Allowing Gays in the Military Would Be Unfair and Hurt Troop Morale

[rdean]

Excuse the Bass but he hasn't seen any evidence of the military using felons to replace linguists and pilots, especially since both require a security clearance that they most definitely would not receive because of their felonies. Faggots aren't only the ones kicked out for breaking the rules, so you'll have to make a better case than what you've just posted.

Well no shit Sherlock. Because they're "FELONS".

Besides, when someone is kicked out because an "anonymous" person outed them, then he didn't break any rules. Duh!

The Military's Moral Blinders: Criminals Preferred to Fill Ranks Over Gays - The Washington Note

But it goes beyond troops on the front line. The military apparently has little problem putting major weapons systems into the hands of criminals while at the same time discharging Arabic-speaking linguists.

Secretary Rice was whining about the dozens of Arabic linguists the military had lost (kicked out for being gay). Gary Ackerman (D-NY) made the following comment:

"(I)t seems that the military has gone around and fired a whole bunch of people who speak foreign languages -- Farsi and Arabic, etc.," Ackerman said. "For some reason, the military seems more afraid of gay people than they are (of) terrorists, but they're very brave with the terrorists," he continued. "If the terrorists ever got hold of this information, they'd get a platoon of lesbians to chase us out of Baghdad," Ackerman said.

Seems like the OP and some others would run screaming too.

Screaming in voices like little girls with hands wildly waving as if they were "broken at the wrist".

 

[SFC Ollie]

Army, Marines give waivers to more felons

Recruits were allowed to enlist after having been convicted of crimes including assault, burglary, drug possession and making terrorist threats.

Army, Marines give waivers to more felons - CNN.com

WASHINGTON - Under pressure to meet combat needs, the Army and Marine Corps brought in significantly more recruits with felony convictions last year than in 2006, including some with manslaughter and sex crime convictions.

Army, Marines enlisting more felons - Military- msnbc.com

Gidding was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation, but he never served his time. Instead, he shipped out with his unit on active duty.
After arriving in Kuwait, Bob didn't even bother to hide his felony status. According to two other soldiers, he told the entire group and commanding officer about his conviction.

Local Felon Slips Past Military Regulations - cbs5.com

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In the meantime, we have to lose someone such as Lt. Col. Victor Fehrenbach, an F-15E Strike Eagle pilot, the first Air Force pilot in the air after the 9/11 attacks, who also earned nine Air Medals, including one for valor for assaulting an Iraqi ambush position while under heavy anti-aircraft fire during the first days of the invasion.
An anonymous person outed him to the military. He didn't out himself.

Lt. Dan Choi, 28, who majored in Arabic language at West Point
"I have never, ever done anything homosexual while on duty and I never engaged in heterosexual conduct while on duty because the army is not about sexual anything," he said. "I had never had a boyfriend or girlfriend because of 'Don't Ask Don't Tell.'"

Knights Out is an organization of West Point Alumni
Our members include former West Point professors, Rhodes Scholars, decorated combat veterans from the Vietnam War, Iraq and Afghanistan, peacekeepers who served in Haiti and Bosnia, men and women from the first co-ed class (1980), an ordained minister, and many others who are coming out from their silence to serve their country in a new way.

A study group of Flag and General Officers which took a year to assess all of the evidence on "don't ask, don't tell" found that commanders in Iraq are ignoring the policy and choosing to keep their teams together rather than firing loyal gay troops. A recent Military Times poll confirms that many commanders know of gays and lesbians serving in their units, but choose not to discharge them.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/milit...ed-gens-to-build-a-case-against-the-gays.html

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Nasty ass Bass has to kiss my........................

Excuse the Bass but he hasn't seen any evidence of the military using felons to replace linguists and pilots, especially since both require a security clearance that they most definitely would not receive because of their felonies. Faggots aren't only the ones kicked out for breaking the rules, so you'll have to make a better case than what you've just posted.

