A Suppressed atrocity: The day Israel attacked the U.S.A.

[Beelzebub]

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The Hell you say?

They had a lot to gain. You clearly have not reviewed the story.

Okay, thrill me.

What does Israel get out of attacking a US communications ship when they already have their hands full fighting Egypt, Jordan and Syria?

Look, I odn't like Israel, I don't like the influence they have on our policy and I don't like what they do to the Palestinians... but this was an accident.

That would be a spoiler. And someone has dedicated a whole documentary to answer your question.
So go watch it.

In fact, at least two documentaries.

This one is older, but tells the same revealing story. I know this one has detail I am not seeing on the newer documentary (so far).

 

[Sunni Man]

It's quite obvious that the attack on the USS Liberty was an Israeli false flag operation.

Israel desperately wanted America to join in the fight against Egypt.

And the sinking of a U.S naval vessel with all hands lost by Egypt would have drawn America into the regional conflict.

Unfortunately for the Israeli's, even after repeated vicious strafing, bombing, and torpedos, the Liberty refused to sink.

Finally to the chagrin of the zionists the savage attack had to be called off.

And a subsequent cover story and apology was issued from Tel Aviv. ......

.

 

[Challenger]

I like to try and think that this was a tragic 'accident'... And prefer to leave it that way....

My sympathy goes to those who were killed and injured during the 'accident'.

The fact that the ship was attacked in international waters is of grave concern!

What's graver is the deliberate machine gunning of the life rafts; whichever way you cut it, that act is a war crime.

 

[Challenger]

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The Hell you say?

They had a lot to gain. You clearly have not reviewed the story.

Okay, thrill me.

What does Israel get out of attacking a US communications ship when they already have their hands full fighting Egypt, Jordan and Syria?

Look, I odn't like Israel, I don't like the influence they have on our policy and I don't like what they do to the Palestinians... but this was an accident.

That would be a spoiler. And someone has dedicated a whole documentary to answer your question.
So go watch it.

In fact, at least two documentaries.

This one is older, but tells the same revealing story. I know this one has detail I am not seeing on the newer documentary (so far).

That was the 2002 BBC program, apparently they have more new information now. I'll have to watch it and see.

 

[Challenger]

The U.S.S. Liberty incident was hushed up for decades by successive U.S. governments. Seems the American people might finally get the chance to discover the truth.
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It hasn't been hushed up for decades. There have been surges of publicity about the incident ever since it happened. The topic comes up every so often when a new book or article comes out about it. The Heritage Foundation published a paper about it in the early and mid 80's that was widely distributed at all the events they participated in or attended. The free publication was even handed out freely at non political events like ball games and parades. There were petitions and letter writing campaigns for investigations and Congressional Hearings.

I said it was hushed up for decades by successive U.S. governments, many people were aware of it, as you say, but the US government never came clean as to what really happened.

 

[Kondor3]

Oh, dearie me, the old USS Liberty propaganda butt-nugget again...

The source of endless hours of debating activity... an old standby and favorite... resurrected every few months... I guess it's time again...

Good luck with the Divide-and-Conquer tactics, my little Muslim fifth-columnists...

Yer gonna need it...

 

[Beelzebub]

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The Hell you say?

They had a lot to gain. You clearly have not reviewed the story.

Okay, thrill me.

What does Israel get out of attacking a US communications ship when they already have their hands full fighting Egypt, Jordan and Syria?

Look, I odn't like Israel, I don't like the influence they have on our policy and I don't like what they do to the Palestinians... but this was an accident.

That would be a spoiler. And someone has dedicated a whole documentary to answer your question.
So go watch it.

In fact, at least two documentaries.

This one is older, but tells the same revealing story. I know this one has detail I am not seeing on the newer documentary (so far).

That was the 2002 BBC program, apparently they have more new information now. I'll have to watch it and see.

Naughty!

Posting something you haven't watched.
At least that explains why there is 5 minutes of porn in the middle.

