Adding to the debate about whether we are in a constitutional crisis.

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

No. If Trump nominates a spider monkey for a cabinet post and a court ruled Trump cant nominate a monkey then Trump can appeal all the way up to the SCOTUS. Their decision is binding. If they tell him monkeys cannot be cabinet members then he has to follow that. You know how this works.

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Why should President Trump not be entitled to nominate spider monkeys to his cabinet? Tater Joe got away with it.




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[citygator]

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Why should President Trump not be entitled to nominate spider monkeys to his cabinet? Tater Joe got away with it.




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Maybe he is... but that is up to Judges appointed to make that very decision if a stakeholder thinks he doesnt have that right.

 

[BluesLegend]

This hack Dem judge is now facing calls for his impeachment!

 

[BackAgain]

When they are forced to go underground for their personal safety, it won't be obvious at first.

But history tells us that's when the long knives come out to save democracy.

To your satisfaction, the Demofks are also to blame. They continued to fail to act in a way that would rescue America's working class who are still being cheated by huge and growing income inequality.

Don’t pretend to tell a what “history” teaches. First off, that’s not what it teaches, you babbling bitch.

Secondly, morons like you cannot learn any lessons from history because you don’t know history.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When there is a difference in stakeholders' interpretation of the constitution who gets to decide? The president? Fuck off. The Judiciary.

The judge "has made his decision; now let him enforce it."

 

[berg80]

There are accepted and long established executive powers that are recognized by everyone. Until of course, Trump is elected and the hate cult steps in.

No where did this judge establish that Trump was acting outside the Constitution nor outside his recognized and established authority.

Hell, no where did the Judge even establish that the States even have standing in this matter. The people being deported are NOT US citizens and NOT citizens of their respective States. They are criminals being deported for their criminal activity.

Or are you going to claim that the President does not have the authority to deport criminals of other nations from our country?

Good fucking God you people are insane.

There has been no judicial procedure establishing that the people being deported are in fact criminals. The legality of the deportations hinges on whether the law from the 18th century that trump is using to justify them is applicable.

 

[Delldude]

If Trump ignores a Supreme Court ruling and gets away with it, we're no longer a Constitutional Republic.

Great point....................Biden get a student loan pass?

 

[Delldude]

There has been no judicial procedure establishing that the people being deported are in fact criminals.

Entered illegally...................criminals.

 

[Nobody911]

White House touts deportation of alleged gang members that court ordered returned to US​

President Donald Trump’s White House is celebrating his use of a rarely invoked wartime authority to carry out the mass deportation of hundreds of alleged gang members to El Salvador in an episode that fueled doubts about the ability of the U.S. court system to constrain the Trump administration’s actions.

After a federal judge issued an unusual order Saturday evening that required all planes carrying those covered by Trump’s Alien Enemies Act declaration to return to the U.S, at least one planeload of Venezuelan deportees continued on to San Salvador and discharged its passengers to a waiting brigade of Salvadoran soldiers, police and videographers.

Grim video posted on X by El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, contained movie-like scenes set over a music soundtrack and depicted soldiers leading tattooed men off an airplane, forcing them to bend toward the ground as they were frog-marched to waiting buses and had their heads shaved by hooded prison guards.

Statements from Bukele and from Trump allies mocking the court order issued by the chief U.S. District Judge in Washington, James Boasberg, contributed to an air of fecklessness around the U.S. legal system in Trump’s second term.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/16/deport-support-venezuela-el-salvador-00232379

It's not the first time trump refused to comply with a court order. It likely won't be the last as he tries to normalize ignoring the courts.

Actually, America has been in a leadership crisis compared to China or Russia. Both Biden and Trump failed.

Here's why:

Leadership Challenges in America: The U.S. faces significant leadership challenges, including a decline in public trust in institutions and leaders. This is partly due to strategic failures in foreign policy, such as misjudging global economic and political shifts, and domestic issues like political polarization and social unrest34. The Information Revolution has also made leadership more difficult, as rapid societal changes require adaptable and visionary leaders3.

China-Russia Strategic Alliance: China and Russia are strengthening their strategic relationship, which presents a formidable challenge to American leadership on the global stage. This alliance is not only a military partnership but also a strategic one, aimed at countering Western influence and promoting their own interests256.

