Zone1 Adam & Eve were not the first humans created by God

[Woodznutz]

Frankl coined the term “existential vacuum” to describe the void of meaninglessness that was being experienced by so many people, especially students.​

He warned that this void would produce anxiety, depression, addiction, and even suicide. He believed that the ‘mechanistic’ institutional systems developed in the 20th century (governments, schools, corporations) contributed to the existential vacuum. The turning over of personal responsibility to these systems, which focus on external outputs and devalue humanness, had helped produce mass neurosis.

In numerous lecture tours to all parts of the world, Frankl expounded his ideas to professionals and laypersons alike. Inspired by his ideas, Logotherapy Institutes were created around the globe, offering training, therapy, and research in meaning-centered psychotherapy.

The most troublesome aspect of humanity is the need to reinvent the wheel every generation. Revelation is rejected in favor of experimentation, or simply accepting the status quo.

 

[Zebra]

Goethe called her …… Adam.s first wife … in the Walpurgis Night, when the witches fly to the Brocken mountain.

And today is the day of saint Walburga

 

[onefour1]

A.I.'s response to the question, "Did Adam have a wife named Lilith and was she created before Eve?

"According to Jewish folklore and medieval mystical traditions, Lilith was Adam’s first wife, created from the same dust as him, before Eve. This idea arises from an attempt to reconcile two differing creation accounts in Genesis: Genesis 1:27, which states God created "male and female" simultaneously, and Genesis 2:18–25, which describes God forming Eve from Adam’s rib after Adam was alone.

The Alphabet of Ben Sira (circa 800–900 CE) is the first text to clearly identify Lilith as Adam’s first wife. In this story, Lilith refused to submit to Adam sexually, claiming equality because she was made from the same dust. She left Eden, uttered God’s name, and flew away. God sent three angels to bring her back, but she refused. A deal was made: she would not harm newborns if protected by amulets bearing the angels’ names.

However, Lilith is not mentioned in the Bible, and her story is absent from the Torah, Talmud, and early Jewish texts. Scholars trace her origins to ancient Mesopotamian myths about demonic night spirits (like lilin or lillu), not biblical history. The Christian tradition does not accept Lilith as Adam’s first wife, and most biblical scholars consider the tale a medieval Jewish legend, not a historical or scriptural fact.

In modern times, Lilith has been reinterpreted by feminist movements as a symbol of female independence and resistance to patriarchal authority, though this is a cultural evolution, not a biblical one.

Summary:​

• Biblical basis? No — Lilith is not in the Bible.
• Origin of the story? Medieval Jewish folklore (Alphabet of Ben Sira).
• Was she created before Eve? According to legend, yes — but not in Scripture.
• Is she real? No — she is a mythological figure, not a historical person. "

 

[Woodznutz]

In modern times, Lilith has been reinterpreted by feminist movements as a symbol of female independence and resistance to patriarchal authority, though this is a cultural evolution, not a biblical one.
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That fits as "lilith" is a "desert screech owl".

Lillith is the anglicized spelling of liyliyth.

לִילִית (liyliyth)
The Hebrew word for screech owl is לִילִית (liyliyth), pronounced as "lee-leeth". This term is used in biblical contexts to refer to a night creature or spectre.

 

[luiza]

Adam and Eve were the first prototypes developed by the Anunnaki ( Elohim) in Sumeria in the last invasion / experimentation period .

The so called Garden that has been named Eden was actually a hermetically sealed "bubble" to give the exact translation .


The sooner we get full Disclosure via the Aliens already working with our Breakaway Civilisation , the sooner this matter can be finally resolved .

 

[Woodznutz]

The so called Garden that has been named Eden was actually a hermetically sealed "bubble" to give the exact translation .

Eden means "pleasure" in Hebrew. Even today such manmade 'oasis' are called "pleasure garden's" in the middle east. People everywhere create such gardens as a pleasant place that grants a reprieve from a world that isn't so pleasant.

What God created for Adam and Eve was a sample of what the whole earth was like before the rebellion. The earth itself was created as a pleasure garden for the angels.

 

[Hollie]

Genesis 1 gives details, ending in the creation of man and woman simultaneously.

Genesis 2 gives details of Adam created first, and then Eve, in the garden of Eden.

The seeming inconsistencies in Genesis 4, can be reconciled by Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 being not a repeat of the same story, but two totally separate stories. Two totally separate creations.
One outside of the Garden of Eden, and the other within the Garden of Eden.

So in Genesis 4, when Cain was banished from Eden, he feared the people outside the Garden of Eden.

Umm, no the genesis fable is a confused, contradictory mess. If you ever read through it with an objective analysis you would understand that.

 

[Woodznutz]

You're obsessed with snakes
I'm more concerned with invasive humans in Florida and the country than snakes

I'm obsessed with the utter stupidity of Florida to deal with the snakes.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Umm, no the genesis fable is a confused, contradictory mess. If you ever read through it with an objective analysis you would understand that.

