Adam sinned, not Eve. Why did Yahweh punish an innocent Eve?

[GreatestIam]

All people will one day glorify God (Psalm 86:9), and God purposes “to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ” (Ephesians 1:10).

God’s purpose was to create a world in which His glory could be manifest in all its fullness.

St. Hitler and St. Stalin used the same method for the same purpose.

Given that we are all to emulate Yahweh, they were really good Christians. Right?

Regards
DL

 

[Calypso Jones]

done here.

 

[GreatestIam]

God’s purpose was to create a world in which His glory could be manifest in all its fullness.

And he will genocide us as often as necessary so that we all come out as homophobic and misogynous as his religious a hole followers are.

Nice purpose.

Are you there yet in your level of hate and discrimination without a just cause?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Some people don't like God's plan. I'm not one of them.

You like following a genocidal god who hates women and gays.

I get that.

Morality is low on your list of requirements for a god.

That is why you follow a genocidal god who kills when he could just as easily cure.

Why are your morals and ethics so low?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Have you even read the account? Get back to me afterwards.

It and the Jewish one that shows the reverse in the moral of the story.

Get back to me when you catch up.

Regards
DL

 

[norwegen]

To think that Eve was an individual is just foolishness.

 

[GreatestIam]

To think that Eve was an individual is just foolishness.

I agree.

She is to represent all women and be blamed and denigrated for what Adam did.

Regards
DL

 

[norwegen]

I agree.

She is to represent all women and be blamed and denigrated for what Adam did.

Regards
DL

Who says she is to represent women?

 

[GreatestIam]

Who says she is to represent women?

It follows given that Adam is to be all men.

adam, lower case, is what Jews wrote and that represents society.

Hence why we are all supposed to be condemned just as adam was.

Why else would we be handed down Adam's sin if we are not to be him in this myth?

Who else would Eve represent if not all women?

Regards
DL

 

[norwegen]

It follows given that Adam is to be all men.

adam, lower case, is what Jews wrote and that represents society.

Hence why we are all supposed to be condemned just as adam was.

Why else would we be handed down Adam's sin if we are not to be him in this myth?

Who else would Eve represent if not all women?

Regards
DL

Is that so? Does "Adam" not mean humankind? Humankind in this case is a people of a ruddy complexion who had a connection to the Creator.

"Eve" means life.

 

[Gracie]

Who was she modeled on and why female? Likely because of evolution and women being men’s biological prize.

Because a woman can give birth.

The rest of your OP is...well..never mind.

 

[onefour1]

Quite the scam from the father of lies, Yahweh.

On the contrary, it was a plan to further the progression of all the spirit children of the Father and allow them to gain a greater knowledge and obtain a body with which they could be resurrected with which brings greater joy and happiness in the eternities.

All for his own aggrandizement. Seem s like what a vile prick of a parent would do.

Giving the children of God the opportunity to progress and receive an immortal body is not personal aggrandizement. Especially when He had to suffer for the sins all mankind to bring about the immortality of all mankind and to give them the opportunity to repent and receive mercy for their sins.

Would you murder, --- by neglect and locking away what would keep them alive, the tree of life, --- your two first children?

The reason God blocked Adam and Eve from the tree of life was to allow them a period of time to experience the world of good and evil and repent of any sins before receiving immortality. Receiving immortality before gaining the chance to repent would ensure they would not have a chance for eternal life. Giving them a probationary period to repent would allow them the opportunity to repent which could lead to eternal life on top of immortality. For this reason they were blocked from the tree of life until they had the opportunity to repent and gain further knowledge of good and evil.

I guess that you might agree with the Jews who see Eden as a success for man and god and not the show of incompetence in both man and god. Right?

I do agree that the events of the Garden of Eden were a success and that we have been given a great gift to be able to have knowledge like God of good and evil in this great school of mortality.

You have Yahweh showing quite the poor virtue.

You likely sing along with Christians saying that Adam's sin being a happy fault. Yes?

Regards
DL

I think your lack of understanding the works of God has led you to judge the Almighty according to your lack of information.