Comparative Leadership Dynamics: While America struggles with internal leadership issues, China and Russia are focused on projecting stability and strength internationally. China, in particular, is diversifying its diplomatic portfolio and strengthening ties with countries that have competitive or adversarial relations with the U.S.5. Russia, despite its limitations, uses its influence to sow geopolitical upheaval5.

Global Influence and Perception: The U.S. faces challenges in maintaining its global influence due to perceived leadership failures and internal divisions4. In contrast, China and Russia are seen as stable partners in their strategic alliance, even if their methods and goals differ25.

In sum, while all three countries face leadership challenges, America's crisis is more pronounced due to internal divisions, strategic missteps, and the comparative stability and strategic alignment of China and Russia.

sources:
1. Potential leadership crisis looms in 2025 as burnout increases
2. In Phone Call, Putin, Xi Emphasize That China and Russia ‘Cannot Be Moved Apart’. America’s Crisis of Leadership
4. https://www.weforum.org/stories/2025/02/america-2025-three-experts-radio-davos/
5. China and Russia’s strategic relationship amid a shifting geopolitical landscape
6. The China-Russia relationship and threats to vital US interests
7. Leading Through Turbulence: Lessons from the 2025 Leadership Crisis Challenge - Sanger Leadership Center
8. https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/10/asia/iran-china-russia-joint-navy-drills-intl-hnk/index.html

The collapse of American empire is increasingly likely. Why? History typically repeats itself.

The collapse of the Greek empire, particularly the Classical period, can be attributed to several interrelated factors:

1. Leadership Crisis: The lack of strong, unified leadership following the death of influential leaders, such as Alexander the Great, led to fragmentation and power struggles among successor states.

2. Political Fragmentation: The rise of various city-states, each with its own government and interests, weakened the cohesion that had allowed for collective action against external threats.

3. Military Defeats: Significant military losses, such as the defeat of the Greek city-states at the hands of Macedon and later Rome, diminished their power and influence.

4. Economic Decline: Overreliance on slavery and the disruption of trade routes reduced economic stability, contributing to social unrest and weakening the state.

5. Social Unrest: Class divisions and social strife led to civil wars and internal conflict, undermining the political system.

6. Cultural Decline: The philosophical and cultural achievements that defined the Greek identity began to wane as infighting and external pressures took precedence.

7. External Invasions: Continuous invasions by external forces, such as the Romans, ultimately led to the absorption of Greek territories into larger empires.

8. Rise of Rome: The expansion of the Roman Empire overshadowed and absorbed Greek territories, leading to the decline of Greek sovereignty and cultural influence.

These factors combined to create a complex web of challenges that ultimately led to the decline and collapse of the Greek empire.

 

[Mac-7]

White House touts deportation of alleged gang members that court ordered returned to US​

President Donald Trump’s White House is celebrating his use of a rarely invoked wartime authority to carry out the mass deportation of hundreds of alleged gang members to El Salvador in an episode that fueled doubts about the ability of the U.S. court system to constrain the Trump administration’s actions.

After a federal judge issued an unusual order Saturday evening that required all planes carrying those covered by Trump’s Alien Enemies Act declaration to return to the U.S, at least one planeload of Venezuelan deportees continued on to San Salvador and discharged its passengers to a waiting brigade of Salvadoran soldiers, police and videographers.

Grim video posted on X by El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, contained movie-like scenes set over a music soundtrack and depicted soldiers leading tattooed men off an airplane, forcing them to bend toward the ground as they were frog-marched to waiting buses and had their heads shaved by hooded prison guards.

Statements from Bukele and from Trump allies mocking the court order issued by the chief U.S. District Judge in Washington, James Boasberg, contributed to an air of fecklessness around the U.S. legal system in Trump’s second term.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/16/deport-support-venezuela-el-salvador-00232379

It's not the first time trump refused to comply with a court order. It likely won't be the last as he tries to normalize ignoring the courts.

so, the unelected and unanswerable federal judges control trump

Who controls partisan political judges when they are out of control?

 

[scruffy]

There has been no judicial procedure establishing that the people being deported are in fact criminals.

They are designated terrorists.

The legality of the deportations hinges on whether the law from the 18th century that trump is using to justify them is applicable.

