Amazon labor in New York votes to UNIONIZE and will become a Uinion

[The Sage of Main Street]

Most likely an exception in America of a company that is financially viable enough to be unionized.

Most industry can make the claim that they are not.

There's really no other excuse for not allowing workers to unionize.

But it poses a question: Did the corporations that packed up and went to China, need to do so because they weren't viable if they had to pay American wages?
Or were they still profitable and viable, but went to China for just more profit?

What They Have to Do to Get a Good Job Has Nothing to Do With Doing a Good Job

The third explanation, suppressed by our shallow professional commentators, is that the corpies outsourced because they are mentally inferior, smug, and ignorant.

So they are incapable of making a profit except through low wages. They climb a crooked ladder to get to wherever they wind up in the Terminal Capitalism hierarchy. Birth and brown-nosing, not brains, are rewarded in this collapsing system.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

BREAKING This just in... Amazon moving operations out of New York

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

.....And with the next bunch of blacks they are forced to hire.

Everything the Left Does Serves the Right

That exactly why the plutocrats hired MLK to demand job quotas, to break up the natural racial and union solidarity of the blue-collar Whites, who had created our solid and secure economy previous to his destructive demands. Integration of the workplace caused its disintegration.

 

[blackhawk]

Good luck to them but over the years many of the unions have become no better than those they fight against.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

 

[iceberg]

Union's are a scam and will reduce work place efficiency, causing prices to increase for the consumer. ...

what doesn't cause price increases?

 

[Couchpotato]

What They Have to Do to Get a Good Job Has Nothing to Do With Doing a Good Job

The third explanation, suppressed by our shallow professional commentators, is that the corpies outsourced because they are mentally inferior, smug, and ignorant.

So they are incapable of making a profit except through low wages. They climb a crooked ladder to get to wherever they wind up in the Terminal Capitalism hierarchy. Birth and brown-nosing, not brains, are rewarded in this collapsing system.

I guess. But the consumer is demanding quality goods at a cheap price at the same time that the workers are demanding higher wages something has to give. Amazon's profit margins are less than 3%. They just make a ton of money due to the number of sales they make. How low can their profit margins go before it ceases to be a viable business? They aren't going to keep shipping you shit if they aren't making at least a little bit of money in the bargain.

 

[Donald H]

The American system is corrupt and doesn't take care of the needs of the workers. That at least should be well established by now.
But unfortunately it's not because the workers' heads have been shrunken so they will believe in the system. Just work harder and you too will be one of the very, very wealthy and then you won't give a fk about the peasants

So to break the system, as is now being halfassed experimented with doing, as on Jan.6th., strong unions may be necessary. If it can be accomplished without unions then it's probably going to have to come out of the goodness and generosity of the hearts of the billionaires.
This may take a while? LOL

At least Americans can get to work on the first step and that's getting it into their brains that they actually deserve a piece of the American pie!

I hear some indications of a change of attitudes on this thread, but still at least half are still spewing their brainwashed talking points. Half still don't yet understand that they are *entitled to a share of the tremendous wealth.

* bad lib'rul word

 

[Couchpotato]

The American system is corrupt and doesn't take care of the needs of the workers. That at least should be well established by now.
But unfortunately it's not because the workers' heads have been shrunken so they will believe in the system. Just work harder and you too will be one of the very, very wealthy and then you won't give a fk about the peasants

So to break the system, as is now being halfassed experimented with doing, as on Jan.6th., strong unions may be necessary. If it can be accomplished without unions then it's probably going to have to come out of the goodness and generosity of the hearts of the billionaires.
This may take a while? LOL

At least Americans can get to work on the first step and that's getting it into their brains that they actually deserve a piece of the American pie!

I hear some indications of a change of attitudes on this thread, but still at least half are still spewing their brainwashed talking points. Half still don't yet understand that they are *entitled to a share of the tremendous wealth.

* bad lib'rul word

What's funny is you're saying that everyone is entitled to a share of the weath the system you say is corrupt has generated. There's no indication that if the system were changed to a more socialized type of system that it would generate that kind of wealth or anything near it so while you might get a "bigger share" it will be cut from a much "smaller pie"

 

[Jarlaxle]

Well, I guess this distribution center will be closing.

