wrote in Post 23924666

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

“America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because....” Mr. Ding.

Then we have the title of this thread: “America Founded as a Christian Nation” Mr. Porter Rockwell

And we have post 23899129

America was founded as a Christian nation. .

Mr. Rockwell uses a verb, as in an action was taken to establish a Christian Nation especially with provision for continuing existence.

Mr. Ding used an adjective as In founded on a principle or a set of principles. America was founded on Judeo Christian religious principles and the Enlightenment principle of Separation of Church and State, etc etc. with no limit on genuine founding principles

Treaty of Tripoli; And then we have on the record in a treaty with foreign nations that “the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

also put The nation was not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.

The Treaty of Tripoli rejects Mr Rockwell’s ACTION version but does not necessarily reject Mr. Ding’s historical version. That is unless Mr. Ding intends to restrict all founding principals other than Christian ones. And Mr Ding has indicated that he is not interested in exclusion.

The Treaty of Tripolu verifies and confirms my case that America was not founded as a Christine nation. America is a nation founded with a Constitution and a government that was established to never in its existence pick or choose a religion for the people. It’s called freedom of religion.

It’s an individual’s free decision. Not the decision of the Nation’s majority no matter what religion that might be.

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...
1. America was settled by Christians in the 1600’s.

2. Her people were overwhelmingly Christians from its first settlers and through and beyond her founding.

3. Christian values and principles were imbedded in every aspect of American life from the textbooks used to educate her children through her universities which they graduated from.

4. We even have eyewitness testimony of how Christianity was interwoven into the governorship of its people with the conclusion that that is what made America great.

I have spanked the atheists over the alleged Treaty of Tripoli so many times, my hands hurt just to think about it. I'm amazed you didn't include that in our resident troll's post. He's counting on hiding the fact that the issue was asked and answered. It is either a case of dishonesty OR fear driving the guy. In response to his charge:

According to Frank Lambert, Professor of History at Purdue University, the assurances in Article 11 {this disputed sentence where the Treaty said we were not a Christian nation} were "intended to allay the fears of the Muslim state by insisting that religion would not govern how the treaty was interpreted and enforced."

"... less than a decade later, by another 'Treaty of Peace and Amity,' signed in Tripoli June 4, 1805, in which the clause in question...is omitted."

Stokes, Anson Phelps (1950). Church and State in the United States. New York: Harper and Brothers Publishers. pp. 1:498.

AND the most important reason is WHY WAS A SECOND TREATY REQUIRED? Here is the unadulterated truth:

Treaty of Tripoli Article 11 Christian nation

 

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23924984

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

That statement is boldly enshrined in a major treaty signed by the President of the newly formed United States and approved by the United States Senate.

23925081 Reply to Post 23924984:

Try to separate religion from values and principles.

America was founded on Christian values and principles because it was founded by Christians.

Let’s be precise as to exactly what it is you wrote in Post 23924666

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

“America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because....” Mr. Ding.

Then we have the title of this thread: “America Founded as a Christian Nation” Mr. Porter Rockwell

And we have post 23899129

America was founded as a Christian nation. .

Mr. Rockwell uses a verb, as in an action was taken to establish a Christian Nation especially with provision for continuing existence.

Mr. Ding used an adjective as In founded on a principle or a set of principles. America was founded on Judeo Christian religious principles and the Enlightenment principle of Separation of Church and State, etc etc. with no limit on genuine founding principles

Treaty of Tripoli; And then we have on the record in a treaty with foreign nations that “the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

also put The nation was not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.

The Treaty of Tripoli rejects Mr Rockwell’s ACTION version but does not necessarily reject Mr. Ding’s historical version. That is unless Mr. Ding intends to restrict all founding principals other than Christian ones. And Mr Ding has indicated that he is not interested in exclusion.

The Treaty of Tripolu verifies and confirms my case that America was not founded as a Christine nation. America is a nation founded with a Constitution and a government that was established to never in its existence pick or choose a religion for the people. It’s called freedom of religion.

It’s an individual’s free decision. Not the decision of the Nation’s majority no matter what religion that might be.

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...
1. America was settled by Christians in the 1600’s.

2. Her people were overwhelmingly Christians from its first settlers and through and beyond her founding.

3. Christian values and principles were imbedded in every aspect of American life from the textbooks used to educate her children through her universities which they graduated from.

4. We even have eyewitness testimony of how Christianity was interwoven into the governorship of its people with the conclusion that that is what made America great.

