MAGA: Credit Where Credit is Due

Mac1958

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While I'm against crisis government -- this current hostage-taking of the debt ceiling is the latest example -- I'll definitely give this crop of Republicans credit for appearing to finally be serious about spending. At least some of them.

I've been saying all along that all the Republicans have to do is cut spending first, THEN cut taxes. For a change. Show us where you would cut, and by how much. Then, if the American electorate chooses to keep you in office after those cuts, you win. It's pretty much that simple.

If you're really going to cut spending, you absolutely have to look at the military and entitlements. Cutting here and there around the edges will not be enough. So this will necessarily mean cuts in Social Security benefits (at some point), Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

So, you've gone this far. Now, those legislators who are pushing this need to get specific. Show us the numbers, the cuts, the timeline. We need clarity. Maybe you'll come up with some good ideas. Maybe you'll get some Democrats to take notice.

Enough sloganeering and generalizations. Show us what you would do.
 
Another round of tax cuts for the billionaires will take care of the problem.
 

While I'm against crisis government -- this current hostage-taking of the debt ceiling is the latest example -- I'll definitely give this crop of Republicans credit for appearing to finally be serious about spending. At least some of them.

I've been saying all along that all the Republicans have to do is cut spending first, THEN cut taxes. For a change. Show us where you would cut, and by how much. Then, if the American electorate chooses to keep you in office after those cuts, you win. It's pretty much that simple.

If you're really going to cut spending, you absolutely have to look at the military and entitlements. Cutting here and there around the edges will not be enough. So this will necessarily mean cuts in Social Security benefits (at some point), Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

So, you've gone this far. Now, those legislators who are pushing this need to get specific. Show us the numbers, the cuts, the timeline. We need clarity. Maybe you'll come up with some good ideas. Maybe you'll get some Democrats to take notice.

Enough sloganeering and generalizations. Show us what you would do.
85000 IRS officers might be good place to start. Govt agency bloat needs attn first across the board.
 
If you're really going to cut spending, you absolutely have to look at the military and entitlements. Cutting here and there around the edges will not be enough. So this will necessarily mean cuts in Social Security benefits (at some point), Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Republicans only want to cut spending on social programs
Democrats insist on equal cuts to military and social programs

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are Third Rail Cuts

I don’t think we will ever reach an agreement
 
If you're really going to cut spending, you absolutely have to look at the military and entitlements. Cutting here and there around the edges will not be enough. So this will necessarily mean cuts in Social Security benefits (at some point), Medicare, Medicaid, etc.
You do realize the MAGA crowd's icon had our debt go from 17 to some 30 odd Trillion (with a T) dollars in a very short time Mac

This was due to Trump cranking up the Fed's printing press to warp 9, and handing $$$$ like candy

Which has not stopped with his replacement Biden

Essentially our idiot government , in their infinite wisdom to save us from ourselves created a socialist economy

And you're RX is to take the food (that we've paid for) out of our seniors mouths?

Good lord!

~S~
 

While I'm against crisis government -- this current hostage-taking of the debt ceiling is the latest example -- I'll definitely give this crop of Republicans credit for appearing to finally be serious about spending. At least some of them.

I've been saying all along that all the Republicans have to do is cut spending first, THEN cut taxes. For a change. Show us where you would cut, and by how much. Then, if the American electorate chooses to keep you in office after those cuts, you win. It's pretty much that simple.

If you're really going to cut spending, you absolutely have to look at the military and entitlements. Cutting here and there around the edges will not be enough. So this will necessarily mean cuts in Social Security benefits (at some point), Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

So, you've gone this far. Now, those legislators who are pushing this need to get specific. Show us the numbers, the cuts, the timeline. We need clarity. Maybe you'll come up with some good ideas. Maybe you'll get some Democrats to take notice.

Enough sloganeering and generalizations. Show us what you would do.
All Republican need to do is what they always do

Cave and take the blame

Assume the position McCarthy.
 
Republicans only want to cut spending on social programs
Democrats insist on equal cuts to military and social programs

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are Third Rail Cuts

I don’t think we will ever reach an agreement
Well, that's the thing. They have to go there.

Personally, I think we could make improvements to Medicare (actually the macro health system) and Social Security (the tweaks are pretty finite and obvious) without much pain. The challenge would be in getting input from both parties so that they both have skin in the game.

And that's where we run off the rails.
 
every year i read the US govt takes in a record amount of taxes....so what do they need an extra 75 thousand agents for?...it seems like they are doing pretty good without these extra agents...
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They're for dealing with the slaves who don't like being slaves. The ones who might get a little uppity.




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While I'm against crisis government -- this current hostage-taking of the debt ceiling is the latest example -- I'll definitely give this crop of Republicans credit for appearing to finally be serious about spending. At least some of them.

I've been saying all along that all the Republicans have to do is cut spending first, THEN cut taxes. For a change. Show us where you would cut, and by how much. Then, if the American electorate chooses to keep you in office after those cuts, you win. It's pretty much that simple.

If you're really going to cut spending, you absolutely have to look at the military and entitlements. Cutting here and there around the edges will not be enough. So this will necessarily mean cuts in Social Security benefits (at some point), Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

So, you've gone this far. Now, those legislators who are pushing this need to get specific. Show us the numbers, the cuts, the timeline. We need clarity. Maybe you'll come up with some good ideas. Maybe you'll get some Democrats to take notice.

Enough sloganeering and generalizations. Show us what you would do.
Start by cutting the entire budget 10%.
 
If you're really going to cut spending, you absolutely have to look at the military and entitlements. Cutting here and there around the edges will not be enough. So this will necessarily mean cuts in Social Security benefits (at some point), Medicare, Medicaid, etc.
What about cutting the size of government? Why are Federal jobs a sacred cow? The Federal payroll is bloated beyond belief and then consider the ever growing number of Federal PENSIONERS on top of current payroll. How about cutting foreign aid especially to countries that are funneling millions of immigrants to our border? I have no problem defunding the proxy war in Ukraine and there are some defense programs that could probably be cut.
 
every year i read the US govt takes in a record amount of taxes....so what do they need an extra 75 thousand agents for?...it seems like they are doing pretty good without these extra agents...

Why?

Because funding for IRS agents has been cut for decades. Existing agents cannot keep up with the workload. Tax Returns without glaring flaws get rubber stamped.
 
What about cutting the size of government? Why are Federal jobs a sacred cow? The Federal payroll is bloated beyond belief and then consider the ever growing number of Federal PENSIONERS on top of current payroll. How about cutting foreign aid especially to countries that are funneling millions of immigrants to our border? I have no problem defunding the proxy war in Ukraine and there are some defense programs that could probably be cut.

The size of the Federal Government has been stagnant for decades.

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good....let them concentrate on the big money makers and leave the rest of us alone...

They do

Lets face it, yours and my tax returns are pretty boring.
We have set, reportable incomes.
Our deductions are pretty limited.

Little to audit.
 
every year i read the US govt takes in a record amount of taxes....so what do they need an extra 75 thousand agents for?...it seems like they are doing pretty good without these extra agents...
The agents are part of the Democrat war on the middle class and will used against small business owners.

You absolutely know they are not going to be used against the obscenely wealthy technocrats who control the Democrat party.
 

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