 

[onefour1]

What is the logic and justice in punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?

Regards
DL

God gave Adam and Eve the commandment to not partake of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. He also laid out the punishment that Adam and Eve would receive if they broke the commandment. God told them that in the day thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. Adam and Eve chose to partake of the fruit of the tree. They were both guilty of disobedience of the commandment. Both Adam and Eve suffered a spiritual death by being cast out of the garden where they enjoyed the presence of God in the garden. Later they would experience a physical death. They received the punishment for their transgression. However, God did provide a means whereby they could repent of their transgression and be allowed to once again gain entrance into the kingdom of heaven as well as being made alive again through the resurrection of the dead. So how was Adam and Eve innocent of breaking the command not to partake of the fruit?

 

[GreatestIam]

Is that so? Does "Adam" not mean humankind?

"Eve" means life.

As I stated.

adam means society or tribe.

Adam is just our first man. in this myth.

Read the Jewish version as they know this and apply things to all of their society.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Because a woman can give birth.

The rest of your OP is...well..never mind.

Well, at least you are half right.

Now go away and find a Christian to see you as lower than himself, --- the way he is trained to do.

Regards
DL

 

[LittleNipper]

On the contrary, it was a plan to further the progression of all the spirit children of the Father and allow them to gain a greater knowledge and obtain a body with which they could be resurrected with which brings greater joy and happiness in the eternities.


Giving the children of God the opportunity to progress and receive an immortal body is not personal aggrandizement. Especially when He had to suffer for the sins all mankind to bring about the immortality of all mankind and to give them the opportunity to repent and receive mercy for their sins.

The reason God blocked Adam and Eve from the tree of life was to allow them a period of time to experience the world of good and evil and repent of any sins before receiving immortality. Receiving immortality before gaining the chance to repent would ensure they would not have a chance for eternal life. Giving them a probationary period to repent would allow them the opportunity to repent which could lead to eternal life on top of immortality. For this reason they were blocked from the tree of life until they had the opportunity to repent and gain further knowledge of good and evil.



I do agree that the events of the Garden of Eden were a success and that we have been given a great gift to be able to have knowledge like God of good and evil in this great school of mortality.

I think your lack of understanding the works of God has led you to judge the Almighty according to your lack of information.

You are obviously a Mormon. GOD is bringing humanity full circle. We are not eternal spirit children born to God the FATHER and some mother "Wisdom". We are CREATED beings. GOD the FATHER, SON , and HOLY SPIRIT are eternal and the ONLY GOD that exists or existed or will ever exist!

 

[norwegen]

As I stated.

adam means society or tribe.

Adam is just our first man. in this myth.

Read the Jewish version as they know this and apply things to all of their society.

Regards
DL

If he's a tribe, he may be the first "man," but not necessarily the first homo sapien.

Adam was not Nod, nor vice versa.

 

[Gracie]

Well, at least you are half right.

Now go away and find a Christian to see you as lower than himself, --- the way he is trained to do.

Regards
DL

Go away? lol. I think I will stick around and laugh at you.

 

[GreatestIam]

and allow them to gain a greater knowledge

Which they did, and were murdered by neglect for.

He also laid out the punishment that Adam and Eve would receive

Which they could not decide if it was good or evil, given they had yet to consume any knowledge of those.

Adam and Eve suffered a spiritual death by being cast out of the garden

???
Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;

That looks like more spiritual life, not death, and A & E did not die that day.

Any other issues can be looked at like mens rea, should you understand the story reasonably to this point.

So how was Adam and Eve innocent of breaking the command not to partake of the fruit?

Men's rea absolves them both, if you understand the law of your land.

The bible only absolves Eve by pointing to the deception she could not fight as it was Yahweh's own power being used by Satan.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

FATHER, SON , and HOLY SPIRIT are eternal

This is a lie, given that Jesus is shown to die in your myth.

Are you saying he did not and that the whole salvation of man is a sham?

Where in scriptures does it say that god can die?

Regards
DL