I have spanked the atheists over the alleged Treaty of Tripoli so many times, my hands hurt just to think about it. I'm amazed you didn't include that in our resident troll's post. He's counting on hiding the fact that the issue was asked and answered. It is either a case of dishonesty OR fear driving the guy. In response to his charge:

According to Frank Lambert, Professor of History at Purdue University, the assurances in Article 11 {this disputed sentence where the Treaty said we were not a Christian nation} were "intended to allay the fears of the Muslim state by insisting that religion would not govern how the treaty was interpreted and enforced."

"... less than a decade later, by another 'Treaty of Peace and Amity,' signed in Tripoli June 4, 1805, in which the clause in question...is omitted."

Stokes, Anson Phelps (1950). Church and State in the United States. New York: Harper and Brothers Publishers. pp. 1:498.

AND the most important reason is WHY WAS A SECOND TREATY REQUIRED? Here is the unadulterated truth:

Treaty of Tripoli Article 11 Christian nation

The key distinction is religion versus values and principles. Our nation was 100% founded on Christian values and principles because it was founded by Christians.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

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23924984

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

That statement is boldly enshrined in a major treaty signed by the President of the newly formed United States and approved by the United States Senate.

23925081 Reply to Post 23924984:

Try to separate religion from values and principles.

America was founded on Christian values and principles because it was founded by Christians.

Let’s be precise as to exactly what it is you wrote in Post 23924666

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

“America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because....” Mr. Ding.

Then we have the title of this thread: “America Founded as a Christian Nation” Mr. Porter Rockwell

And we have post 23899129

America was founded as a Christian nation. .

Mr. Rockwell uses a verb, as in an action was taken to establish a Christian Nation especially with provision for continuing existence.

Mr. Ding used an adjective as In founded on a principle or a set of principles. America was founded on Judeo Christian religious principles and the Enlightenment principle of Separation of Church and State, etc etc. with no limit on genuine founding principles

Treaty of Tripoli; And then we have on the record in a treaty with foreign nations that “the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

also put The nation was not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.

The Treaty of Tripoli rejects Mr Rockwell’s ACTION version but does not necessarily reject Mr. Ding’s historical version. That is unless Mr. Ding intends to restrict all founding principals other than Christian ones. And Mr Ding has indicated that he is not interested in exclusion.

The Treaty of Tripolu verifies and confirms my case that America was not founded as a Christine nation. America is a nation founded with a Constitution and a government that was established to never in its existence pick or choose a religion for the people. It’s called freedom of religion.

It’s an individual’s free decision. Not the decision of the Nation’s majority no matter what religion that might be.

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...
1. America was settled by Christians in the 1600’s.

2. Her people were overwhelmingly Christians from its first settlers and through and beyond her founding.

3. Christian values and principles were imbedded in every aspect of American life from the textbooks used to educate her children through her universities which they graduated from.

4. We even have eyewitness testimony of how Christianity was interwoven into the governorship of its people with the conclusion that that is what made America great.

Your history 1 2 3 & 4 is true.

Now can you Actually reply to the post (23924984) that you selected to for a response?

 

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23925879

23924984

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

That statement is boldly enshrined in a major treaty signed by the President of the newly formed United States and approved by the United States Senate.

23925081 Reply to Post 23924984:

Try to separate religion from values and principles.

America was founded on Christian values and principles because it was founded by Christians.

Let’s be precise as to exactly what it is you wrote in Post 23924666

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

“America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because....” Mr. Ding.

Then we have the title of this thread: “America Founded as a Christian Nation” Mr. Porter Rockwell

And we have post 23899129

America was founded as a Christian nation. .

Mr. Rockwell uses a verb, as in an action was taken to establish a Christian Nation especially with provision for continuing existence.

Mr. Ding used an adjective as In founded on a principle or a set of principles. America was founded on Judeo Christian religious principles and the Enlightenment principle of Separation of Church and State, etc etc. with no limit on genuine founding principles

Treaty of Tripoli; And then we have on the record in a treaty with foreign nations that “the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

also put The nation was not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.

The Treaty of Tripoli rejects Mr Rockwell’s ACTION version but does not necessarily reject Mr. Ding’s historical version. That is unless Mr. Ding intends to restrict all founding principals other than Christian ones. And Mr Ding has indicated that he is not interested in exclusion.

The Treaty of Tripolu verifies and confirms my case that America was not founded as a Christine nation. America is a nation founded with a Constitution and a government that was established to never in its existence pick or choose a religion for the people. It’s called freedom of religion.

It’s an individual’s free decision. Not the decision of the Nation’s majority no matter what religion that might be.

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...
1. America was settled by Christians in the 1600’s.

