I mean, the two men in the truck were terrorizing the jogger. He likely was scared. He should have been scared given their menacing threats. Arbery was trying to defend himself....to keep the murderous assailant from aiming the gun at his head and blowing it off.
It didn't turn out well, of course.
But Arbery likely felt it is either I try to defend myself or these crackers are gonna do a 'gun-lynching' on me.
Seems like a reasonable conclusion given the violent behavior of the assailants.
If someone was pointing a shotgun at me, I sure as hell wouldn't have gotten into a wrestling match with them. Yes the racists are at fault, but tell that to the undertaker when he's prepping your body.
True that, but once they set out after him, he should have stood down, and waited to explain things to the cops.
Yeah, it sucked, the whole situation sucked, but the dude would have lived to tell the story had he not allowed his ego and testosterone to get the better of him.
Yeah, it sucked, the whole situation sucked, but the dude would have lived to tell the story had he not allowed his ego and testosterone to get the better of him.
They thought he might be responsible for some break-ins in their neighborhood, and I can just about guarantee you they would have simply held him until police arrived. Shooting an unarmed dude that was not fighting you would have not made any sense. Once the dude started fighting, everything changed, and he's in the ground today taking his dirt nap because he decided to go the route he did.
It's not fair, but when you try and wrestle a shotgun away, bad things are going to happen to someone, and he was the 'someone' in this case.
True that, but once they set out after him, he should have stood down, and waited to explain things to the cops.
Yeah, it sucked, the whole situation sucked, but the dude would have lived to tell the story had he not allowed his ego and testosterone to get the better of him.
They thought he might be responsible for some break-ins in their neighborhood, and I can just about guarantee you they would have simply held him until police arrived. Shooting an unarmed dude that was not fighting you would have not made any sense. Once the dude started fighting, everything changed, and he's in the ground today taking his dirt nap because he decided to go the route he did.
It's not fair, but when you try and wrestle a shotgun away, bad things are going to happen to someone, and he was the 'someone' in this case.
No thefts from that constuction job. But I read that there had been burglaries from homes. I'll try to find the link. Okay, I've looked. No burglaries in the area, plural. But a burglary, singular. (Of a firearm from the trunk of a car.)
These men made a bad error of judgement, no doubt reinforced by the racial prejudice -- pre-judgement -- that every single person reading this, who's an American, has some of, and they probably have a lot of. The racial pre-judgement that means that every liberal/progressive (and conservative/patriot) reading this would fail -- the 'feel relieved test' that I often propose to self-righteous whites: you're walking down a lonely street at night, hear footsteps behind you, turn around, and feel a sense of relief that you're being followed by whites.
More than that, they were Georgia whites, from the non-college class, and didn't have the layer of (necessary and good) hypocrisy that both Blacks and whites have when dealing with each other.
Here's how to be honest about this case, whichever side you're on: had this been a white boy jogging through a Black neighborhood, in the identical circumstances -- Blacks trying to make a citizens'' arrest, he tries to grab the shotgun, is killed -- would they be sent to prison for life in America today?
Of course not. (A hundred years ago in Georgia they would have been lynched, of course. And probably some people on the Left think, 'Turn about is fair play' -- in fact, the original poster exults at the idea of one of imprisoned men being murdered in a prison hospital. But if anyone thinks the 'terms of oppression' are going to be reversed in America, please think again. )
These men should have known the law. But ... it turns out, that the (now repealed) law regarding citizens' arrests in Georgia was apparently poorly written, and ambiguous.
Of course the Left are happy to see working class whites who don't like Leftist politics sent to prison, or killed. That's not going to change. It's just old fashioned class prejudice. So we will see more of this.
What patriots have to do is, first of all, if you're going to have a firearm and be willing to use it, learn the law. There are some people who think they can bring their AR15 to an Anti-Fa riot and if the rioters attack them, they can just shoot in self-defense. Well, Kyle Rittenhouse got lucky: there are probably some honest liberals in Wisconsin. But don't count on it happening again.
They thought he might be responsible for some break-ins in their neighborhood, and I can just about guarantee you they would have simply held him until police arrived.
You can't guarantee a damn thing, you were not there so you don't know what the hell was being said. How many folks grab guns and jump in their vehicles chasing someone they THOUGHT may have committed a crime. You would call the police and let them go after someone.
Shooting an unarmed dude that was not fighting you would have not made any sense. Once the dude started fighting, everything changed, and he's in the ground today taking his dirt nap because he decided to go the route he did.
No thefts from that constuction job. But I read that there had been burglaries from homes. I'll try to find the link. Okay, I've looked. No burglaries in the area, plural. But a burglary, singular. (Of a firearm from the trunk of a car.)
These men made a bad error of judgement, no doubt reinforced by the racial prejudice -- pre-judgement -- that every single person reading this, who's an American, has some of, and they probably have a lot of. The racial pre-judgement that means that every liberal/progressive (and conservative/patriot) reading this would fail the 'feel relieved test' that I often to self-righteous whites: you're walking down a lonely street at night, hear footsteps behind you, turn around, and feel a sense of relief that you're being followed by whites.
More than that, they were Georgia whites, from the non-college class, and didn't have the layer of (necessary and good) hypocrisy that both Blacks and whites have when dealing with each other.
Here's how to be honest about this case, whichever side you're on: had this been a white boy jogging through a Black neighborhood, in the identical circumstances -- Blacks trying to make a citizens'' arrest, he tries to grab the shotgun, is killed -- would they be sent to prison for life in America today? Of course not. (A hundred years ago in Georgia they would have been lynched, of course. And probably some people on the Left think, 'Turn about is fair play' -- in fact, the original poster exults at the idea of one of imprisoned men being murdered in a prison hospital. But if anyone thinks the 'terms of oppression' are going to be reversed in America, please think again. )
These men should have known the law. But ... it turns out, that the (now repealed) law regarding citizens' arrests in Georgia was apparently poorly written, and ambiguous.
Of course the Left are happy to see working class whites who don't like Leftist politics sent to prison, or killed. That's not going to change. It's just old fashioned class prejudice. So we will see more of this.
What patriots have to do is, first of all, if you're going to have a firearm and be willing to use it, learn the law. There are some people who think they can bring their AR15 to an Anti-Fa riot and if the rioters attack them, they can just shoot in self-defense. Well, Kyle Rittenhouse got lucky: there are probably some honest liberals in Wisconsin. But don't count on it happening again.
I mean, the two men in the truck were terrorizing the jogger. He likely was scared. He should have been scared given their menacing threats. Arbery was trying to defend himself....to keep the murderous assailant from aiming the gun at his head and blowing it off.
It didn't turn out well, of course.
But Arbery likely felt it is either I try to defend myself or these crackers are gonna do a 'gun-lynching' on me.
Seems like a reasonable conclusion given the violent behavior of the assailants.
Think about this. If Aubrey was so sure they were out to kill him, why would you even consider jogging through a neighborhood like that?
If I was so paranoid that white people were out to get me, I would definitely have chosen a different neighborhood to do my jogging in.
It's not fair, it's not right, he didn't deserve what happen to him, but he could have had more control of the situation had he simply let these inbreds have their moment of "glory" and just stopped and waited.
This is 2023 not 1823, the likelihood that these yahoos would have shot him for no other reason than they thought he was casing the neighborhood is highly unlikely.
