Abortion is the murder of an unborn human.

but the woman is asking for it and paying for it. If a woman paid to have someone kill her 1 year old would you exempt the woman from being held responsible?



It ends the life of what you state is a human. That is murder no matter the method.
you said it was a human too,,,
 
OK then sure,, lets charge the women too,,

Alighty then.

Next, we have to charge the father that allows the abortion to happen or the father that says they are done with the fertility clinic and for the embryos to be disposed of. And in that case it is mass murder as most couples have a dozen or more embryos created as it normally takes more than one try.
 
Alighty then.

Next, we have to charge the father that allows the abortion to happen or the father that says they are done with the fertility clinic and for the embryos to be disposed of. And in that case it is mass murder as most couples have a dozen or more embryos created as it normally takes more than one try.
how do you know the father allowed it or even knew about it??

I love when you fucking idiots go full bullshit to avoid the topic at hand,,

I guess thats better than running away like you did on the other threads,,
 
how do you know the father allowed it or even knew about it??

Good point, if they did allow it or know about it and not stop it, should they be charged?

I love when you fucking idiots go full bullshit to avoid the topic at hand,,

I am discussing the topic at hand, the murder of humans. It is your word, yet you seem hesitant to follow through with what it entails....why is that?
 
Good point, if they did allow it or know about it and not stop it, should they be charged?



I am discussing the topic at hand, the murder of humans. It is your word, yet you seem hesitant to follow through with what it entails....why is that?
that isnt the abortion noted in the OP,,

how about we focus in that since its the real problem not a few frozen embryos in a lab,,
 
that isnt the abortion noted in the OP,,

how about we focus in that since its the real problem not a few frozen embryos in a lab,,

Sure, if you want to be selective in the lives you protect, then lets just focus on abortion.

Since abortion is murder, what is the sentence you would like to see imposed on those involved? Since it is premediated, it is 1st degree murder. The average legal sentence for 1st degree murder is 20 years to life, are you good with this for everyone involved in an abortion?
 
Sure, if you want to be selective in the lives you protect, then lets just focus on abortion.

Since abortion is murder, what is the sentence you would like to see imposed on those involved? Since it is premediated, it is 1st degree murder. The average legal sentence for 1st degree murder is 20 years to life, are you good with this for everyone involved in an abortion?
how about this,, if you want to talk about frozen embryos give us some numbers and stats so we know exactly what we are talking about???

it doesnt do the topic justice if we dont understand the real impact of it like we do with abortion thats in the hundreds of thousands a yr,,

and it will also avoid talking out of our ass on things we dont know the full picture of,,
 
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Oh nonsense. No one mandates full term pregnancy. It is the natural result of unprotected copulation.
 
Frozen embryos are not the result of sexual activity. They are created in a laboratory and will never implant absent medical intervention. If left in the petri dish where they were created the embryos would certainly die on their own. Disposing of frozen embryos has nothing to do with abortion.
 
how about this,, if you want to talk about frozen embryos give us some numbers and stats so we know exactly what we are talking about???

it doesnt do the topic justice if we dont understand the real impact of it like we do with abortion thats in the hundreds of thousands a yr,,

I have moved on and am not just talking about abortion.

So, since abortion is murder...what is the sentence you would like to see imposed on those involved? Since it is premediated, it is 1st degree murder. The average legal sentence for 1st degree murder is 20 years to life, are you good with this for everyone involved in an abortion?
 
I have moved on and am not just talking about abortion.

So, since abortion is murder...what is the sentence you would like to see imposed on those involved? Since it is premediated, it is 1st degree murder. The average legal sentence for 1st degree murder is 20 years to life, are you good with this for everyone involved in an abortion?
no what youre doing is running away from the topic like you always do when your narrative fails,, this is the third one in four days for you,,
 
no what youre doing is running away from the topic like you always do when your narrative fails,, this is the third one in four days for you,,

The topic is abortion, and the fact that abortion is murderer. See, right here are your very own words....We must all realize that abortion is the murder of an unborn human being


So, one more time...since abortion is murder...what is the sentence you would like to see imposed on those involved? Since it is premediated, it is 1st degree murder. The average legal sentence for 1st degree murder is 20 years to life, are you good with this for everyone involved in an abortion?
 
does that make them less human?
Sadly, yes. They are laboratory creations. Their future is to die. In nature when an egg and supermarket join into an embryo but fails to implant it becomes an ectopic pregnancy. The future of such embryo is to die and kill the mother. It is not abortion to remove the obstruction.

You might say that life begins at implantation rather than conception. A number of birth control medications operate in just this way.
 
The topic is abortion, and the fact that abortion is murderer. See, right here are your very own words....We must all realize that abortion is the murder of an unborn human being


So, one more time...since abortion is murder...what is the sentence you would like to see imposed on those involved? Since it is premediated, it is 1st degree murder. The average legal sentence for 1st degree murder is 20 years to life, are you good with this for everyone involved in an abortion?
There should be no argument. Abortion is murder because it isn't anything else. The proper analysis is that abortion is a form of murder that has been judicially and legislatively recognized as a legal act. You see that right? It's just on paper. The act of having or giving an abortion is the same. The only thing that changes is the law.
 
There should be no argument. Abortion is murder because it isn't anything else. The proper analysis is that abortion is a form of murder that has been judicially and legislatively recognized as a legal act. You see that right? It's just on paper. The act of having or giving an abortion is the same. The only thing that changes is the law.

The only thing I would disagree on is that murder is unlawful killing of another human. Since it is not unlawful, it is not really murder.
 
The topic is abortion, and the fact that abortion is murderer. See, right here are your very own words....We must all realize that abortion is the murder of an unborn human being


So, one more time...since abortion is murder...what is the sentence you would like to see imposed on those involved? Since it is premediated, it is 1st degree murder. The average legal sentence for 1st degree murder is 20 years to life, are you good with this for everyone involved in an abortion?
its OK we all know you spun the topic because you knew you couldnt run with the big dogs on the real topic,,

now go get back on the porch with the other puppies
 
its OK we all know you spun the topic because you knew you couldnt run with the big dogs on the real topic,,

now go get back on the porch with the other puppies

The topic is abortion, and the fact that abortion is murderer. See, right here are your very own words....We must all realize that abortion is the murder of an unborn human being


So, one more time...since abortion is murder...what is the sentence you would like to see imposed on those involved? Since it is premediated, it is 1st degree murder. The average legal sentence for 1st degree murder is 20 years to life, are you good with this for everyone involved in an abortion?

Why are you scared to death to answer this simple question?
 

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