Adding to the debate about whether we are in a constitutional crisis.

A federal judge intends to press the Trump administration on whether it violated his order on deportation flights.


A federal judge in Washington plans to press the Trump administration at a hearing on Monday about whether it has violated an order he issued barring officials from removing any detained noncitizens — including several suspected Venezuelan gang members — from the country with little or no due process.

The hearing was scheduled by the judge, James E. Boasberg, even as President Trump’s so-called border czar, Tom Homan, made defiant remarks on television, indicating that the administration planned to continue such deportations despite the court’s order — an action that could thrust the country into a constitutional crisis, pitting one of the coequal branches of the government against another.

“We’re not stopping,” Mr. Homan said Monday, during an appearance on Fox News. “I don’t care what the judges think, I don’t care what the left thinks. We’re coming.”


That's the definition of a constitutional crisis. The kind of remark that should get Homan fired.
Exactly

They are ignoring the law and dare anyone to do anything about it
 

A federal judge intends to press the Trump administration on whether it violated his order on deportation flights.


A federal judge in Washington plans to press the Trump administration at a hearing on Monday about whether it has violated an order he issued barring officials from removing any detained noncitizens — including several suspected Venezuelan gang members — from the country with little or no due process.

The hearing was scheduled by the judge, James E. Boasberg, even as President Trump’s so-called border czar, Tom Homan, made defiant remarks on television, indicating that the administration planned to continue such deportations despite the court’s order — an action that could thrust the country into a constitutional crisis, pitting one of the coequal branches of the government against another.

“We’re not stopping,” Mr. Homan said Monday, during an appearance on Fox News. “I don’t care what the judges think, I don’t care what the left thinks. We’re coming.”


That's the definition of a constitutional crisis. The kind of remark that should get Homan fired.
Was it a constitutional crisis when Biden ignored his SC bitchslapping on student loan transfers?
 
The judiciary doesn’t decide Executive powers, idiot. The Constitution does.

What a clown. :auiqs.jpg:
When there is a difference in stakeholders' interpretation of the constitution who gets to decide? The president? Fuck off. The Judiciary.
 
The President cant decide what his powers are... only the Judiciary can. If he doesnt like the rulings then he cant appoint different judges over time. That's the game.
There are accepted and long established executive powers that are recognized by everyone. Until of course, Trump is elected and the hate cult steps in.

No where did this judge establish that Trump was acting outside the Constitution nor outside his recognized and established authority.

Hell, no where did the Judge even establish that the States even have standing in this matter. The people being deported are NOT US citizens and NOT citizens of their respective States. They are criminals being deported for their criminal activity.

Or are you going to claim that the President does not have the authority to deport criminals of other nations from our country?

Good fucking God you people are insane.
 
Yes, he can do what he is doing since he is implementing executive powers. The hack judge is a moron.
That isnt your role to decide that nor is it Trump's role. He has to listen to the judge's ruling or go to court and appeal. Ignoring courts is not an option.
 
There are accepted and long established executive powers that are recognized by everyone. Until of course, Trump is elected and the hate cult steps in.

No where did this judge establish that Trump was acting outside the Constitution nor outside his recognized and established authority.

Hell, no where did the Judge even establish that the States even have standing in this matter. The people being deported are NOT US citizens and NOT citizens of their respective States. They are criminals, being reported for their criminal activity.

Or are you going to claim that the President does not have the authority to deport criminals of other nations from our country?

Good fucking God you people are insane.
You dont get to decide that. Neither does Trump. He has to abide by the ruling and appeal just like an normal person. You know that. Or are you a fascist pig?
 
That isnt your role to decide that nor is it Trump's role. He has to listen to the judge's ruling or go to court and appeal. Ignoring courts is not an option.
Trump is very good at appealing court decisions and stretching things out
 
You dont get to decide that. Neither does Trump. He has to abide by the ruling and appeal just like an normal person. You know that. Or are you a fascist pig?
In fact, HE DOES! That is like saying that Trump cannot nominate his cabinet because someone my disagree with the choice.
 
Who gets to decide that? You? Trump? Or another court?
The fucking law establishes that. No judge can just arbitrarily say, I get to decide. That is like saying that the Judge gets to decide who the Presdients advisors are.

The lines of authority are clear and well-defined. It is only the hate cult that wants to stop it.

I don't really give a fuck at any rate. Why? Because he's done it and there isn't thing one that can be done to stop it.
 
