After WWII, three countries tried Socialism and rejected it.

[Flash]

 

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[Donald H]

Cuba was quite literally a tropical paradise until Castro showed up. The Cuban people have suffered ever since. Venezuela was doing fine until they nationalized their major industries. Your attempt to derail the discussion down a J6 rabbit hole is respectfully ignored.

Cuba was an evil dictatorship controlled by America's mafia, and that caused a successful revolution. Bone up on the history of the Batista regime if you want to be taken seriously.

Venezuela's nationalizing of their oil resources can't be blamed for their problems but you could certainly attempt to explain how it could?

Seriously now mike, why did the US react so violently against Hugo nationalizing his country's oil resources? Any notion at all on how that played against US interests?


In fact, America's reaction to Venezuela protecting their people's resources was the cause of their problems. You might try to understand how that was the real reason for America's wars on Iraq?

Unpleasant fact is mike, oil rich countries become prosperous countries if they possess the power to control their own destinies.

 

[Donald H]

You don't know anything about Cuba or Venezuela. Read some history.

Corrupt capitalist dictators embezzled a lot of money

Venezuela: The Rise and Fall of a Petrostate

Venezuela’s ongoing descent into economic and political chaos is a cautionary tale of the dangerous influence that resource wealth can have on developing countries.

www.cfr.org

It's an opportune time to hold mike's feet to the fire! He/she is barking up a tree that won't sustain the attempts to distort the facts.

Upholding the Batista regime???
Really??
Maybe not a wise choice for a talking point? LOL

 

[surada]

Cuba was an evil dictatorship controlled by America's mafia, and that caused a successful revolution. Bone up on the history of the Batista regime if you want to be taken seriously.

Venezuela's nationalizing of their oil resources can't be blamed for their problems but you could certainly attempt to explain how it could?

Seriously now mike, why did the US react so violently against Hugo nationalizing his country's oil resources? Any notion at all on how that played against US interests?


In fact, America's reaction to Venezuela protecting their people's resources was the cause of their problems. You might try to understand how that was the real reason for America's wars on Iraq?

Unpleasant fact is mike, oil rich countries become prosperous countries if they possess the power to control their own destinies.

Venezuela nationalized oil in 1976.

 

[Donald H]

Venezuela nationalized oil in 1976.

That 'does' pose some problems for mike's theory!
I think he's decided this one's going to be a 'hit and run'.

 

[Delldude]

Exactly. The point here is that the same idiots who claim socialism is bad, live in states that practice socialism.

I live in NJ. We get .75c for each dollar we send to Washington! Compare that with Mississippi which gets $2.53 in federal funding or Alabama which gets $1.25. (New Jersey is one of thirteen states that actually receives less from Washington, D.C. than it contributes.)

And yet, I'll bet both Mississippi & Alabama are chock-full of idiots who will decry socialism!!!

How's the population density between states you cite?

 

[Magnus]

Try to rise above a kneejerk reaction to what the ignorant swine spew back at you.

You're right. I should do better. But it's hard not to.

 

[Magnus]

How's the population density between states you cite?

You tell me. I have done enough spoon feeding and now it's your turn. Go ahead and make a case (with facts, mind you) disputing what I have posted so far. Go.

Btw, I am still waiting for the other dude (MarathonMike) to prove me wrong. He started the thread and became MIA when he got challenged. Don't be like him.

 

[Delldude]

You tell me. I have done enough spoon feeding and now it's your turn. Go ahead and make a case (with facts, mind you) disputing what I have posted so far. Go.

Btw, I am still waiting for the other dude (MarathonMike) to prove me wrong. He started the thread and became MIA when he got challenged. Don't be like him.

The population density is much higher in NJ than the southern states. Duh, that's the reason for your claimed disparity in fed tax disbursements.

 

[Magnus]

The population density is much higher in NJ than the southern states. Duh, that's the reason for your claimed disparity in fed tax disbursements.

Duh. Not always.