You might want to read the Patriot Act.

 

[GLASNOST]

Adding to the debate about whether we are in a constitutional crisis..​

Lawfare against Trump is all the proof you need.

 

[berg80]

so, the unelected and unanswerable federal judges control trump

The language of that talking point intentionally ignores over 200 years of history in the US.
You are, perhaps intentionally, missing the point. Compliance with court orders isn't optional depending on your perspective on it. First you comply, then you appeal.
The fact that this admin believes it is above the rule of law, in this case by claiming a federal judge has no jurisdiction over its decisions, is what autocracy looks like.
In its court filings the admin says it has the right to deport who it wants under an 18th law. And in case they don't, they claim the prez has the inherent right to do it due to the power invested in the POTUS. It is entitled to that opinion, and to appeal the judges ruling. It isn't entitled to ignore the judges ruling. Got it?

 

[berg80]

The judge "has made his decision; now let him enforce it."

I think it's safe to say we are aware of JD Vance's (and your) unconstitutional stance on whether any admin can defy court orders. Making both you traitors in favor of autocratic rule.

The Department of Justice on Monday asked a federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., to replace the district court judge overseeing a case challenging the Trump administration’s deportations of hundreds of alleged Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador under the wartime Alien Enemies Act.

The request, which cited Chief Judge James Boasberg’s alleged “inappropriate exercise of jurisdiction,” came as Boasberg conducted a hearing where he pressed a top-ranking DOJ lawyer about the circumstances of the deportations conducted over the weekend.

The DOJ earlier Monday asked Boasberg without success to cancel that hearing.

Boasberg in an oral order on Saturday had told the DOJ to order the return of any deportees who were still airborne on flights that originated in the United States.

The DOJ in a court filing claimed that “an oral directive is not enforceable as an injunction” and said that it had complied with Boasberg’s written order issued hours later blocking any more deportation flights of Venezuelans.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/17/trump-deportation-order-venezuela-gang-judge-alien-enemies.html

The regime doesn't Boasberg's ruling so they want him removed from the case. Elon no doubt wants him to be impeached in keeping with comments he has made about other judges. They aren't slow walking the US towards autocracy any longer. It's a full on sprint.

 

[Mac-7]

The language of that talking point intentionally ignores over 200 years of history in the US.
You are, perhaps intentionally, missing the point. Compliance with court orders isn't optional depending on your perspective on it. First you comply, then you appeal.
The fact that this admin believes it is above the rule of law, in this case by claiming a federal judge has no jurisdiction over its decisions, is what autocracy looks like.
In its court filings the admin says it has the right to deport who it wants under an 18th law. And in case they don't, they claim the prez has the inherent right to do it due to the power invested in the POTUS. It is entitled to that opinion, and to appeal the judges ruling. It isn't entitled to ignore the judges ruling. Got it?

In your scenario unelected judges rule the country over the duly elected president

Thats a form of tyranny also

 

[SeaMajor7]

Let's see this punk ass judge DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!

 

[berg80]

In your scenario unelected judges rule the country

Ridiculous. Their constitutional role is to interpret the law passed by Congress and signed by the prez. It has always been thus since the beginning of the country.

 

[Mac-7]

Ridiculous. Their constitutional role is to interpret the law passed by Congress and signed by the prez. It has always been thus since the beginning of the country.

Your way of thinking makes judges more powerful than congress or the president

 

[berg80]

Elon no doubt wants him to be impeached in keeping with comments he has made about other judges.

Bingo.

Trump calls for impeachment of judge who tried to halt deportations​

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www.politico.com

President Donald Trump on Tuesday called for the impeachment of the federal judge who ordered a two-week halt to his efforts to remove Venezuelan migrants using extraordinary war powers that haven’t been invoked for decades.

Trump’s call to remove U.S. District Judge James Boasberg — the chief judge of the federal district court in Washington, D.C. — is the first time since taking office for his second term that he’s asked Congress to seek a judge’s removal, joining increasingly pointed calls by his top donor and adviser Elon Musk and a segment of his MAGA base.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Ridiculous. Their constitutional role is to interpret the law passed by Congress and signed by the prez. It has always been thus since the beginning of the country.

They don't have standing to direct the Executive branch.
NONE.