 

[Donald H]

What's funny is you're saying that everyone is entitled to a share of the weath the system you say is corrupt has generated. There's no indication that if the system were changed to a more socialized type of system that it would generate that kind of wealth or anything near it so while you might get a "bigger share" it will be cut from a much "smaller pie"

America has always had the natural resources it needed to make the 1% or less very wealthy, and that wealth could have been shared around to include a portion to all the people. During much of the time when America was becoming wealthy, some of that wealth was shared. Remember, make America great again. America never stopped being great for the 1%!

And the fact is, America's economy can boom irregardless of whether the working people are getting a part of the wealth. Workers aren't needed for that, except in perhaps the service industries where a few are needed to flip hamburgers, sweep floors, make beds, or whatever.

But you say that the system doesn't need to share the wealth and without sharing the wealth it has not become corrupt?

Could America have not succeeded if it shared the wealth?

Is that the point you're trying to make? If America shared the wealth among all the people, it couldn't have succeeded?

That is still a popular opinion among Americans, as I suggested. Entitled is still a lib'rul dirty word.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

What a conundrum for the democrat party, eh?

Do they try to keep up the appearance that they stand for unions as support for the working man or the one man in the world who was the chief beneficiary of their coordinated attacks against small business?

 

[Donald H]

What a conundrum for the democrat party, eh?

Do they try to keep up the appearance that they stand for unions as support for the working man or the one man in the world who was the chief beneficiary of their coordinated attacks against small business?

The biggest threat to the American way was demonstrated on Jan.6th. by Trump's working class people expressing their views on government being taken down.

Is it still alive and will it become more serious the next time, or is it dead along with Trump?

The D working class are still clinging to the hope that Biden has handed them and are still far from understanding that it ain't comin! Give them two years and many could turn to Trump for their freedom and wellbeing!

Face it, Trump is the only one with a plan to give all Americans affordable health care, without costing the very wealthy insurance companies a dime!

 

[Couchpotato]

America has always had the natural resources it needed to make the 1% or less very wealthy, and that wealth could have been shared around to include a portion to all the people. During much of the time when America was becoming wealthy, some of that wealth was shared. Remember, make America great again. America never stopped being great for the 1%!

And the fact is, America's economy can boom irregardless of whether the working people are getting a part of the wealth. Workers aren't needed for that, except in perhaps the service industries where a few are needed to flip hamburgers, sweep floors, make beds, or whatever.

But you say that the system doesn't need to share the wealth and without sharing the wealth it has not become corrupt?

Could America have not succeeded if it shared the wealth?

Is that the point you're trying to make? If America shared the wealth among all the people, it couldn't have succeeded?

That is still a popular opinion among Americans, as I suggested. Entitled is still a lib'rul dirty word.

By any world standard everyone in the US is wealthy. Get out of the US and you'll understand this. We don't have actual poverty, I don't think most people in the US have any idea what real poverty actually looks like.


All that aside. From what I've been able to see there are about 500 billionaires in the country. But lets say it's 700 and they have on average 5 billion dollars. (that's more than a generous estimate IMO) If we took all their money and divided it up to give everyone an equal part, everyone would get 10k.

Fuck that. You know what lets take the entire GDP of the US and divide it up. 20 trillion dollars. You're share is 57k. Im not sure how we produce all that wealth year in and year out if it just gets divided up evenly, but hey, at least for a year you'd be middle class.....

The government is never going to make you rich off the backs of other people's success. The best thing the government can do is get out of your way. The brilliance of the US is that if you want it you can get it.

 

[justoffal]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Amazon.com Inc. workers at a New York warehouse voted to join an upstart labor union, an historic victory that gives organized labor its first foothold in the company’s U.S. operations and could embolden workers at other employers.

The election at Amazon’s JFK8 fulfillment center in Staten Island wasn’t close, with the Amazon Labor Union winning 2,654 yes votes versus 2,131 no votes for the company. After signing the election results, ALU founder Christian Smalls clapped, pointed his fingers to the sky and raised a fist in triumph.