Take the example of North Carolina. Red State. Population: 10,600,823 vs NJ Blue state Population: 8,882,371.

North Carolina gets back $1.27 vs New Jersey which only gets back .75c from Washington.

And how about Connecticut? That state gets even lower money back from DC than New Jersey. The population of CT is far lower than many of the Southern states.

But even if we go with your premise that population figures are the reason why Southern states get more money back from DC... it still comes back to why the heck should I living in NJ allow my fed tax dollars to subsidize Southern states?

Is it my fault that one would rather live in NJ than in the God-forsaken southern states?

And that brings us back to this thread. My Fed dollars are subsidizing Southern states. Southern states are run by Republicans who have no shame accepting Fed dollars on the one hand but loudly decrying Socialism on the other.

That, my friend, is the height of Socialist hypocrisy. The next time, you idiots run a thread decrying Socialism, try to understand that it is you, idiots, on the right that are perpetuating Socialism, not the Democrats.

Class dismissed.

 

[Delldude]

Duh. Not always.

Take the example of North Carolina. Red State. Population: 10,600,823 vs NJ Blue state Population: 8,882,371.

North Carolina gets back $1.27 vs New Jersey which only gets back .75c from Washington.

And how about Connecticut? That state gets even lower money back from DC than New Jersey. The population of CT is far lower than many of the Southern states.

But even if we go with your premise that population figures are the reason why Southern states get more money back from DC... it still comes back to why the heck should I living in NJ allow my fed tax dollars to subsidize Southern states?

Is it my fault that one would rather live in NJ than in the God-forsaken southern states?

And that brings us back to this thread. My Fed dollars are subsidizing Southern states. Southern states are run by Republicans who have no shame accepting Fed dollars on the one hand but loudly decrying Socialism on the other.

That, my friend, is the height of Socialist hypocrisy. The next time, you idiots run a thread decrying Socialism, try to understand that it is you, idiots, on the right that are perpetuating Socialism, not the Democrats.

Class dismissed.

You cited Alabama and New Jersey, respectively.

Bu-bu-bu-but...

 

[Magnus]

You cited Alabama and New Jersey, respectively.

Bu-bu-bu-but...

bu-bu-bu what? We should only use Alabama and NJ and ignore all the other states that do not fit your preconceived notions?

LOL and you retards wonder why no one takes you seriously.

 

[metalwolf]

Isn't Vietnam Socialist?

 

[Delldude]

bu-bu-bu what? We should only use Alabama and NJ and ignore all the other states that do not fit your preconceived notions?

LOL and you retards wonder why no one takes you seriously.

You pointed out those two....as examples. I pointed out your failing in comparison.

 

[Magnus]

You pointed out those two....as examples. I pointed out your failing in comparison.

Yes, in the interest of time and understanding I used 2 states as an example. My state of NJ and Alabama.

But... we do have more than 2 states in our Union. And your comparison fails when it is applied to all of them.

What part of that is it hard for you to understand?

 

[Delldude]

Yes, in the interest of time and understanding I used 2 states as an example. My state of NJ and Alabama.

But... we do have more than 2 states in our Union. And your comparison fails when it is applied to all of them.

What part of that is it hard for you to understand?

So you got caught mousing the facts.

 

[Magnus]

So you got caught mousing the facts.

Mousing? As in proving that you are a retard? Guilty as charged.

But keep coming back here. The more you help to keep this thread active, the more people can see how I have humiliated you, idiots.

Much appreciated. Y'all come back now, you hear...

 

[TNHarley]

Socialism cant work in a country like America. Way too many people. Way too many worthless sheep
And just think about the massive centralized power it takes.
If that doesnt scare you, you are a goddamn idiot.

 

[Delldude]

Mousing? As in proving that you are a retard? Guilty as charged.

But keep coming back here. The more you help to keep this thread active, the more people can see how I have humiliated you, idiots.

Much appreciated. Y'all come back now, you hear...

Oh no...an internet bully.