2. Her people were overwhelmingly Christians from its first settlers and through and beyond her founding.

3. Christian values and principles were imbedded in every aspect of American life from the textbooks used to educate her children through her universities which they graduated from.

4. We even have eyewitness testimony of how Christianity was interwoven into the governorship of its people with the conclusion that that is what made America great.

Your history 1 2 3 & 4 is true.

Now can you Actually reply to the post (23924984) that you selected to for a response?

I'm not using your personal reference numbers, bro.

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values for the reasons you just agreed with.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

23925879

23924984

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

That statement is boldly enshrined in a major treaty signed by the President of the newly formed United States and approved by the United States Senate.

23925081 Reply to Post 23924984:

Try to separate religion from values and principles.

America was founded on Christian values and principles because it was founded by Christians.

Let’s be precise as to exactly what it is you wrote in Post 23924666

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...

“America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because....” Mr. Ding.

Then we have the title of this thread: “America Founded as a Christian Nation” Mr. Porter Rockwell

And we have post 23899129

America was founded as a Christian nation. .

Mr. Rockwell uses a verb, as in an action was taken to establish a Christian Nation especially with provision for continuing existence.

Mr. Ding used an adjective as In founded on a principle or a set of principles. America was founded on Judeo Christian religious principles and the Enlightenment principle of Separation of Church and State, etc etc. with no limit on genuine founding principles

Treaty of Tripoli; And then we have on the record in a treaty with foreign nations that “the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”

also put The nation was not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.

The Treaty of Tripoli rejects Mr Rockwell’s ACTION version but does not necessarily reject Mr. Ding’s historical version. That is unless Mr. Ding intends to restrict all founding principals other than Christian ones. And Mr Ding has indicated that he is not interested in exclusion.

The Treaty of Tripolu verifies and confirms my case that America was not founded as a Christine nation. America is a nation founded with a Constitution and a government that was established to never in its existence pick or choose a religion for the people. It’s called freedom of religion.

It’s an individual’s free decision. Not the decision of the Nation’s majority no matter what religion that might be.

America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values because...
1. America was settled by Christians in the 1600’s.

2. Her people were overwhelmingly Christians from its first settlers and through and beyond her founding.

3. Christian values and principles were imbedded in every aspect of American life from the textbooks used to educate her children through her universities which they graduated from.

4. We even have eyewitness testimony of how Christianity was interwoven into the governorship of its people with the conclusion that that is what made America great.

Your history 1 2 3 & 4 is true.

Now can you Actually reply to the post (23924984) that you selected to for a response?

What are all these numbers you keep posting? Do you have a point to make? Do you have a question?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

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America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values for the reasons you just agreed with.

That history and all your other history and all the indisputable history that many versions of Judeo/Christian religion was the Dominant religion in all thirteen colonies at the time that the United States was founded does not in any way establish that the United States of America was founded as a Christian nation.

You have not responded to one single one of my arguments take explains why, You keep repeating the same hymn as if you are reciting religious dogma with a heavy dose of because quote I say so unquote..

i agreed as I explained that I took your with that you do not exclude all the other non-Christian values and principles that were involved in the founding of America.

Is your word no good?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

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America is considered to be a Christian nation and founded on Christian principles and values for the reasons you just agreed with.

That history and all your other history and all the indisputable history that many versions of Judeo/Christian religion was the Dominant religion in all thirteen colonies at the time that the United States was founded does not in any way establish that the United States of America was founded as a Christian nation.

You have not responded to one single one of my arguments take explains why, You keep repeating the same hymn as if you are reciting religious dogma with a heavy dose of because quote I say so unquote..

i agreed as I explained that I took your with that you do not exclude all the other non-Christian values and principles that were involved in the founding of America.

Is your word no good?

You have droned on incessantly. Since you have disagreed with the basic premise, let's put you on the hotseat.

The earliest state constitutions before, during and after the framers worked out the Constitution required political office holders to take an oath (but no test) that they believed in a Christian God. What other religion in that time period did office holders have to take an oath saying they believed in?

What schools taught something other than Christian principles?

Is it or is it not true that every morning, the Constitutional Convention was started by a prayer - and such prayer was led by a Christian?

What kind of system do you allege our laws are judged by?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

post: 23926068,

According to Frank Lambert, Professor of History at Purdue University, the assurances in Article 11 {this disputed sentence where the Treaty said we were not a Christian nation} were "intended to allay the fears of the Muslim state by insisting that religion would not govern how the treaty was interpreted and enforced."

That does not dispute anything I wrote. If you think it does you will have to explain it in better than your usual general unspecific way.