In fact, HE DOES! That is like saying that Trump cannot nominate his cabinet because someone my disagree with the choice.
No. If Trump nominates a spider monkey for a cabinet post and a court ruled Trump cant nominate a monkey then Trump can appeal all the way up to the SCOTUS. Their decision is binding. If they tell him monkeys cannot be cabinet members then he has to follow that. You know how this works.
 
The fucking law establishes that. No judge can just arbitrarily say, I get to decide. That is like saying that the Judge gets to decide who the Presdients advisors are.

The lines of authority are clear and well-defined. It is only the hate cult that wants to stop it.

I don't really give a fuck at any rate. Why? Because he's done it and there isn't thing one that can be done to stop it.
When there is a dispute over what the law says who gets to decide? Its the court. If Biden was defying courts saying what he is doing was illegal you'd be pissed. Be a good American not a good Trumpian.
 

White House touts deportation of alleged gang members that court ordered returned to US​

President Donald Trump’s White House is celebrating his use of a rarely invoked wartime authority to carry out the mass deportation of hundreds of alleged gang members to El Salvador in an episode that fueled doubts about the ability of the U.S. court system to constrain the Trump administration’s actions.

After a federal judge issued an unusual order Saturday evening that required all planes carrying those covered by Trump’s Alien Enemies Act declaration to return to the U.S, at least one planeload of Venezuelan deportees continued on to San Salvador and discharged its passengers to a waiting brigade of Salvadoran soldiers, police and videographers.

Grim video posted on X by El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, contained movie-like scenes set over a music soundtrack and depicted soldiers leading tattooed men off an airplane, forcing them to bend toward the ground as they were frog-marched to waiting buses and had their heads shaved by hooded prison guards.

Statements from Bukele and from Trump allies mocking the court order issued by the chief U.S. District Judge in Washington, James Boasberg, contributed to an air of fecklessness around the U.S. legal system in Trump’s second term.


It's not the first time trump refused to comply with a court order. It likely won't be the last as he tries to normalize ignoring the courts.
Every time democrats don't get their way they say we are in a Constitutional crisis. The problem is democrats conflate the democrat party with democracy and if something doesn't go the democrat's way, it is referred to as taking democracy away but it's really just taking democrat policies away.
 

A federal judge intends to press the Trump administration on whether it violated his order on deportation flights.


A federal judge in Washington plans to press the Trump administration at a hearing on Monday about whether it has violated an order he issued barring officials from removing any detained noncitizens — including several suspected Venezuelan gang members — from the country with little or no due process.

The hearing was scheduled by the judge, James E. Boasberg, even as President Trump’s so-called border czar, Tom Homan, made defiant remarks on television, indicating that the administration planned to continue such deportations despite the court’s order — an action that could thrust the country into a constitutional crisis, pitting one of the coequal branches of the government against another.

“We’re not stopping,” Mr. Homan said Monday, during an appearance on Fox News. “I don’t care what the judges think, I don’t care what the left thinks. We’re coming.”


That's the definition of a constitutional crisis. The kind of remark that should get Homan fired.
"Press" it all the way to the SCOTUS.
:rolleyes:
 
You moron. The judge is telling him his powers are spelled out in the constitution and he cant do what he wants.
the judge has no authority to what he's doing. again, the constitution gives the executive branch its own powers, the judicial doesn't override that. He chooses them. wow.
 

A federal judge intends to press the Trump administration on whether it violated his order on deportation flights.


A federal judge in Washington plans to press the Trump administration at a hearing on Monday about whether it has violated an order he issued barring officials from removing any detained noncitizens — including several suspected Venezuelan gang members — from the country with little or no due process.

The hearing was scheduled by the judge, James E. Boasberg, even as President Trump’s so-called border czar, Tom Homan, made defiant remarks on television, indicating that the administration planned to continue such deportations despite the court’s order — an action that could thrust the country into a constitutional crisis, pitting one of the coequal branches of the government against another.

“We’re not stopping,” Mr. Homan said Monday, during an appearance on Fox News. “I don’t care what the judges think, I don’t care what the left thinks. We’re coming.”


That's the definition of a constitutional crisis. The kind of remark that should get Homan fired.
there is no standing. let the judge do what he thinks he needs to do, but exactly what that is, he hasn't a fking clue. He has no authority. No standing.
 
the judge has no authority to what he's doing. again, the constitution gives the executive branch its own powers, the judicial doesn't override that. He chooses them. wow.
The Judicial Branch will decide what is Constitutional
 

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