You don't understand what you read

 

[Woodznutz]

Umm, no the genesis fable is a confused, contradictory mess. If you ever read through it with an objective analysis you would understand that.

Genesis 1 is an outline; Genesis 2 gives details. No confusion there.

 

[Hollie]

Genesis 1 is an outline; Genesis 2 gives details. No confusion there.

I think the problem religious supernaturalists have with understanding biology and the origins of life is that they tend to learn both from religious texts, I will agree that "the bible says..." is all one needs to know. However, yo need to read the Sumerian and Babylonian creation stories, among others, which predate the Genesis fable.

 

[Woodznutz]

I think the problem religious supernaturalists have with understanding biology and the origins of life is that they tend to learn both from religious texts, I will agree that "the bible says..." is all one needs to know. However, yo need to read the Sumerian and Babylonian creation stories, among others, which predate the Genesis fable.

The Biblical creation story was written for Israel and the descendants of Israel. Of course, others may have had their own creation stories.

 

[The Irish Ram]

However, there is this verse:

1 Corinthians 15:45
English Standard Version
45 Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”;[a] the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

The reference to the last Adam is referring to Christ. To fulfill Jewish Law, if you have suffered loss, a relative can redeem what you have lost for you. That is called a kinsman redeemer. Jesus, as a relative of Adam, was able to redeem us. Adam turned title to everything he was given by God, over to Satan. Because of Adam, sin entered our blood. Christ's pure blood was necessary to cleanse our tainted blood.

As for Lilith, lore has it that she was a spirit, not a human, who argued with Adam about being on top when they had sex. He refused, and she left and went to the desert.
For kicks, Solomon used to call up demons. When he asked Lilith what her job was, she said it was to suffocate infants in their cribs and to sit on men's faces.
Mothers sing lullabies to babies to keep Lilith at bay. Lullaby means, Lilith be gone...

 

[rosends]

The reference to the last Adam is referring to Christ. To fulfill Jewish Law, if you have suffered loss, a relative can redeem what you have lost for you. That is called a kinsman redeemer.

I don't think you actually know the relevant Jewish laws.

 

[Woodznutz]

Lullaby means, Lilith be gone...

Wow. Do you have a source for that?

 

[The Irish Ram]

I don't think you actually know the relevant Jewish laws.:

I am not a scholar, rosends, but I have some understanding of Leviticus, and redemption, and by whom. It is pretty much laid out:

Leviticus 25:25-28
If a fellow countryman of yours becomes so poor he has to sell part of his property, then his nearest kinsman is to come and buy back what his relative has sold. Or in case a man has no kinsman, but so recovers his means as to find sufficient for its redemption, then he shall calculate the years since its sale and refund the balance to the man to whom he sold it, and so return to his property. But if he has not found sufficient means to get it back for himself, then what he has sold shall remain in the hands of its purchaser until the year of jubilee; but at the jubilee it shall revert, that he may return to his property.

Galatians gives us the reason why Jesus was born of a woman, and under the Law and the result:

Galatians 4:4-7
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”.
Therefore, you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.

Jesus is our Redeemer...

 

[The Irish Ram]

Wow. Do you have a source for that?

A folk etymology derives lullaby from "Lilith-Abi" (Hebrew for "Lilith, begone").<a href="Lull - Wikipedia
In the Jewish tradition, Lilith was a demon who was believed to steal children's souls in the night. To guard against Lilith, Jewish mothers would hang four amulets on nursery walls with the inscription "Lilith – abei

 

[Hafar1014]

Adan Eve and Lilith never existed they are metaphors in an allegory

 

[Woodznutz]

I am not a scholar, rosends, but I have some understanding of Leviticus, and redemption, and by whom. It is pretty much laid out:

Leviticus 25:25-28
If a fellow countryman of yours becomes so poor he has to sell part of his property, then his nearest kinsman is to come and buy back what his relative has sold. Or in case a man has no kinsman, but so recovers his means as to find sufficient for its redemption, then he shall calculate the years since its sale and refund the balance to the man to whom he sold it, and so return to his property. But if he has not found sufficient means to get it back for himself, then what he has sold shall remain in the hands of its purchaser until the year of jubilee; but at the jubilee it shall revert, that he may return to his property.

Galatians gives us the reason why Jesus was born of a woman, and under the Law and the result:

Galatians 4:4-7
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”.
Therefore, you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.

Jesus is our Redeemer...

He came to redeem the Jews from the burden of the Law, but they preferred to remain in bondage. The rest of Israel had long forsaken the law, and Jesus didn't yoke them to it again.

 

[Woodznutz]

Adan Eve and Lilith never existed they are metaphors in an allegory

Lilith certainly didn't but Adam is mentioned in the genealogy of Christ by Luke.