Mushroom
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Ohm there were many others. Specifically Iwo Jima and Saipan.
According to these guys the US attacke Japan in ww2
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Ohm there were many others. Specifically Iwo Jima and Saipan.
Mushroom
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And I guess you are completely oblivious to the fact that was in response to Pancho Villa attacking, sacking, and burning Columbus, New Mexico.
The US was in pursuit of him because he invaded the US.
Mushroom
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Wrong. China was one of the first nations to get it, the bill in March 1941 was specifically for the UK and China.
In fact, the AVG group (Flying Tigers) operated Lend-Lease aircraft. It was formed in April 1941, a month after Lend-Lease was enacted. And was finally entering service after the delays of recruiting, shipping and assembling aircraft when the US entered the war.
Mushroom
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They were part of the Chinese Air Force, which is why they operated with the Chinese roundel, and not the American roundel.
I guess by your definition then, the US aircraft that operate out of Al Udeid are really the Qatar Air Force.
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retard the pearl harbor attack was on a US naval base on US soil
GLASNOST
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"retard"? Is that the way you begin a discussion over a legitimate point of view? Gipper and Unkotora made an interesting observation and it is worth looking at earnestly. That is what I am doing. You're doing something else ...... throwing a tantrum it seems.
This, again, has no substance. The fact ..... you know THE FACT ... is that Hawaii was not a State. This leaves room for an honest discussion. You calling me "retard" does not support your ability to debate. In fact, it knocks you out of the park and far from the discussion table. Go sit in the corner for an hour and return if you think you can act like an adult.
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it is not honest at all a territory of the USA is US soil just like a state. It has the same responsibilities to the Government as a state, and the government has the same responsibilities to the territory as a state. Congress just hasn't granted it the full rights of a state."retard"? Is that the way you begin a discussion over a legitimate point of view? Gipper and Unkotora made an interesting observation and it is worth looking at earnestly. That is what I am doing. You're doing something else ...... throwing a tantrum it seems.
This, again, has no substance. The fact ..... you know THE FACT ... is that Hawaii was not a State. This leaves room for an honest discussion. You calling me "retard" does not support your ability to debate. In fact, it knocks you out of the park and far from the discussion table. Go sit in the corner for an hour and return if you think you can act like an adult.
GLASNOST
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I don't believe all of that. I know that an embassy is normally considered turf of the country it represents so I imagine the point you trying to make is worth making, although the US didn't respect Russia's embassy when it was sacked. Did the US attack Russia? But OK I understand you. Nonetheless Hawaii was not a State and the American base(s) there were not California or Oregon or D.C. The statehood of Hawaii was, therefore, not really clear. You can continue calling it "US territory" if you like and I have no problem with that, but if you insist on claiming Japan attacked the US then I'll need more convincing and I think Gipper and Unkotora will agree with me.
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Noooope. Words have meanings. A territory is not a state.
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RetiredGySgt
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claiming a territory of the US is not part of the US is ignorant.
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JoeB131
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I think you are a tad confused. You probably believe Western proganda that Chiang was a good guy. He wasn't. He was an incompetent little fascist who got rolled by the Japanese, and then got rolled by the Communists.
The Communists DID inherit Japanese arms, but other than that, Stalin didn't really do a lot to help Mao. He didn't think China was ready for Communism because it hadn't gone through a Capitalist stage. i.e., it was jumping right from feudalism to communism.
Chiang had four times the manpower that Mao had and far more advanced equipment. But yet Mao won because the Chinese people found his approach more appealing than Chiang's.
Joes wife is from China, and she trained him.
GLASNOST
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"Ignorant"? Why must you again revert to slander? I am losing respect for you very quickly and it doesn't do your credibility any good either. Sgt., huh? I was only a Corporal yet I am much smarter, savvy, and civilised than you.
JoeB131
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Nope, I just happen to have a history degree...
Including one course on modern Chinese History.
The problem is, most Americans have no idea why Mao won or why (despite a lot of errors) Chinese people still revere him today.
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anyone dumb enough to think a territory of the US is not part of the US deserves to be made fun of.
Failzero
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I know that , but the premise of this thread tree from the OP is that America was aggressive & Partisan in Every Conflict we have ever been in ( Especially all theaters of WW2 )
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RetiredGySgt
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you get what you deserve ignorant fools who can't understand simple facts are not worth much more effort.
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