Well no shit Sherlock. Because they're "FELONS".

Besides, when someone is kicked out because an "anonymous" person outed them, then he didn't break any rules. Duh!

The Military's Moral Blinders: Criminals Preferred to Fill Ranks Over Gays - The Washington Note

But it goes beyond troops on the front line. The military apparently has little problem putting major weapons systems into the hands of criminals while at the same time discharging Arabic-speaking linguists.

Secretary Rice was whining about the dozens of Arabic linguists the military had lost (kicked out for being gay). Gary Ackerman (D-NY) made the following comment:

"(I)t seems that the military has gone around and fired a whole bunch of people who speak foreign languages -- Farsi and Arabic, etc.," Ackerman said. "For some reason, the military seems more afraid of gay people than they are (of) terrorists, but they're very brave with the terrorists," he continued. "If the terrorists ever got hold of this information, they'd get a platoon of lesbians to chase us out of Baghdad," Ackerman said.

Yawn! The regulations are the regulations. The law is the law. If it should change then we will see who is right or wrong. As it stands, Don't Ask and Don't tell. IMHO it would be a shame to change something that seems to work best for all concerned.

 

[rdean]

Seems to be working? Except when gay haters do "witch hunts". Or when someone sends an "anonymous message".

Why the "fear"?

 

[SFC Ollie]

rdean,

STFU

 

[Article 15]

I've decided to debanninate the Bass. While he should have listened and knows better, it isn't a good idea for me to moderate a thread I am an active participant in.

 

[rdean]

rdean,

STFU

Kiss.

 

[SFC Ollie]

No thanks your face is in the way

 

[bodecea]

Excuse the Bass but he hasn't seen any evidence of the military using felons to replace linguists and pilots, especially since both require a security clearance that they most definitely would not receive because of their felonies. Faggots aren't only the ones kicked out for breaking the rules, so you'll have to make a better case than what you've just posted.

Well no shit Sherlock. Because they're "FELONS".

Besides, when someone is kicked out because an "anonymous" person outed them, then he didn't break any rules. Duh!

The Military's Moral Blinders: Criminals Preferred to Fill Ranks Over Gays - The Washington Note

But it goes beyond troops on the front line. The military apparently has little problem putting major weapons systems into the hands of criminals while at the same time discharging Arabic-speaking linguists.

Secretary Rice was whining about the dozens of Arabic linguists the military had lost (kicked out for being gay). Gary Ackerman (D-NY) made the following comment:

"(I)t seems that the military has gone around and fired a whole bunch of people who speak foreign languages -- Farsi and Arabic, etc.," Ackerman said. "For some reason, the military seems more afraid of gay people than they are (of) terrorists, but they're very brave with the terrorists," he continued. "If the terrorists ever got hold of this information, they'd get a platoon of lesbians to chase us out of Baghdad," Ackerman said.

Yawn! The regulations are the regulations. The law is the law. If it should change then we will see who is right or wrong. As it stands, Don't Ask and Don't tell. IMHO it would be a shame to change something that seems to work best for all concerned.

Speaking for Gay Service members now, Ollie?

 

[bodecea]

rdean,

STFU

Ah yes...you want to silence people when you can't control them...or else you run away with your hands over your ears.


Somewhat cowardly of you.

 

[elvis]

rdean,

STFU

Kiss.

your boyfriend know you post his picture on here, you stupid ****?

 

[bodecea]

No thanks your face is in the way

BTW...Thank you for posting a easy to read list of those posters you are afraid of.

 

[rdean]

rdean,

STFU

Kiss.

your boyfriend know you post his picture on here, you stupid ****?

Your girlfriend wearing your cock ring.

 

[elvis]

Kiss.

your boyfriend know you post his picture on here, you stupid ****?

Your girlfriend wearing your cock ring.

you made it a whole two posts without saying the word republican. how did you did that, daft ****?