Great to see Amazon workers getting their due for once. If you remember Alabama tried to unionize in Amazon last year but the vote failed. Thoughts?!

Not a big fan of labor unions I've seen them do nasty things too.

But all the stories I've heard from Amazon employees about managerial abuse including some admissions from Bezos himself about the conditions that they work in.... And well all I can say is they get what they ask for. The employees will now be respected like it or not.

 

[Couchpotato]

America has always had the natural resources it needed to make the 1% or less very wealthy, and that wealth could have been shared around to include a portion to all the people. During much of the time when America was becoming wealthy, some of that wealth was shared. Remember, make America great again. America never stopped being great for the 1%!

And the fact is, America's economy can boom irregardless of whether the working people are getting a part of the wealth. Workers aren't needed for that, except in perhaps the service industries where a few are needed to flip hamburgers, sweep floors, make beds, or whatever.

But you say that the system doesn't need to share the wealth and without sharing the wealth it has not become corrupt?

Could America have not succeeded if it shared the wealth?

Is that the point you're trying to make? If America shared the wealth among all the people, it couldn't have succeeded?

That is still a popular opinion among Americans, as I suggested. Entitled is still a lib'rul dirty word.

Even if we confiscated all the wealth in the US and divided it equally you'd only get about 350k. But that means you own nothing other than that 350k. How long would that money last once you had to start buying all the shit you need to just live day to day. House, car, food etc etc. It'd be gone in less than a year.

 

[Donald H]

Even if we confiscated all the wealth in the US and divided it equally you'd only get about 350k. But that means you own nothing other than that 350k. How long would that money last once you had to start buying all the shit you need to just live day to day. House, car, food etc etc. It'd be gone in less than a year.

Don't start the off topic snivelling to me!
Both D and R working class people are breaking through the fkng smoke screen of lies from government and are starting to do something meaningful about it.
Jan.6th. was a comedy act but it at least attempted to address the real issue.

Take down America's government!

Maybe the Dem supporting patsies will catch up and catch on? Maybe all working people will finally get serious?

 

[Donald H]

By any world standard everyone in the US is wealthy. Get out of the US and you'll understand this. We don't have actual poverty, I don't think most people in the US have any idea what real poverty actually looks like.


All that aside. From what I've been able to see there are about 500 billionaires in the country. But lets say it's 700 and they have on average 5 billion dollars. (that's more than a generous estimate IMO) If we took all their money and divided it up to give everyone an equal part, everyone would get 10k.

Fuck that. You know what lets take the entire GDP of the US and divide it up. 20 trillion dollars. You're share is 57k. Im not sure how we produce all that wealth year in and year out if it just gets divided up evenly, but hey, at least for a year you'd be middle class.....

The government is never going to make you rich off the backs of other people's success. The best thing the government can do is get out of your way. The brilliance of the US is that if you want it you can get it.

Divide up the money in America??

What a fkng schmuck!

Just work a little harder and you will be a billionaire too!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Amazon.com Inc. workers at a New York warehouse voted to join an upstart labor union, an historic victory that gives organized labor its first foothold in the company’s U.S. operations and could embolden workers at other employers.

The election at Amazon’s JFK8 fulfillment center in Staten Island wasn’t close, with the Amazon Labor Union winning 2,654 yes votes versus 2,131 no votes for the company. After signing the election results, ALU founder Christian Smalls clapped, pointed his fingers to the sky and raised a fist in triumph.

Great to see Amazon workers getting their due for once. If you remember Alabama tried to unionize in Amazon last year but the vote failed. Thoughts?!

Amazon will push harder towards automated fulfillment

 

[Couchpotato]

Don't start the off topic snivelling to me!
Both D and R working class people are breaking through the fkng smoke screen of lies from government and are starting to do something meaningful about it.
Jan.6th. was a comedy act but it at least attempted to address the real issue.

Take down America's government!

Maybe the Dem supporting patsies will catch up and catch on? Maybe all working people will finally get serious?

What's off topic? What's the smoke screen? Where's all this money that's going to make everyone rich going to come from? There isnt even enough wealth in the entirety of the US to make everyone "middle class". What you are espousing is a fantasy.