 

[Challenger]

And the funny part to base my statement is the section of this thread, it has NOTHING to do with the Palestinians or the conflict but - still here I guess its part of the conflict to demonize Israel,isn't is?

Au contraire, the 1967 War created the illegal occupation of the West bank and gaza, land grab of Syrian territory in the Golan and ongoing persecution of the Palestinian people. Zionist actions and more importantly intentions then are germane to the conflict now, dispite any feeble attempt to obfuscate or deflect attention.

 

[Challenger]

[

The Hell you say?

They had a lot to gain. You clearly have not reviewed the story.

Okay, thrill me.

What does Israel get out of attacking a US communications ship when they already have their hands full fighting Egypt, Jordan and Syria?

Look, I odn't like Israel, I don't like the influence they have on our policy and I don't like what they do to the Palestinians... but this was an accident.

That would be a spoiler. And someone has dedicated a whole documentary to answer your question.
So go watch it.

In fact, at least two documentaries.

This one is older, but tells the same revealing story. I know this one has detail I am not seeing on the newer documentary (so far).

That was the 2002 BBC program, apparently they have more new information now. I'll have to watch it and see.

Naughty!

Posting something you haven't watched.
At least that explains why there is 5 minutes of porn in the middle.

Porn, you say? Only 5 minutes- hardly worth the effort.

 

[Daniyel]

And the funny part to base my statement is the section of this thread, it has NOTHING to do with the Palestinians or the conflict but - still here I guess its part of the conflict to demonize Israel,isn't is?

Au contraire, the 1967 War created the illegal occupation of the West bank and gaza, land grab of Syrian territory in the Golan and ongoing persecution of the Palestinian people. Zionist actions and more importantly intentions then are germane to the conflict now, dispite any feeble attempt to obfuscate or deflect attention.

Which is all because of the global warming, unpleasant climate affects people's mood which caused Yasser Arafat with his uncomfortable Kafia to not been able to withstand the seriousness of the conflict and eventually spark the second Intifada and canceling all Oslo Accords achievements, makes sense.

 

[docmauser1]

The U.S.S. Liberty incident was hushed up for decades by successive U.S. governments. Seems the American people might finally get the chance to discover the truth.

Palistan-cheerleaders are the greenest in the world, garbage recycling is their forte, of course.

 

[docmauser1]

I'm not a fan of Israel or Zionism. But all the evidence was that the attack on USS Liberty was an accident, and the US Navy bears as much blame for that as the IDF.

Really?

Of course! It was a surprise post amidst the usual palistan-agitprop, coming from our honorable joeB131, indeed.

 

[docmauser1]

The dishonesty of Zionists here trying to present this as an "unfortunate mistake" and "propaganda" is sadly entirely consistent with what they do over Israeli crimes every time. But it shows they have no loyalty to American or more rightly, the individual Americans who stand up for America. Zionists regularly throw allies to the wolves, given half a chance. Because they are zealots and fundamentalists.

Drivel.

 

[docmauser1]

I like to try and think that this was a tragic 'accident'... And prefer to leave it that way....My sympathy goes to those who were killed and injured during the 'accident'. The fact that the ship was attacked in international waters is of grave concern!

cue buckets of alligator tears

 

[docmauser1]

It's quite obvious that the attack on the USS Liberty was an Israeli false flag operation. Israel desperately wanted America to join in the fight against Egypt. And the sinking of a U.S naval vessel with all hands lost by Egypt would have drawn America into the regional conflict. Unfortunately for the Israeli's, even after repeated vicious strafing, bombing, and torpedos, the Liberty refused to sink. Finally to the chagrin of the zionists the savage attack had to be called off. And a subsequent cover story and apology was issued from Tel Aviv. ...... .

Hilarious drivel.

 

[docmauser1]

What's graver is the deliberate machine gunning of the life rafts; whichever way you cut it, that act is a war crime.

