Zone1 Adam & Eve were not the first humans created by God

[The Irish Ram]

He came to redeem the Jews from the burden of the Law, but they preferred to remain in bondage. The rest of Israel had long forsaken the law, and Jesus didn't yoke them to it again.

He did come to redeem the Jews, but they missed the hour of their visitation. But the Law was very much being kept by the Jews. The city swelled to 4 times its size from Jews making the pilgrimage to the Temple for Passover. Christ was The Passover Lamb. Jesus fulfilled every Law for the Jews and gave them a better covenant, but they refused it. Nevertheless, there were Gentiles that accepted it, thus entering us into the era of the Gentiles.

Jesus is planning a second trip to Israel. To fight on their behalf. He is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. They will accept him this time:

 

[The Irish Ram]

Lilith certainly didn't but Adam is mentioned in the genealogy of Christ by Luke.

You might find the works of Solomon interesting. Not only did the demons exist, Solomon recorded them and their occupations, and their status in the demon world. I tend to believe that demons do exist. But, I really wouldn't recommend looking them up.

 

[rosends]

I am not a scholar, rosends, but I have some understanding of Leviticus, and redemption, and by whom. It is pretty much laid out:

Leviticus 25:25-28
If a fellow countryman of yours becomes so poor he has to sell part of his property, then his nearest kinsman is to come and buy back what his relative has sold. Or in case a man has no kinsman, but so recovers his means as to find sufficient for its redemption, then he shall calculate the years since its sale and refund the balance to the man to whom he sold it, and so return to his property. But if he has not found sufficient means to get it back for himself, then what he has sold shall remain in the hands of its purchaser until the year of jubilee; but at the jubilee it shall revert, that he may return to his property.

Galatians gives us the reason why Jesus was born of a woman, and under the Law and the result:

Galatians 4:4-7
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”.
Therefore, you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.

Jesus is our Redeemer...

Jewish law disagrees with you. This is a law related to a very specific instance. It isn't generalized beyond that.

 

[The Irish Ram]

To be a Kinsman redeemer there were four requirements that had to be met.

1. You had to be kin.

The only way you could be a kinsman-redeemer was that you had to be of the same family. There had to be some relational tie. I like to think of it as you had to be of the same kind. Someone from another family could not bring about the redemption because they were of a different kind.

2. You had to be willing.

In the Ruth and Boaz story the person who was the next redeemer in line was simply not willing to follow through with the redemption. If the person was not willing, they could not be forced to do it. Being willing is at the heart of what a kinsman-redeemer is.

3. You had to be able to redeem.

Willingness alone was not enough to be a kinsman-redeemer. You actually had to be able to follow through with the redemption. If you did not have the financial means to make the redemption, then you could not be the redeemer. It did not matter how good your intentions were.

4. You had to pay the price in full.

There was no such thing as partial redemption when it came to being a kinsman-redeemer. Unless the full price was paid, there was no redemption. It was truly an all or nothing proposition

It seemed to work out well for King David's ancestors...

 

[rosends]

To be a Kinsman redeemer there were four requirements that had to be met.

1. You had to be kin.

The only way you could be a kinsman-redeemer was that you had to be of the same family. There had to be some relational tie. I like to think of it as you had to be of the same kind. Someone from another family could not bring about the redemption because they were of a different kind.

2. You had to be willing.

In the Ruth and Boaz story the person who was the next redeemer in line was simply not willing to follow through with the redemption. If the person was not willing, they could not be forced to do it. Being willing is at the heart of what a kinsman-redeemer is.

3. You had to be able to redeem.

Willingness alone was not enough to be a kinsman-redeemer. You actually had to be able to follow through with the redemption. If you did not have the financial means to make the redemption, then you could not be the redeemer. It did not matter how good your intentions were.

4. You had to pay the price in full.

There was no such thing as partial redemption when it came to being a kinsman-redeemer. Unless the full price was paid, there was no redemption. It was truly an all or nothing proposition

It seemed to work out well for King David's ancestors...

You are now mixing up 2 sets of laws.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I am not a scholar, rosends, but I have some understanding of Leviticus, and redemption, and by whom. It is pretty much laid out:

Leviticus 25:25-28
If a fellow countryman of yours becomes so poor he has to sell part of his property, then his nearest kinsman is to come and buy back what his relative has sold. Or in case a man has no kinsman, but so recovers his means as to find sufficient for its redemption, then he shall calculate the years since its sale and refund the balance to the man to whom he sold it, and so return to his property. But if he has not found sufficient means to get it back for himself, then what he has sold shall remain in the hands of its purchaser until the year of jubilee; but at the jubilee it shall revert, that he may return to his property.

Galatians gives us the reason why Jesus was born of a woman, and under the Law and the result:

Galatians 4:4-7
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”.
Therefore, you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.

Jesus is our Redeemer...

He makes the ASSUMPTION that Jews interpret the OT flawlessly. Jesus exposed that prideful error

 

[rosends]

He makes the ASSUMPTION that Jews interpret the OT flawlessly. Jesus exposed that prideful error

That's not the issue. The problem was the claim that something exists in Jewish law. Whether or not one thinks Jewish law is the result of proper or improper textual understanding isn't relevant. The concern is in misrepresenting Jewish law to say that it says things which it doesn't.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

most scholars consider 1 John 5:7, specifically the phrase "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one," to be a spurious addition to the biblical text. It's not found in the earliest Greek manuscripts or quoted by early church fathers, leading many to believe it was added later to support the doctrine of the Trinity.

I'm glad that You posted that Carl, cuz' it's just one example of very many, where either the "Oral Law upholding Jewish Canonizers", or the "Satanically Inspired Catholic Canonizers" either intentionally corrupted/twisted Scripture, added to The Scriptures, &/or Withheld Scripture.

The Truth be known,..... There are many Books, & Letters, specifically referred to in both Testaments, that were INTENTIONALLY not included in The Bible, simply because they exposed the Canonizers for what they Truly were.

Back then, & now,...... The "Talmudists", & "Satanists in Sheep's clothing" serve the "God of this World", & I Assure everyone that "God", is not The Almighty LORD GOD of Yisrael.

If all of the "Spiritually Inspired Letters & Books" were included in the Bible, with two examples being "Enoch", & "Yasher",.... The Bible would easily contain more than 100 Books, & Letters.

As far as the "OP",..... I do believe that there was Life, here on Earth, & Elsewhere, before Adam & Eve.

 

[Woodznutz]

He did come to redeem the Jews, but they missed the hour of their visitation. But the Law was very much being kept by the Jews. The city swelled to 4 times its size from Jews making the pilgrimage to the Temple for Passover. Christ was The Passover Lamb. Jesus fulfilled every Law for the Jews and gave them a better covenant, but they refused it. Nevertheless, there were Gentiles that accepted it, thus entering us into the era of the Gentiles.

Jesus is planning a second trip to Israel. To fight on their behalf. He is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. They will accept him this time:

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Actually, Jesus then went to "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" from whom the church was built. Of course, some gentiles did come in as well as some Jews.