 

[rdean]

your boyfriend know you post his picture on here, you stupid ****?

Your girlfriend wearing your cock ring.

you made it a whole two posts without saying the word republican. how did you did that, daft ****?

Because it was obvious I was talking to Republicans.

 

[elvis]

Your girlfriend wearing your cock ring.

you made it a whole two posts without saying the word republican. how did you did that, daft ****?

Because it was obvious I was talking to Republicans.

two is the limit, eh daft ****?

 

[Luissa]

you made it a whole two posts without saying the word republican. how did you did that, daft ****?

Because it was obvious I was talking to Republicans.

two is the limit, eh daft ****?

YOu said ****!

 

[maineman]

Civilians using their agenda to conduct military business without consulting with commanders and NCOs is the reason this current military is a cluster fart, You don't learn from anything do you?


Not to long before the Iraq war, it was said that former Army General Eric Shinseki told Donald Rumsfeld that the mission he(Rumsfeld) wanted in Iraq would require more troops and a long occupation to accomplish its old, but just like the micro-managing civilian jackass he was Rumsfeld ignored Shinseki and all the other experienced generals and forced them out of the military and did the exact opposite which created the quagmire in Iraq. After so many lost lives they ended using "surges" to solve the problem till it got so damn bad Rumsfeld had to go. Thats what happens when stupid civilians ignore officers and NCOs do what they feel is best with a set of crony "yessir" generals.


Don'tr sit up here and run off at the damn mouth about "civilian" authority over the military you retard, because if they don't cooperate in some way with those in uniform in doing assessments a debacle is imminent. Its rare that they act without taking into consideration what the troops say.

and you think that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff doesn't wear the uniform?

And you are showing what a moron you are if you think that the national military command authority takes into consideration what rank and file troops have to say about possible policy changes prior to implementation.

 

[elvis]

Because it was obvious I was talking to Republicans.

two is the limit, eh daft ****?

YOu said ****!

so did you.

 

[actsnoblemartin]

How silly is it, that 5 year old tactics, of he acts gay can still be used, in the military of all places

quite a disgrace/shame in my opinion

If they were REALLY ALPHA MALES, they wouldn't give a damn.

It's you boys who aren't quite sure of your own hetero instincts who are homophoboic morons.

You don't have the right to question my sexuality and I'm more than secure enough in my own heterosexual instincts. If homosexuals were really dedicated about serving their country they wouldn't put so much of an emphasis on DADT.

We have as much right to question your sexuality as you have questioning our right to serve.

Speaking of which...what if you ARE accused of being gay in the military. Are you prepared to be hoisted on your own petard if someone makes such an accusation?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Civilians using their agenda to conduct military business without consulting with commanders and NCOs is the reason this current military is a cluster fart, You don't learn from anything do you?


Not to long before the Iraq war, it was said that former Army General Eric Shinseki told Donald Rumsfeld that the mission he(Rumsfeld) wanted in Iraq would require more troops and a long occupation to accomplish its old, but just like the micro-managing civilian jackass he was Rumsfeld ignored Shinseki and all the other experienced generals and forced them out of the military and did the exact opposite which created the quagmire in Iraq. After so many lost lives they ended using "surges" to solve the problem till it got so damn bad Rumsfeld had to go. Thats what happens when stupid civilians ignore officers and NCOs do what they feel is best with a set of crony "yessir" generals.


Don'tr sit up here and run off at the damn mouth about "civilian" authority over the military you retard, because if they don't cooperate in some way with those in uniform in doing assessments a debacle is imminent. Its rare that they act without taking into consideration what the troops say.

and you think that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff doesn't wear the uniform?

And you are showing what a moron you are if you think that the national military command authority takes into consideration what rank and file troops have to say about possible policy changes prior to implementation.

I believe on this matter they will listen to the rank and file. They will at least do several studies about what they think. If they don't they are being very stupid.