Has anyone told to our honorable challenger that, lying is a sin? Lt. Painter testified under oath that, "... At this time the DC central passed the word to prepare to abandon ship. We then filed out to our life rafts which were no longer with us because they had been strafed and most of them were burned, so we knocked most of them over the side. ..." Any "deliberate" stuff?

 

[docmauser1]

I said it was hushed up for decades by successive U.S. governments, many people were aware of it, as you say, but the US government never came clean as to what really happened.

What really happened:
"Q. Will you please explain to the Court, in a narrative manner, the substance of these messagesand the applicability of these messages to USS LIBERTY?
A. LBERTY was operating pursuant to a JCS message, 011545Z June 67, which directed her to proceed to position 32North, 33East. These orders were later modified by JCS 072230Z, which specified that the operating area specified in JCS 011545Z was for guidance only and may be varied as local conditions dictate. This message also indicated "change the CPA to UAR to 20 NM and Israel 15 NM. The next message, JCS 080110Z, a Top Secret message directed USCINCEUR to change the operating area of LIBERTY such that she remained at least 100 miles off the coast of Syria, Israel and UAR, and at least 25 miles off the coast Cyprus. This message was also info to several addees including CINCUSNAVEUR, COMSIXTHFLT, and USS LIBERTY. Action on this message was directed COMSIXTHFLT.
Q. Is there any information available that LIBERTY received the JCS message 080110Z?
A. The LIBERTY did not receive that message. ..."
Testimony of Capt. Leonard Raish, Assistant Chief of Staff for Communications, Commander in Chief, U.S. Naval Forces, Europe.
US Navy Court of Inquiry (1967)
Sucks to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, indeed.
Our honorable challenger is thereby advised to choose other driveling venues.

 

[Phoenall]

Thank you for the link. They did this to blame the Egyptians right? Same with the failed attack on the Egyptian US Embassy ?

NOPE it was a mistake as the US said it had no ships in the area when it did, So Israel attacked what it believed to be an Egyptian vessel. You do know that Egypt bought the same type of ship after WW2 when they became surplus.

 

[Phoenall]

This was an incredibly sad event.

An Israeli military court of inquiry later acknowledged that their naval headquarters knew at least three hours before the attack that the odd-looking ship 13 miles off the Sinai Peninsula, sprouting more than 40 antennas capable of receiving every kind of radio transmission, was "an electromagnetic audio-surveillance ship of the U.S. Navy," a floating electronic vacuum cleaner.

The Israeli inquiry later concluded that that information had simply gotten lost, never passed along to the ground controllers who directed the air attack nor to the crews of the three Israeli torpedo boats who picked up where the air force left off, strafing the Liberty's decks with their machine guns and launching a torpedo that blew a 39-foot hole in its starboard side.

New revelations in attack on American spy ship - Chicago Tribune

Is it the first time that friendly fire has killed allies?? From what I can gather friendly fire accounts for about 10-14% of casualties in most conflicts. It is sad but true; The Liberty was most probably just another one. A boon for the Haters; a tragedy for those who lost so much.

Greg

Even your own article provides evidance that the attack was premeditated and deliberate, carried on when the ship was positively identified. "Friendly fire" (an oxymoron if ever there was one) is normally accidental and ceases when the target is identified.

At least 4 instances in Gulf War 2 when US fire killed British troops using transponders and identifying marks, and they were put down to accidents. Because of the transponders the weapons used needed to be overridden before firing at the target, so why did the US soldiers do this against standing orders ?

 

[Phoenall]

The dishonesty of Zionists here trying to present this as an "unfortunate mistake" and "propaganda" is sadly entirely consistent with what they do over Israeli crimes every time.

But it shows they have no loyalty to American or more rightly, the individual Americans who stand up for America. Zionists regularly throw allies to the wolves, given half a chance. Because they are zealots and fundamentalists.

The USA does exactly the same thing, so don't try and paint the Jews blacker than black. More US soldiers have been murdered muslims in recent years that have been killed by Israel in the last 66 years.