Zone1 Mary's sinlessness

[hadit]

The difference between us is you said you go to God.

I do. He is the ultimate translator of His own Word, yes? Why would you NOT go to Him in prayer over something you've heard and ask for the wisdom He promises to give generously?

 

[Meriweather]

I do. He is the ultimate translator of His own Word, yes? Why would you NOT go to Him in prayer over something you've heard and ask for the wisdom He promises to give generously?

I merely pointed out you see yourself as the final authority on what God said about the scripture you were praying. This is where we get a million people saying a million different things because God told them in prayer. This interested me when your first said it, but no longer. Shrug.

 

[hobelim]

But refused to say God created the universe until now.

First, I said was that I logically agree that only what people think of as God could be the first cause, secondly because you are intentionally conflating the two subjects. Using literature to try and prove a scientific question.

Do you even have an inkling how dishonest that is? What that reveals about you in spite of your religious facade?

The creation account of "heaven and earth" in Genesis is not about the creation of the universe.

You might as well use the story of "the three pigs" to try to prove that there was a magical time in the past when pigs could talk and build houses or the story of Pinocchio to try and prove that a puppet can become a real boy.

¿Comprende pinche pendejo?

 

[hobelim]

I think you are a political ideologue who is intent on subverting Christianity because of political issues like gay marriage and abortion.

And that is why your hatred of Christians can be seen in how hateful your posts are towards Christians. I think your hatred consumes you and that it feels good to you to write your posts the way you do.

You might want to take some time out of your busy day making scurrilous accusations to consider that I am right.


"Saint Stephen with a rose
In and out of the garden he goes
Country garland in the wind and the rain
Wherever he goes the people all complain"

 

[ding]

First, I said was that I logically agree that only what people think of as God could be the first cause, secondly because you are intentionally conflating the two subjects. Using literature to try and prove a scientific question.

Do you even have an inkling how dishonest that is? What that reveals about you in spite of your religious facade?

The creation account of "heaven and earth" in Genesis is not about the creation of the universe.

You might as well use the story of "the three pigs" to try to prove that there was a magical time in the past when pigs could talk and build houses or the story of Pinocchio to try and prove that a puppet can become a real boy.

¿Comprende pinche pendejo?

Judaism says different.

 

[ding]

You might want to take some time out of your busy day making scurrilous accusations to consider that I am right.


"Saint Stephen with a rose
In and out of the garden he goes
Country garland in the wind and the rain
Wherever he goes the people all complain"

Your posts say otherwise.

 

[hobelim]

Judaism says different.

So what. Now they know better.

So you can look and look and see nothing as all of Israel ascends into Heaven right in front of your blinded mind.

 

[ding]

So what. Now they know better.

So you can look and look and see nothing as all of Israel ascends into Heaven right in front of your blinded mind.

Yes, about the account that originated with them, they sure do. A creator God is a core belief of all monotheistic religions.

 

[hobelim]

A creator God is a core belief of all monotheistic religions.

So.

Now there is something new, a far more rational WAY to understand "the creation of heaven and earth" that does not preclude the existence of One true God that is not a trinity and never became a sacrificial Jewish man. Derp.

You may never be able to cut the mustard but guess what.

I don't give two shits.

 

[ding]

So.

Now there is something new, a far more rational WAY to understand "the creation of heaven and earth" That does not preclude the existence of One true God that is not three and never became a sacrificial Jewish man. Derp.

You may never be able to cut the mustard but guess what.

I don't give two shits.

So a core belief in all monotheistic faiths is that a single, all-powerful God is the ultimate cause of all existence.

 

[hobelim]

So a core belief in all monotheistic faiths is that a single, all-powerful God is the ultimate cause of all existence.

OK. Again, so what. You profess to believe in a trinity that became a man. You are all on your own with that crap.

The truth remains. The story of Genesis is not and never was about the cause or beginning of the universe.

 

[ding]

OK. Again, so what.

The truth remains. The story of Genesis is not and never was about the cause or beginning of the universe.

Except you are wrong. It’s not called the Creation account for nothing.

 

[hobelim]

Except you are wrong. It’s not called the Creation account for nothing.

Is it any wonder why the unknown Jewish authors of scripture considered people like you dead, under a curse?

 

[ding]

Is it any wonder why the unknown Jewish authors of scripture considered people like you dead, under a curse?

Not a lot of people know that when the universe was created from nothing there was no light.

Those unknown Jewish authors knew it 6,000 years before modern science did.

 

[hadit]

So a core belief in all monotheistic faiths is that a single, all-powerful God is the ultimate cause of all existence.

He doesn't care. His personal belief overrides all others.

 

[hadit]

Not a lot of people know that when the universe was created from nothing there was no light.

Those unknown Jewish authors knew it 6,000 years before modern science did.

Also that when God said, "Let there be light", stars didn't exist. Scientists thought that was the most absurd thing ever until they realized that the very early universe was dark until it cooled down enough for photons to exist and allow light to travel through it.

 

[ding]

Also that when God said, "Let there be light", stars didn't exist. Scientists thought that was the most absurd thing ever until they realized that the very early universe was dark until it cooled down enough for photons to exist and allow light to travel through it.

And many physicist’s were resistant to the universe having a beginning.